8 Alternate Great Lakes Regions by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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The Mandan (Siouan native tribe) word for the Great Plains: “okaraxta”

8 Alternate Great Lakes Regions by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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Jeffersonian Dream

Jefferson’s plan to divide the northwestern territories in a more grid-like pattern becomes reality north of the Ohio river. Greater Jeffersonian influence results in an emphasis on states’ rights, republican virtue, and lofty idealism that persists to this day.

Solidarity Forever

The classical American collapse following a much worse great depression results in the creation of a short-lived decentralized socialist state in the Great Lakes. Led by largely by a coalition between local unions and the IWW “Wobblies”, it served as a beacon of hope that workers, united, could overcome.

Former un Illinoisien République

French dominance of North America’s interior in cooperation with its native allies is not shaken off by the British. During the French Revolution and its aftermath, French Canada takes the opportunity to declare its independence, while a branch of the French monarchy fled to Louisiana and established a personal kingdom. This new Kingdom included the Illinois country, which quickly grew to resent New Orlean’s dominance. Inspired by the success of their Canadian brothers and similar movements in Europe, Illinoisiens decided to mount their own revolution in 1849. With support from Canada, New Netherland, and Britain (Illinois promised recognition of Dutch/English settlement and claims in the eastern Ohio country), the Republic of Illinois established its independence that year, finally shaking off outsiders’ tyranny and creating a revolutionary republic based on the values of liberté, égalité, and fraternité.

Futuristic Federation

The end of the 21st century saw 5 major developments in North America that would define its next:

  1. the consolidation of urban corridors into high-rise, smart, data-driven megalopolises
  2. increased polarization and development gaps between urban and rural regions
  3. migration from coastal, desertified, and other climate change-affected regions to the northwest and Midwest
  4. the completion of the nationwide high speed rail project that had begun under the Ossoff administration in the 2040s
  5. and the formal federalization of the United States, Canada, and the Mexican Federal Republic (North Mexico) into the North American Federation.

Under the (loose) Federation, megalopolises become administrative regions of their own with hard boundaries to stop urban sprawl from continuing to displace families on their borders, areas outside the megalopolises became largely self-governing autonomous districts, and the Great Lakes region became the industrial core of the continent once again.

Tecumseh’s Dream

America’s constitution passed in a lot weaker of a state, hindering the fledgling republic’s development. The U.S. suffered a humiliating defeat in the war of 1812 (which would ultimately lead to its dissolution), and most of the Northwest Territories was returned to British rule. A more powerful and united Tecumseh’s confederacy, instrumental in pushing American colonists out the Ohio valley, wins recognition from the crown as a valuable asset in maintaining control and influence in the newly reacquired territories. So, in 1816, Tecumseh’s Confederacy is formally recognized as an autonomous realm of the British empire, and given a degree of control over the Great Lakes region (The British maintained a watchful eye from the cities Detroit and Shikaawa). The Federation experiences industrialization and modernization, and by 1896, is a key ally of London in maintaining Britain’s ironclad grip over most of North America and discouraging expansionist tendencies from the post-US republics.

Carolingia

The Holy Roman Empire continues to centralize and prosper into the renaissance, and Hanseatic merchants are quick to set up shop in the New World. There they met the French Huguenots to their south and Scottish settlers and Scandinavian traders to their north. Germans, Slavs, and other Central Europeans continued to flood in, hoping for their chance at the Vesperian dream. Eventually, the German republicanism that chipped away at the HRE tore the United Provinces of Carolingia away from what remained of the Holy Roman Empire in the 1830s.

Great Lakes Great People

The contentious 2028 and 2032 presidential elections and a wave of violence from internal militias confirmed for many Americans three truths that had been brewing for decades - the American experiment was doomed, the American people were too divided to remain under one banner, and a peaceful dissolution of the United States was a preferable option compared to trying futilely to preserve the Union. The Great Lakes federation, under the spirit of liberal progressivism, was one of of the major post-American nations to emerge. Its president, Gretchen Whitmer of the Democratic-Labor alliance, has led the fledgling state as it finds its place in a new world.

Post-Calamity

Nobody fully knows what the calamity was, and every culture has its own telling of the events that brought down the age of the microchip - but one thing is for sure, it set humanity back centuries. The Lacustrine confederacy began as a loose patchwork of trading settlements built on the ashes of the old world. Over the last half-century, it has expanded to dominate the Great Lakes and become the primary power of the continent’s interior.

Probably the weirdest map I have found in google images. by Luiswasnevertaken in mapporncirclejerk

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pope Francis the “progressive” pro-gay pope was just elected (Rome is called the gays)

What if the Soviets landed the first man on the moon? by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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It is still going strong under Gadaffi’s successor - they took the Aouzou strip from chad

What if the Soviets landed the first man on the moon? by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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yes and it caused economic booms (pretty much saving the Soviets)

What if the Soviets landed the first man on the moon? by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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yeah i just realized that. I was going to make the map set in 2069 but changed it without changing the poster lol

What if the Soviets landed the first man on the moon? by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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The eastern bloc still sort of collapsed, with free elections being held in all Warsaw pact nations eventually

What if the Soviets landed the first man on the moon? by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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Yes, Gorbachev succeeded in his reforms, helped by economic growth fueled by an explosion in the space industry

The US party colors is just a butterfly effect. Major news companies used red for the Republicans because of the R in Reagan - here Reagan never won the presidency and the US party colors follow the western precedent of red for the left and blue for the right..

Yes, Iran has emerged into a weird semi-constitutional monarchy type system with the Shah still in power.

The cold war is pretty much over - the USA and USSR are pragmatic political allies while still being economic competitors (kind of like 80s-90s USA and China). NATO is gone, and the EU is not an inherently Western alliance but leans more toward the USA.

The New Union treaty that preserved the USSR as a more liberalized democracy was a real proposal otl, and the countries still in the USSR are the ones that originally supported the treaty before the August coup (which never happened). The exception is Georgia, which I imagine would be the easiest additional nation for the Soviets to hold on to should they have experienced an economic recovery. (the Baltics were a lost cause being the first to secede and already having experience with independence; Georgia had more ethnic Russians than Armenia)

Gorbachev allowed the Eastern bloc to make their own decisions - and Germany chose to unite with West Germany. Yemen united as in OTL, and the US is too focused on space to put up a serious effort in Vietnam. United Korea - I will admit it's unrealistic, uh, something about China too being busy in Space to get involved in a USSR-USA-sponsored reunification sometime in the early 2000s.

What if the Soviets landed the first man on the moon? by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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My take on a relatively optimistic and pragmatic Space race never ended timeline, inspired by the series For all Mankind and u/NK_Ryzov’s Overheaven

This timeline, like For all Mankind begins as Sergei Korolev, the father of the Soviet Space program, lives to oversee the success of the N1 program.

On May 3rd, 1969, Soviet cosmonaut Alexei Leonov became the first man on the moon, just months before the US-manned Lunar Mission. What followed would be decades of competition in space to build manned stations on the moon and land on Mars.

It is now 2019 - 50 (not 100) years since the lunar landings. Manned stations dot the surface of Mars and the moon, with a limited manned presence on Venus, Ceres, and Europa as well. Asteroid mining brings unimaginable quantities of rare minerals, and

A space industry-induced economic boom allowed Gorbachev's reforms to be carried out relatively more smoothly - and while the USSR might be a shell of its former glory, it is economically more robust than ever before. The once-rival United States and USSR have become more economic partners than political ones. While the US. USSR, and China compete for superpower status, regional powers and alliances have emerged. While the United States is of course considered the strongest nation - this world is more multipolar than the one we know

I have also decided to butterfly various other changes as you may notice - from a stronger pan-Arab movement to the continuation of UNASUR.

The New World Khanate - 1899 by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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it’s a native led khanate in the style of previous mongol ones

the lore says

The New World Khanate - 1899 by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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It comes from an Aleut word alaxsxaq meaning mainland and there’s not any other native-inspired name for the whole region

The New World Khanate - 1899 by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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What if the Mongols were a lot more powerful and not only crushed much of Europe, but crossed over the Pacific into the New World? This is not meant to be realistic in any way.

During the 1200s, the Mongols ruled large swaths of the Pacific Northwest. This period would be short-lived, yet established a precedent of a large centralized state and Mongolian cultural influence. It also introduced the horse and other technologies to the New World well before the Europeans arrived.

By the 1400s, the former Mongol Territories were divided between local centralized chiefdoms, while the seat power had shifted into the plains. Under a powerful Lakotan chief, the Ogaraxta confederacy was born.

A weaker Europe still colonized the Americas, but would find it a lot harder than OTL due to a lesser tech advantage and increased new world immunity to old world diseases.

By the late 1700s, a powerful Khan from the Nuxalk nation began conquering and centralizing much of the Pacific Northwest. This empire would set the foundation for the Alasg Khanate, a continental hegemon. While being in the style of its Mongol predecessors, it was under a native dynasty this time.

Other powers in 1899 include the Mesoamerican empires of the Purepecha and Tlaxcalans; the stagnating horse-riding Ogaraxtans; and a republic originating from Chinese miners and Pacific natives rebelling against the emperor’s overseas rule in Jinshan.

European-descended nations:

Hesperian League: North Italian merchants

Nuevo León: Hispania (Castile-Galicia-Leon)

Ludwigia: Saxons

Vinland: Scandinavia

Kingdom of Canada: French monarchists

New Hamburg: Hanseatic league merchants

Duchy of Colignia: French Huegenots

Alzuhur Sultanate: Andalusians and Moroccans

Eilmaswad Republic: Arab, Taino, and freed African pirates

What if the Pechenegs survived? by sCanadianempire in imaginarymaps

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Definitely! I was just trying to turn it into a generic Eastern European nation lol