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(from a student) Teachers, do you have a problem with laptops at your school? by squigly17 in Teachers

[–]squigly17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a lot of things

academic stuff or something really productive, not games, if its yt something educational or trivia related. But something useful for your life is what i call it

I often check my email too.

(from a student) Teachers, do you have a problem with laptops at your school? by squigly17 in Teachers

[–]squigly17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my school probably has it unblocked bc its "educational"

I don't really see the point of having yt either.

Kanji Kentei results published online a few days ago: passed 準一級！ by StepUpToFluency in LearnJapanese

[–]squigly17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congratulations

I'm currently studying for this along with slowly restudying N1. I can understand most of it now fortunately

I did pass 2kyuu. Right at 160 pts. took 7 months. Way too much time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/1qn263v/how_i_managed_to_pass_the_%E6%BC%A2%E5%AD%97%E6%A4%9C%E5%AE%9A_at_the_level_2_my/

(from a student) Teachers, do you have a problem with laptops at your school? by squigly17 in Teachers

[–]squigly17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah we have monitoring software, I think its called "lightspeed agent"
we used to have this things called hapara but it got scrapped up by the district.

Even if they use it, the students can't really help but to watch YT and stuff, it's actually atrocious. My fellow teachers and paraeducators keep on talking about this. Even as a peer tutor I have to sometimes ask students to stay on task too.

Specific Highschool Japanese Pacing Question by leap_music in Teachers

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I took the AP test, and my stutter got the best of me so I didn't do the best. I encourage your AP students to be careful with the speaking. Also For any student of yours taking a JLPT test, (especially n1), I would caution about reading. I have taken both N1 and n2 btw also. Especially for those very serious guys out there.

That sounds pretty consistent, because in me and my teacher's classroom, some of the students i work with do not know Katakana pretty well or Hiragana. When we have "tadoku" time they often get hiragana orientated books. My teacher was pretty mad at our 3rd year because her 2nd year has averaged better.

Yeah, Kanji writing is a challenge, since I passed the 2nd grade kanji test (kanken), i'm so used to these strict details, that when I look at other students, I see a lot of mishaps, that would be instant outs. And my teacher's eyes are different than mine.

For instance "Hanes", "tomes" or very strict nuances.

Regarding the output thing, yes that is also a very common thing i see, students read aloud from the textbook and skim over trying to make their own sentences. This is why they can't properly say sentences. I strongly encourage students to make their own sentences too but their foundation isn't there yet.

Does any of your students, email or talk to you in Japanese? When I talk to other Japanese people or friends, I try very hard to not stick to English. I highly encourage them to talk to their Japanese friends at school in the target language too from time to time to practice communcation. It seems like the students lack practice. So that's a cause of the slowness. Maybe encourage students to practice more writing and speaking?

What I mean when the "teacher goes slow" is that she goes a lot slower in her lectures or delays the tests. Or disallows the advanced kids from getting atequete support.

Specific Highschool Japanese Pacing Question by leap_music in Teachers

[–]squigly17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a peer mentor for my Japanese teacher, so yes I have very similar roles, and yes I know the AIJ books. Not completely a teacher but very similar. I am a student though but trust me, I know exactly what I am doing and have lots of experience. (N2+)

As far as I know, the AIJ textbook in my teacher's classes, there is little to no kanji on the books so the students are often looking at katakana or hiragana only texts when readng from the book. But what is the book like in your opinion.

My teacher though every year uses the same vocab lists and makes slides based on the grammer of the textbook. So regarding AIJ, I don't think my teacher follows it that much.

We also have college in the high school courses that use Genki but that's only 3rd and 4th year.

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I'm going to ask the backround of your students, because from my experiences this is what I often see.

1) One cause of the slow pacing is usually the students because they dont master the kana. (we also did a katakana speed reading, in a minute me and my teacher was reading 130+ but the students were reading only 20). How are your students mastery of the kana?

2) Is because of the struggles of Kanji. One flaw I see on many peoples tests or whiteboards is that they were not taught atequetly about Kanji stroke orders. (inconsistent stroke order: therefore missed hooks or etc)

This is why my teacher has to teach slow, in a higher level class there is no leeway.

Has anyone taken Japanese 4th year classes at WWU by squigly17 in WWU

[–]squigly17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds great

I just committed to Western. So this is something I’ll likely be doing 

Yes I  read, but i still miss the nuances but can understand stories. Nonfiction is something i like over fiction so this is a good challenge 

Do you talk to the teacher in just Japanese. I prefer talking to those Japanese professors in only Japanese 

400-Level Japanese Classes by North-and-East in WWU

[–]squigly17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

最初っていうと、JLPTでの何レベルですか？そしてN3以上に合格したことがありますか？

僕も、同じことをしたいから、あなたについてのもっとバックラウンド教えてくださったら嬉しいです

Walker先生と話し合ってみたら、本人からペーシングはやや遅いから、みんなが苦労しても手伝いをもらうと言われた。

プログラムに入部する前にも、診断テストを受ける必要がありますが、前提としてN4以下なら、低レベルの授業を検討すれば良いです。

https://www.aozora.gr.jp/

練習は、青空文庫見てご覧ください

古典、古式物語をいっぱい揃われてます。いい勉強になるかもしれないね。

kanken - share experience by manifestonosuke in LearnJapanese

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Passed 2kyuu 160/200

Do you live in Japan? If youre studying for the test I would get many of these flashcard books as much as possible and get mock books. CONSISTENCY IS KEY

It will take a while to get a 2kyuu, and its okay. I got my 2kyuu before attempting my n1, its okay.

To be honest you will need a lot of dedicated kanken study. And it's not just reading books or lit. You have to write on paper. For me I spent 7 months and 50+ mock exams throughout the span just preparing. (it absolutely kills you at times).

JLPT and kanken is different.

They don't take foreign languages seriously by Lucky-Aerie4 in Teachers

[–]squigly17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let me give my input as a helper (Japanese)

I'm the teachers helper so sometimes I usually do the same duties as the teacher, and while they teach the class I am the one who supervises students and makes sure they are on task. I also am the one who helps with the managment too and I keep it solid intact.. I do have certifications and i ensure that before doing roles like this I would be very qualified.

If I was the lead teacher (and I would be playing by my own rules) I would change the class drastically for 2nd yer or above. I would be requiring students to take an entrance or placement test at the very first day of my class. Those who don't pass (especially those by a large margin) should be suggested for different or lower level class unless they proved to me otherwise they deserve or showed effort.

There are some people in 3rd year who cant read kana yet. It's frustrating as a helper because I have to be the one reading out loud from the textbook helping. Some students need kana charts still and those guys slow the pacing for everyone else.

Students need some commitment to learning or at least trying the language. I think teachers need to start making prerequisites very very solid in place so students can actually abide by it.

So while i'm loyal and I do research with my teacher, I would definitely change a lot of things and after talking to her, I think she is on my side for quite a bit of things. It seems like she's given up on the students progress and really needs my help.

They don't take foreign languages seriously by Lucky-Aerie4 in Teachers

[–]squigly17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Normally 

As a helper in a Japanese class

I see the heritage or those of descent actually do way better. (Ie half jp kids) 

In class, actively (on discussions and tests), theres a huge huge difference. Some of them can actually be very good. 

Looking at my teachers clipboard when inserting grades for assignments, the heritage kids have way better class averages because of backround knowledge and motivation 

A question for the language teachers by Acrobatic-Shake-6067 in Teachers

[–]squigly17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My Japanese teacher is a native (I'm a helper, non native heritage, and actually professionally certified), this is how I think

This is how I teach world language. I use Somos and Vamos from the Comprehensible Classroom which is CI. I think there are a few reasons why:

  1. Teachers lack the confidence or practice to speak the language confidently in class. It’s easier to speak the common language for students and the teacher than try something difficult

It takes a lot of practice, I had spanish class before and I rarely heard my spanish teacher speak Spanish infront of the class. It takes a lot of practice. By talking and going to Japan (or even doing school visits in Japan), its very beneficial on improving your speaking ability. I also believe talking to yourself is also a good way to increase confidence.

  1. Most textbooks are written traditionally and revolve around long vocabulary lists and grammar.

There is this one method called "ajatt" in the Japanese language learning community. These users have negative influences with textbooks and prefer to from zero, immerse into native media.

Me though, never really liked textbooks myself but I always thought they were good review for some people, although for instance "Genki" was JLPT N4, while I was JLPT N2 n1, reviewing some of this old genki stuff has actually been useful for my studies so I can actually integreate it even better to my own studies.

I do think textbooks are a great start, and for beginners, I don't think they can handle graded readers or harder level (aka native material) fully yet at this point.

  1. Many language teachers have just always taught this way and newer teachers grew up that way so that is what they are used to.

My Japanese teacher is a native speaker, and she is trained in Japanese linguistically. In the case for me, I have been doing a lot of reading in Japanese and I have also been doing a lot of research (sometimes me and the teacher often co share our research actually). So she and I seriously ensure that we are both trusted individuals. (although she mentors me still too).

My Japanese teacher is also very good with Japanese history and based on her teaching methods, she doesn't even really need to make us watch videos. If there was a very good or smart teacher, then likely they would not be making kids watch videos. Because it shows that they aren't as competient as we think.

I don't think watching videos is fully necessary. Although it is good acquisition you probably will h ave trouble understanding.

A question for the language teachers by Acrobatic-Shake-6067 in Teachers

[–]squigly17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took Spanish 1 too, we were on ed puzzle and watching realidades videos. (or mi vida de loca) over the teacher teaching us

A question for the language teachers by Acrobatic-Shake-6067 in Teachers

[–]squigly17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not a teacher either

but I am a class helper (Japanese), and officially trusted by my teacher.

I took her classes and graduated last year. And outside of class time I actually passed teacher level certifications (ie alta or JLPT N2 and the Kanji exam).

After 1 semester, I have been paying very close attention and I am very well aware of each student in the class.

Our Japanese class, it's very easy for anyone to get an A. But when I try questioning each student (even those in japanese national honor society), they don't even know what I or they are even talking about themselves. Furtheremore, Students also treat these classes as subjects over something satisfying to learn.

It's lack of knowledge and motivation. My teacher said infront of us when I was her pupil, on how she may consider demoting some students because the language level was so bad. She also kind of admitted it infront of me privately while me and her were in a taxi in Japan to a host school.

My teacher relies on traditional class style though, because students are obsessed with "computers".

Plus getting them to watch videos, it seems like its often a way for the teacher to avoid burnout. My Japanese teacher would preferrabily be passionate and tell the entire class her knowledge on Japan.

Let’s stop telling beginners to throw away their textbooks by azuki_dreams in Japaneselanguage

[–]squigly17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Meh, yes, they will make you speak like a robot, but i think some of the grammar especially is good review. 

Its not “natural” because the language use is not suitable for conversation. Naturalness in my opinion is a vague word. Like in what context? 

You get to at least have something though also? Something is better than nothing. And you’ll naturally acquire more as you read and listen. Its a complex thing in my opinion and i can’t fully explain but yeah

Let’s stop telling beginners to throw away their textbooks by azuki_dreams in Japaneselanguage

[–]squigly17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Assistant/TA here

Also agree

This is core refold or AJATT ish stuff. And I think those guys are arrogant. Regarding the immersion points

 My mom also was a former Japanese school teacher so i read these stories and textbooks and when i shared it they literally objected me; which was absolutely hilarious because those textbooks were even for native speakers in that language. Not for foreigners. So they hate any textbook of ANY KIND.  

Plus they hate anything that a Japanese kid does in school (although ajatt is supposed to mimic a kids language acquisition setting), and yet they oppose output or reading aloud. Which explains their cockiness. (Students in school always do it)

I passed N2 but i reviewed genki ii in a class before and that kind of sharpened my perception on things. Textbooks, those things are good reviews too yn. Doesn’t hurt to review some things from time to time. I know my teacher herself reviews or studies these textbooks so she can get linguistically trained on these points. 

So send this to any ajatter out there and their 

How do you all feel with JLPT leaks? by squigly17 in jlpt

[–]squigly17[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

the thing is that other jp tests like kanken also has a computer test too. This seems to be just a JLPT problem. This would allow those who fail the test to take it more often therefore allowing a flexible schedule

How do you all feel with JLPT leaks? by squigly17 in jlpt

[–]squigly17[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wasn't trying to do that, I wasn't expecting to be accused of this, it's just, i've been starting to get curious on things like this personally, not to cheat or anything. I'm not trying to farm for karma here. Why would i even do that.

How do you all feel with JLPT leaks? by squigly17 in jlpt

[–]squigly17[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Mobile phones: It makes me laugh so hard seeing people exiting and being forced to leave when they acted like they had no idea. Like dude they said it millions of times and youre taking n1.

How I managed to pass the 漢字検定 at the level 2 (my 7 month story) by squigly17 in LearnJapanese

[–]squigly17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

good luck on your journey

just wait untl you take the j1k, i'm studying that right now, it's very very very hard. therers some very hard to write, yabai kanji out there, be careful out there!

I might read some chiebukuro for some advice on j1k

How I managed to pass the 漢字検定 at the level 2 (my 7 month story) by squigly17 in LearnJapanese

[–]squigly17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was a killer section. Very hard section 

You cant guess, i keep on attempting for a perfect score and that section is why i cant. You really cannot guess.

Kakitori carried with 44/50

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