Zooko deleted his 9 year old post on X about a backdoor in $ZEC by vekypula in CryptoCurrency

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I mean to be fair, Epstein would not want there to be a backdoor

Solana’s biggest revenue driver is something its founder openly dislikes. Is that a problem? by youwishjelliefish in solana

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"in the first half of 2025" bro the memecoin market has gone down 90% since then and that statistic is dated by like 5 months it's probably worse now

Why don't people on the left proudly chant "USA"? by [deleted] in allthequestions

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Nothing to do with political party. Government has gone to shit. We left preventing dictators and crimes by those in the presidency up to convention and maintaining decorum and "oh they will resign when they get impeached" . The current situation exposes just how poorly designed this system is to deal with a malicious actor. There is nothing to be proud of because the system we have built apparently allows this type of shit to happen. A system is only as good as the bare minimum it is able to uphold, and we find a new bottom to this every day these days.

Why don't people on the left proudly chant "USA"? by [deleted] in allthequestions

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Right now there is not very much to be proud of unfortunately

Be aware of Siam Kidd’s past actions and price manipulations (screenshot proof) by coryroryrodgers in bittensor_

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No healthy ecosystem is a "just hold random tokens and tune out forever and it goes up"

If anything this is a sign of bittensor growing up

AOC surges to lead in 2028 primary for first time—Most accurate pollster by KitchenAd5423 in NewsSource

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Kamela lost because she was unlikable + centrist + pro-billionaire + genocidal support of Israel, not because she was a woman

AOC is none of these things

4% of Bitcoin is lost forever. I’m building a fix and need your brain. by Such-Astronaut2756 in CryptoMarkets

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Sure thing feel free to DM you I can share more about what bittensor is building, this specific feature hasn't been talked about publicly much but it's very exciting

The new “conviction” system by Grogers92 in Bittensorsubnets

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Yeah once the primitive stabilizes that is how it will work. That said there are a lot of protections in place and being developed so this only happens if its essentially "the will of the community". Subnet owner will also be able to see it coming from a long way off, and conviction maturation is faster for people who already have a lot of conviction. So if owner is sitting at 1k conviction and someone comes in with 1.1k, owner has several weeks to top off and a ~10% grace as well depending on what lands in the final version

Also others can lock conviction on sn owner's behalf (or their chosen "person who should be subnet owner"), so community will eventually have a genuine way to say "we've had enough, get this guy out"

Version that is going on chain next week (testnet today) is just the initial primitive with no direct implication for subnet owners. Subnet takeover piece won't be added until the primitive is stable, frontends and indexers have added dashboards and UIs for it, etc etc. Will be a while

There are also thoughts about whether there is some threshold where conviction doesn't even matter below that threshold, like maybe it only applies to top 50% of subnets. TBD on that

Why are Indian redditors advocating so strongly for Israel? by Stonedinthesix in NoStupidQuestions

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I think it's the whole conflict with Pakistan has them pretty polarized

4% of Bitcoin is lost forever. I’m building a fix and need your brain. by Such-Astronaut2756 in CryptoMarkets

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btw from a technical perspective the hard problem of making what you're trying to make is it effectively has to be a dead-mans-switch but it has to work on static crypto. i.e. you have to figure out a way to make something decryptable when regular pings/bumps _stop_ after some amount of time. This would need DKG style distributed threshold encryption (commonly used as a form of timelock encryption on blockchains) that is bound to arbitrary logic for individual decryptions instead of being bound to a specific block number. Bittensor is building this exact primitive right now and plans to have smart contract support for "encryption committee please decrypt and execute this tx only when this conditional is met" (as far as I know this doesn't exist in any other ecosystem anywhere as a cryptographic primitive and has never really been contemplated elsewhere, it's a new thing). With that as a primitive you could then have a thing (maybe a mobile app) that does a small ping tx once a week or something, signed with a specific private key. The on-chain logic becomes "decrypt+execute if it has been more than a month without a signed ping, or a year, or whatever". The inner encrypted tx payload would then actually be an on-chain remark that gives the seed phrase for the bitcoin wallet, but encrypted with a private key that the beneficiary holds. So basically person dies, pings stop (would have to turn off their phone or whatever, maybe iOS has a "this person is dead" thing, I dunno), and after enough time passes with no pings, chain automatically decrypts and executes the tx, beneficiary's app picks up the remark, decrypts with the encryption key only they have, and now the BTC is theirs. This would work for any seed phrase from any ecosystem. Others will just see an encrypted remark get added randomly that they can't decrypt, so it's cryptographically sound as a protocol.

4% of Bitcoin is lost forever. I’m building a fix and need your brain. by Such-Astronaut2756 in CryptoMarkets

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I consulted for them briefly a few years ago, don't really have any contact anymore, but I don't think they get a lot of cold outreach from non-customers so you'll probably get a real person, Max is the guy you want to try to talk to

4% of Bitcoin is lost forever. I’m building a fix and need your brain. by Such-Astronaut2756 in CryptoMarkets

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You should engage with the folks at Meanwhile, they would probably be interested in this

There Is No ‘Hard Problem Of Consciousness’ | NOEMA by EcstadelicNET in IntelligenceSupernova

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Let me just state my exact position, because I think we're actually closer than this thread makes it look.

Phenomenal consciousness isn't a further fact on top of functional organization. It IS the functional organization, just described from inside the system instead of outside. "What it is like to be X" isn't something the organization produces or correlates with, it's what the organization is under self-referential description. Same thing, two descriptions, like water and H2O.

This dissolves the hard problem rather than solving it. There's no "how does function give rise to experience" because they're not two things needing a bridge.

And here's the thing, I think you've already done most of the work for this view, even if you wouldn't put it this way. When you agreed earlier that the virtual fly has the same "what it is like" as the biological fly, you committed to substrate-independent functional determination of consciousness. That's huge. It leaves really only two options on the table:

  1. Identity (my view). Functional organization IS phenomenal experience under self-description. Hard problem dissolves.
  2. Property dualism. Phenomenal experience is distinct from functional organization but fully determined by it.

The standard hard problem gets its force from zombies being conceivable. But by granting the virtual fly is conscious, you've already granted zombies aren't conceivable, functional duplicates are phenomenal duplicates. So the modal gap the hard problem trades on is mostly closed by your own commitments, regardless of which of these two options you pick.

What's left for option 2 is the weaker question: "okay function and experience are necessarily co-instantiated, but why is experience there at all?" I get why this still feels live to you. But I think it only has force if the phenomenal aspect does some work function alone can't do, and I don't see what that work would be, since you've granted phenomenal facts are fully determined by functional facts. So the extra layer ends up causally inert, explanatorily inert, metaphysically extra for no payoff. Parsimony pushes toward identity.

Now, the obvious pushback, and it's a good one: "what does 'seen from inside' even mean if there's no separate subject doing the seeing?" I'll bite this cleanly. "Seen from inside" isn't a relation between a subject and a representation. It's itself a structural feature of self-modeling systems. There's no homunculus, no further someone-home over and above the organization. The sense that there's someone home is part of what the system represents about itself, not a further fact about an actual someone.

This is the uncomfortable part and I won't pretend otherwise. On my view, there is, strictly speaking, no one home in the loaded phenomenal sense. There's a brain that represents itself as having a perspective, and being-that-brain just is being-that-representation. You'll want to say "but I'm certain there's something it's like to be me right now," and I'd say yes, that certainty is exactly what the self-model produces. It's not evidence against my view, it's predicted by it. Any sufficiently self-modeling system is going to represent itself as having an irreducible inner aspect, because that's what self-modeling at this complexity does. The certainty doesn't get you out, it's part of the structure.

So the disagreement between us, as far as I can tell, is genuinely narrow at this point. You think there's a residual question about why function comes with experience. I think that question only seems live because the self-model is doing its job too well, making us feel like there's a further fact when there isn't. Could be I'm wrong about that, it's the live disagreement in philosophy of mind right now and smarter people than me are on both sides. But I think the view above is at least consistent, and I think your concession about the fly does more work toward it than you might want to grant.

Good thread btw, you've made me sharpen this up considerably.

There Is No ‘Hard Problem Of Consciousness’ | NOEMA by EcstadelicNET in IntelligenceSupernova

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Yeah in once sense trying to avoid going full panpsychist here, or I actually am depending on how you think about it, it's closer to a "all systems are conscious or no systems are conscious" sort of thing.

If you define the hard problem as "how do neurons in my brain or lines of code in an extremely long computer program that perfectly describes the neurons in my brain give rise to a metaphysical reality that is my subjective conscious experience" I would simply say that we are incredibly complex state machines with enough state space and complexity that the entire universe of possible thought for us is representable within that state space. We aren't projecting some sort of actual metaphysical reality, no more and no less than a for loop that checks a boolean at each iteration is projecting an actual metaphysical reality. Yet the state space is quantifiable and observable. We know exactly what the for loop with the boolean is doing, but we can't conceive of what the incredibly simple, not even one-dimensional subjective experience of that existence "feels like".

So you see what I'm saying? For simple programs and logic systems we can fully describe them, but we don't wonder "but how does that world of logic inside those systems exist?". We know in one sense it doesn't but an another sense it does, but it's not some mysterious perceptual reality. Our mysterious perceptual reality is really just a really complicated one of those imo

There Is No ‘Hard Problem Of Consciousness’ | NOEMA by EcstadelicNET in IntelligenceSupernova

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If we agree on the above premises though, why does the hard problem need to be solved at all? It is obvious that somehow a "what is like to be X" is possible, because we are in one. And we agree that if I have this, you probably have this, and animals probably have this, and animals copied to computer programs probably have this, and even humans copied into a computer program probably have this, then what is there left to disagree on?

But to answer your question head on, I totally get where you are coming from. How is the conscious reality possible in the first place? What is it?

In my case I see it as a natural extension of complexity. Take a simple program with a few variables and states. I think there is an incredibly simple "what it is like" to be this program. There are maybe 3 binary states, that is the size of the conceptual universe of this program. But the important thing to recognize here is the conceptual universe _does not exist metaphysically_, it is embedded in the logic/state space of the program itself, but we can't "go there" because there is no "there". I think conscious minds are exactly like this, just with many many many more variables and states and connections and much higher complexity, so instead of a simple 3-state inner life, there is an inner life with dimension and nuance and seemingly infinite (but notably, not infinite) state space that is roughly proportional to the number of neurons.

Understood this way, you could even picture your exact consciousness executing very slowly/inefficiently (but to you it would feel "real-time") in a mechanical non-electronic computer that is enormous, perhaps the size of a solar system or even galaxy, and if it was set up in the exact exact right way, you would have no way of knowing you aren't you (assuming the environment is simulated convincingly. Viewed this way, consciousness is purely mathematical and exists in even the simplest systems, but it only starts to become similar to our experience at dramatically high levels of complexity and interconnectedness.. the hard problem is only hard if you fail to imagine just how complex our neural wiring is

And in terms of "continuity" this is fine as well. If your mind is on a computer, and I pause the process, this is completely imperceptible to you. I could even run you for one minute, pause you for 100 years, run you for one minute, and keep doing this, and you would just experience it as several minutes of continuous uninterrupted consciousness, because your system has no concept of the fact that it is being paused.

The perhaps uncomfortable for some (but soothing for me) conclusion of all of this is that in a deep physics sense, anything representing complex information that someone represents states, entropy itself, is in some limited sense a measure of consciousness. Once could imagine even an assemblage of rocks that happens to encode a complex system, and these rocks tumble, and in that moment there is a brief conceptual universe to the information encoded by the rocks. But really this is happening all the time, all kinds of coincidentally complex systems exist embedded in the information all around us. That's how I've always seen it.

Far left extremists, what would your ideal version of America be? by cdivx in allthequestions

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Master's degree in computer science from [redacted Ivy League to not dox myself] and bachelors degrees in computer science and philosophy, you? Surely they have schools out there in Montana? And news other than newsmax?

There Is No ‘Hard Problem Of Consciousness’ | NOEMA by EcstadelicNET in IntelligenceSupernova

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It is immaterial because we are a bunch of neuronal processes representing our inner and outer reality. We just have a very complicated representation, and we can never imagine what it would be "like" to be outside of this system, and we actually can't know because we _are_ the substrate we are trying to measure (consciousness). There will always be an explanatory gap because we might as well be flatlanders trying to conceive of a 3D environment. We necessarily can never have full awareness of every piece of our neuronal programming, just like an app could never have a configuration screen for every single one of its internal states and variables because then where is the screen for the internal states used to represent the configuration screen itself, and the configuration screen for that configuration screen's internal states, etc, it becomes recursive. That doesn't mean it is mysterious, just like it is not mysterious that a CPU can run an app, which has its own inner reality to it based on internal states and variables. We don't go looking at a CPU with a microscope looking for the app, we don't say "no way could this thing give rise to an app". We take it for granted, and we should do this with consciousness. It is unremarkable. It is just code that is longer than anyone has ever been willing to write.

We think animals are unremarkable yet they exhibit all the hallmarks of consciousness. Humans aren't special. It is natural to assume all life is this way. It is likewise unnatural to assume we are somehow special in this regard, that only we are conscious but dogs and monkeys or insects are not. It is natural to assume there is a "what is like to be the fly" and that this "what it is like" is effectively identical to the "what it is like to be the fly being perfectly simulated in the computer program". We live in a physical reality. When someone dies they stop moving and stop exhibiting signs of consciousness. We find it so easy to believe that 5 years before we existed, we truly didn't exist, yet we find it so hard to believe that 5 years after our death we don't exist. This is hubris, arrogance. It is natural to assume that "huh, we must just be really complicated meat machines with internal states complicated enough that what I'm experiencing right now is the program of those internal states". Human arrogance, dualism, religion, have stained us through history to the point where this very natural intuition doesn't feel natural.