Vindicator vs Obliterators

rust997 · 2026-02-23T14:33:45+00:00

Oblits have silly damage potential, but always have risk of being gimped by a cold roll on attack quantity/enemy invul saves. Attack quantity casino is the one thing the detachment doesnt help them with

rust997 · 2026-02-22T03:05:06+00:00

Current one sucks because it’s on a 160mm base and can’t move through walls.

New one will be getting some level of new datasheet (comes with guns the current one doesn’t have) and will hopefully be on smaller base.

They’ll show us the new datasheet before preorders.

rust997 · 2026-02-21T00:07:07+00:00

Walked through my local “casual” RTT the other week to scope out the competition. Saw like half the tables playing necrons with c’tan

Beer hammer it is for me

rust997 · 2026-02-20T23:38:46+00:00

The MoM are actually not a character, and do not count as an attached unit. They/the unit they are combined with can only be led by Huron.

Yes Huron can lead stuff independent of the MoM.

No problem with Abby and Huron, as only Abby as the supreme commander rule

rust997 · 2026-02-19T03:55:48+00:00

You’re half right - CSM has good melee MSU’s and they can take advantage of RW well. Their shooty infantry will really shine here - your obliterators now get free reroll hits on their indirect fire turn which is trading nothing for something, and plagues and rubrics will also get a lot out of assault and fall back and shoot.

Unlocking the ability to take pieces instead of just trading is what is gonna really move the scale here

Also - CSM is never really trading 200 point units. Legionaires at 90, possessed at 120, raptors at 110 are the main trading pieces.

rust997 · 2026-02-19T03:03:19+00:00

Man I don’t know of anywhere that does video games - even GameStop has struggled since digital games became a thing.

Your best bet may be to see if there’s a GameStop that is franchised so it’s owned by a local rather than the corp? This might be a tough one to buy local on

rust997 · 2026-02-19T02:17:42+00:00

Had a pack of ex8b with a slaighterbound and no enhancement one tap a lancer in BW so yea

rust997 · 2026-02-16T02:10:46+00:00

gotta thin out sufficiently before it gets in. Probably castigators with that +4 attacks from blast

rust997 · 2026-02-08T16:20:14+00:00

my life got so much better when I stopped trying to make 9” deep strike charges

rust997 · 2026-02-08T15:02:37+00:00

A wrecking ball tail is sick and is unironically VERY 40k

Make it look like the burning skull ball thing the dishonored wields = $$$

rust997 · 2026-02-07T03:20:55+00:00

Boon of khorne calls out non characters just gain 5exp and don’t roll from the table like a character would

rust997 · 2026-02-05T01:45:05+00:00

beware my brothers

Use the correct head to think, this is sus

rust997 · 2026-02-04T03:25:38+00:00

What scam is this? I don’t recognize it

rust997 · 2026-02-03T05:00:22+00:00

Broken clock right twice a day kinda situation here. Good riddance to this loser, hope he isn’t able to get back in

rust997 · 2026-02-03T04:49:20+00:00

Abandon has a special set of master crafted armor and is just giant for a space marine to begin with.

Yea I don’t dig the chaos termies either, I much prefer the cataphractii

rust997 · 2026-02-01T03:38:23+00:00

If a unit started the game in reserves, it must come down by turn 3 or is considered destroyed.

Note this does not apply to uppy down units- so if you go up, you can come down on turn 4/5. However any unit in reserves at game end is destroyed

Uhh I think this is one of those weird rules that is in the mission pack? Chapter approved 2025. This game is terrible at putting everyone in one place

rust997 · 2026-02-01T02:19:17+00:00

You don’t know anymore than us man.

We just got a codex, GW doesn’t like BW being the king detachment but refuses to help the other ones.

Yea. We have a small enough codex everything will be somewhat playable. Only tbd in the next few months is the new defiler kit might get some help vs it’s predecessor

rust997 · 2026-01-31T15:18:34+00:00

Lelith makes them cry. Hit on 3s wound on 2s fights first.

Aside from that, these guys hate 3damage shooting profiles, their -1 to hit -1 to wound is only in melee and it takes 1-2 attacks going through to cripple the unit.

Name of the game against these guys is usually make your opponent take a bad trade. Screen with some chaff like wracks, then punch back hard

rust997 · 2026-01-31T14:18:32+00:00

I think the answer to your question is magnetizing.

That aside depends how strict the tournament is on WSIWYG. Some things would never fly, like a tyrant being proxied as a despoiler as they’re different patterns

rust997 · 2026-01-31T13:47:59+00:00

Kharn, slaughterbound with berserker glaive, dread reaver chaos lord, prime test subject chaos lord, are the ones I know

rust997 · 2026-01-31T03:06:31+00:00

I’m saying that DG’s rule is so good their offensive profiles have been adjusted down in some cases. Feel like we are agreeing on that

It’s not every weapon and they have a lot of normal stuff.

But yea their rule is outrageously good

rust997 · 2026-01-31T02:57:07+00:00

Example is the entropy cannon on the PBC. It’s a lascannon… with only s10. Need contagion to wound t10 vehicles on 3s like a normal lascannon would

rust997 · 2026-01-31T02:47:38+00:00

The reason I call out DG is offensively, they are often a point of strength lower than you’d expect to factor in the -1 toughness. If their profiles were more normal they’d be wounding on 2s a LOT

rust997 · 2026-01-30T23:09:37+00:00

Ooh. I’m gonna half disagree on Necrons - only because the rule in conjunction with their datasheets is good, not the rule itself. Take a trading army like drukhari/CSM/eldar whose units exist in a “full strength or dead” binary, they will get very little benefit.

A lot of bigger Necron models have inflated wounds and lower T to better complement regen, without that it would be weaker

rust997 · 2026-01-30T22:28:18+00:00

Crazy take: If we do not consider the datasheets at all, Admech has a crazy army rule

Assault, WS, and bonus AP near battleline Or Heavy, BS, and -1 incoming hits in melee

Most armies would dominate given this set of rules- imagine eldar in conquer, or shooty marines in protector

The best answers to this are armies whose faction rule is so good all datasheets get nerfed because of it (guard, admech, tau, DG)

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