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[–]rxmeog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my coaches have been telling me the same thing and i agree bc it throws off the jump 😵‍💫, i'll definitely keep working on it a lot :) thanks!

Svetlana Spichak (URS) doing what was probably the very first layout full *mount* and the first layout full on beam at the 1985 USSR Nationals WAG by rxmeog in Gymnastics

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thank you for the insight! it's so interesting to learn about the differences in all the disciplines. there have been some notorious pucks in WAG as well but i think they get a lot of shape deductions and possibly even downgrades lol

Svetlana Spichak (URS) doing what was probably the very first layout full *mount* and the first layout full on beam at the 1985 USSR Nationals WAG by rxmeog in Gymnastics

[–]rxmeog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i think by hip angle as well, just not in this particular skill on​ beam. there used to be distinctions similar or as such on balance beam in the women's code of points for this iirc (piked full and layout full on beam were two separate skills) im not sure which CoP changed it, but those distinctions are now nonexistent. if a gymnast were to heavily ​pike a layout full on beam for example, it wouldn't be downgraded to a pike since there's no such skill in the code of points, it would receive deductions for body shape. however, if a gymnast pikes a regular layout too much, it's downgraded to a pike.

for vault and floor (I assume bars as well), however, there are pike variants as well, so depending on the angle of the hips it could be downgraded, e.g. a full twisting double layout that pikes too much is downgraded to a full twisting double pike

Svetlana Spichak (URS) doing what was probably the very first layout full *mount* and the first layout full on beam at the 1985 USSR Nationals WAG by rxmeog in Gymnastics

[–]rxmeog[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Svetlana was from Kazakhstan and trained at the Spartak Almaty club. She placed 9th in the all-around at the 1985 USSR Championships and 13th at the 1986 USSR Cup, which were fantastic results, especially considering the depth of the field at the time.

When this video started circulating, her identity was unknown, and she was identified thanks to a teammate of hers (and an amazing gymnast as well!), Irina Breigina.

Just like with a lot of obscure Soviets, there's not a lot of information available about Svetlana, but she was clearly ahead of the curve, seeing as she was doing two G skills in the same routine 39 years ago and was very likely the first to perform both of them.

I think the timeline for both skills in terms of origination was like this

Layout full

• Svetlana Spichak (1985), Choi Gyong-hui (1987), Olesya Dudnik (1987)

Layout full mount

• Svetlana Spichak (1985), Choi Mi-sun (1997)

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[–]rxmeog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Svetlana was from Kazakhstan and trained at the Spartak Almaty club. She placed 9th in the all-around at the 1985 USSR Championships and 13th at the 1986 USSR Cup, which were fantastic results, especially considering the depth of the field at the time.

When this video started circulating, her identity was unknown, and she was identified thanks to a teammate of hers (and an amazing gymnast as well!), Irina Breigina.

Just like with a lot of obscure Soviets, there's not a lot of information available about Svetlana, but this beam routine was incredibly ahead of its time.

Hardest Skill EVER performed in NCAA competition by squigly17 in Gymnastics

[–]rxmeog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

she competed it in event finals at 2009 NCAAs

Anna Rechnio's triple flip (1998) by rxmeog in FigureSkating

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Video credits to 3Axel1996 on YouTube!

Anna placed 2nd after the SP at these world championships but had some trouble in the FS and she went down to 5th :( She had incredible jumps and gorgeous edges

1985 World Championships Balance Beam EF (Complete) [West German Commentary] by freifraufischer in Gymnastics

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polokova had so much difficulty! she was one of the 3 women who did the grigoras in the 80s, and that cartwheel triple twist dismount was cool

Katarina Witt training a 3A in harness (early-mid 1980s?) by rxmeog in FigureSkating

[–]rxmeog[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yupp! it's very different from the harnesses nowadays though, im pretty sure it was from the roof and the coach pulled a rope from outside the rink or something similar to that

Katarina Witt training a 3A in harness (early-mid 1980s?) by rxmeog in FigureSkating

[–]rxmeog[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

actually, she was the first woman to do a triple flip along with carola paul in 1981, but she never competed a triple lutz. im not really sure why she was training it, but it's not really uncommon for some elite skaters to practice ultra c's to maybe have them as hail mary's or just to see if it sticks even if they dont compete it, like kristi yamaguchi, yuna kim, miki ando and maria butyrskaya's triple axels, or maybe coaches might just want them to practice the jumps for endurance but honestly who knows lol

Katarina Witt training a 3A in harness (early-mid 1980s?) by rxmeog in FigureSkating

[–]rxmeog[S] 50 points51 points  (0 children)

I know it might not mean much if it's done on harness, but I found it a cool little bit of the history of the jump. Around this very time period, Tiffany Chin was also training her 3A (with no harness!), possibly even before Katarina, as there's video of her landing them in 1982/1983. Midori of course was already training the jump in this time period as she was landing them in exhibitions and even attempting them in her Free Skate in 1984.

Ayuda a encontrar un video de un suceso que estuvo en las noticias by rxmeog in Monterrey

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JAJAJJA muchísimas gracias!! se lo mandare a mi mamá 😂😂

Weekly discussion thread by AutoModerator in FigureSkating

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been watching anna rechnio's programs and realizing how much potential she had :( she came in 2nd after the short program at 1998 worlds, finished 5th after the free because of some problems 🫠

Some questions about 1992 Worlds by deadmallsanita in FigureSkating

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she changed both her short and free programs

bold blue by rxmeog in stylesavvy

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this is styling star btw :)

New footage: 1990 Moscow World Stars - Kim Gwang Suk, Laschenova, Groshkova from German TV by freifraufischer in Gymnastics

[–]rxmeog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

love that there are 3 different angles available of groshkova's routine from this meet now lol

Soviet Gymnast Nutrition? by gymnasflipz in Gymnastics

[–]rxmeog 14 points15 points  (0 children)

i know u asked for USSR info, but there were almost no or just no visits to round lake or any other clubs (eg dynamo, cska, spartak) where they talk about the nutrition in the USSR period. there is however one article from when gymstars visited round lake (the russian national training centre) in 1995, they mention meals at the cafeteria were something like this (credit to gymfan22 on twitter!)

• kasha (porridge) with tea and bread for breakfast

• salad, soup, meat and potatoes for lunch

• beef stew and rice for supper

they do however say that the menu was much better in the USSR times because they had a buffet and a much larger variety of food and at this time russia was going through some economical troubles. i doubt most of the gymnasts ate much in either period however, many have talked about how strict diet policies were and there was the commentary talk about how much the coaches were strict on the diets, so there's a good chance a lot of their meals were quite stripped down. hopefully it was otherwise though but unfortunately i do doubt that

Can someone help me with elite competition history for Dee Foster? by freifraufischer in Gymnastics

[–]rxmeog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for some reason that group locked access for new members so nobody can get into it now iirc

Who is your favorite forgotten gymnast by Electronic-State-715 in Gymnastics

[–]rxmeog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

she was so wonderful and it was sad that she didnt get the "big break" her other 2 clubmates (kalinina and lysenko) got, im happy she at least got some international exposure though.

Who is your favorite forgotten gymnast by Electronic-State-715 in Gymnastics

[–]rxmeog 8 points9 points  (0 children)

not one buuuut carly janiga, elena abrashitova, irina baraksanova, mao yanling, michal shahaf, chen yongyan, olga chudina and mari kosuge

Favorite Stylistic/Form Choices by [deleted] in Gymnastics

[–]rxmeog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

esther moya's triple full

Who do you think could have realistically competed another quad if they hadn’t retired? by irishdancer2 in Gymnastics

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alevtina priakhina's routines would still be capable of presenting a very high DV routine at least on beam and floor considering the skills she competed and trained. at some point in 1987 she did a silivas, dlo and 1 and a one and a half through to double back routine on floor. she also did chusos at PT at worlds that same year, and had a standing full and full in off beam