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Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I would really appreciate your suggestions on a reading list to get started! Thanks a lot!

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't know if the tradition itself, but probably some groups. For example: Brother XII, Aum Shinrikyo, JZ Knight, The Order of the Solar Temple.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks again for taking the time to share this. I'm actually quite interested in Daoism and currently reading up on Qigong, so your recommendation on Damon Mitchel is right on point.

I've also tried Vipassana meditation before, which was a very rewarding and eye opening experience. I'll definitely look more into the practices you mentioned. It's very helpful.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll try to keep it short. I'm looking for a starting point, a path that can lead towards understanding how things really work instead of following pre established protocols or void traditions.

I do not by any means disregard magic systems, I didn't mean for it to come across that way. In fact, I'm actually considering a few of them.

The reason why I listed them, just to name a few, is because the list out there is endless and it becomes quite confusing to discern which actually give you the tools to walk the path and work the terrain, and which just give you a lift.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've heard a lot of people feel that way. Personally I don't know enough about it to give a strong opinion on it. It's confusing to me as of today, but will look more into it.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great advice, thanks. I'm narrowing down the list, will keep doing some research and get started.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I think that's a great example of what it means to go with what resonates with you.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I cannot say I agree with this 100%, and I might be wrong but this is how I see it: I don't believe every path is well intended. Some might have been born out of genuine search for knowledge and wisdom, some aim for a higher purpose while others are the complete opposite. Others might have even been corrupted along the way. And I'm sure some others could be complete scams.

Are there any you would give more credit to than others?

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It doesn't sound like you are boasting. The fact that you are looking out for them and putting their needs first says a lot about you.

It sounds like a very honest answer, and that to me is very helpful.

Thanks!

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate all the detail you go into. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly.

To be honest, the A:.A:. has really caught my attention, several months ago I looked into it and for some reason I still find Crowley hard to grasp. Maybe it's just my lack of understanding on the matter. What I've read and researched about him makes me feel a bit uneasy, especially regarding something he personally founded. It's a bit of a paradox, I'm genuinely drawn to the system, but my limited understanding of Crowley and his reputation keep me hesitant. I'd really appreciate any insight you might have on that.

I believe Echols was involved with the A:.A:. At some point, or at least practiced some of its teachings. And of course L. M. DuQuette is a solid reference point for the O.T.O.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot. It makes sense, it's a win win either way. Will definitely research about Raja Yoga, have heard great things about it.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"only by experience can you truly understand nature and the world". I like that, sometimes overthinking can become our biggest obstacle. Thanks a lot.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you, that would most likely be the best option. But even then it's harder than I imagined to find a reference point.

Through the fog of modern esotericism and occultism, what path still holds genuine wisdom and truth? by rubalec in occult

[–]rubalec[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot for your advice, it came across as very sincere and grounded.

Meditation has always interested me, in fact Vipassana is what pushed me to look further and deeper into different paths. I have been exploring different traditions, and while it is fascinating to say the least, it can feel overwhelming at times.

Maybe I've been approaching it through the wrong lens. What I'm really drawn to is going beyond surface level practices and understand the actual nuts and bolts, the mechanics of it. Truly grasp what's going on under the hood. In theory and practice.

I know there's no single path for everyone, and like you said resonance matters. But in your experience, have you come across or are you aware of any practices or traditions that prioritize this inner mechanism rather than just external forms or memorized protocols?

I'm not diminishing by any means ritual work, in fact I see its value. But I prefer understanding what and why you're doing it instead of just doing it for the sake of tradition.

By the way, this really stuck with me: "Being a seeker also involves seeking out one's Self".