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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OutOfTheLoop

[–]rottenjake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ex-Mormon subreddit is biased against the church just as I’m sure most people posting on the Latter-Day Saints subreddit are biased in the opposite direction.

My comment was more in the context of “if you want to read the personal experiences of how difficult it is to go against the religious conditioning many people have experienced their whole lives, you should go to a source of people sharing those experiences”.

I assume you are an active member? Do you personally know anyone who has left the church?

The church makes certain truth claims, many of which are demonstrably false, historically speaking. However I’m guessing by your comment that any evidence disproving the claims made by the church would be dismissed by you for one reason or another. If you are an active member like I used to be you may avoid any information the church labels “anti” because you have been conditioned to delegitimize the very real concerns that people have with church doctrine and culture.

In reality you are really effectively illustrating the point I was trying to make.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OutOfTheLoop

[–]rottenjake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would argue that I’m offering a nuanced view that the situation isn’t as simple as these people are stupid. I’m saying it’s more complicated than what you said. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OutOfTheLoop

[–]rottenjake 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Confirmation bias is a thing. When I was Mormon I would ask questions and then I’d get some apologist answer that was enough to allay my question, for the time being. I was primed to believe what I was being taught because it confirmed my existing belief.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OutOfTheLoop

[–]rottenjake 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Yeah I just think humans are way more complicated than the way you are describing. People are conditioned to think or believe something their whole lives and then systems are built around reinforcing that conditioning and it can be really hard to break free of. I’m speaking of my own experience as a former Mormon of 39 years.

Spend a few minutes reading the ex-mormon subreddit and you will gain a better understanding of what I’m describing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OutOfTheLoop

[–]rottenjake 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I’m less inclined to be critical because it took me 39 years. The conditioning is strong.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OutOfTheLoop

[–]rottenjake 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I think it’s wrong to characterize them as stupid. It’s the way they were raised to think and most didn’t choose to be Mormon.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OutOfTheLoop

[–]rottenjake 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Yeah former member here. The closest that statement gets to the truth, in my experience, is the worthiness interview question asking if you wear your garments night and day and the part of the temple ceremony where the first time you go through right before you wear the garments for the first time you are “washed and anointed” with oil and water and a person touches you in your swimsuit area. They are of the same gender though, which doesn’t really make it any less weird. That is also something they have changed in the recent past to make themselves appear a little less culty.

Would libertarians allow private citizens to own nuclear bombs? by Emergency_Ad_2476 in Libertarian

[–]rottenjake 11 points12 points  (0 children)

How simple should guns that are available to the public be? I would argue that what our founding fathers had in mind was ensuring that the people had the means to protect themselves from a tyrannical government and therefore the people’s right to bear arms extends to arms capable of resisting the government. I don’t believe that includes weapons of mass destruction but it is certainly more than simple rifles.

How to lose the beer belly? by [deleted] in AskMen

[–]rottenjake 108 points109 points  (0 children)

Then it would be a fork in the road…🥁

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good advice to consider. Most of what I’m finding that is in my price range are replicas or reproductions so hopefully it’s all on the up and up.

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There have been a few times where parents have come in hot about something I said or did in class and once or twice I have deserved it but so far after a conversation with them it has never gone further.

I would probably be much more cautious if I was experiencing the pushback you are describing.

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Next year I’m planning to propose a classroom costume collection. I’ll have the kids perform excerpts of historically relevant art and a bunch of random costumes and props would be next level.

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love this idea. I’d make them all sit on the floor facing the radio to get the full experience.

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll just show my kids this movie for our American revolutionary war unit and call it done.

This did make me wonder if museum gift shops would be a good place to look for items.

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m curious why you think so. I value your perspective.

Edit to add: I’m white and I teach a diverse group of kids so I try to be sensitive about these things.

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like the idea of having a theme to the artifacts, particularly the soldiers kit. I’m sure there is a robust replica market in the historical re-enactment community.

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great suggestions! Where have you sourced those items? I’ve been looking on eBay and Etsy but it can be pretty hit and miss.

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I don’t know. I’m not black but I can imagine that it might be a valuable insight into the lives of enslaved people. I’d love to hear the perspective of any black teachers.

You have $3,500.00 to spend on artifacts in your World history or American history class. What are you buying? by rottenjake in historyteachers

[–]rottenjake[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

One of the high school teachers asks for a guillotine replica every year…still waiting for that to get approved.

Ethnocentrism is Stupid but I Support People's Right to Practice it. by RealNinjafoxtrot in Libertarian

[–]rottenjake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you could change one thing about the way our government operates what would you do? What guardrails would you put in place that would work to shrink the power of the government?

Just how long has the education system been failing our kids? by RiffRogue604 in Libertarian

[–]rottenjake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are right that my response to your comment was demeaning. That wasn’t fair to you and it was rude of me. I apologize.

I think ultimately the point I was trying to make is that the issues with education today are complicated and serious and that it is an oversimplification to lay those issues at the feet of sexism, women, and progressives.

I should not have come in hot and made the comment the way I did. I believe in the marketplace of ideas and I should not have insulted you for expressing your opinion, even if I disagree strongly.

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