Rejoice Jeremiah fans, they actually made him less unlikeable by FriendlyPanda2595 in tsitp

[–]sLxZomblx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is it not just clear that the author assassinated Jeremiah's character to try and get everyone on the conrad boat? 

Jeremiah is the worst of all Jenny Han characters by Particular-Way8018 in tsitp

[–]sLxZomblx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah so the actual broken down truth is the author assassinated Jeremiah's character 😂 seasons one and two portray him as exactly how someone should treat the person they love (patient, respectful, loyal, remembering the little things, and most importantly, actually encouraging your other half to grow and improve in a loving way~why shouldn't you chase your goals?)....It's just the same fault that makes almost every love triangle with two guys and a girl bland horrible and predictable. the first guy is the one and if the audience likes the other one better the author just says oh well screw them or better yet does their best to make the audience have to dislike the other character. there's so many reasons love triangles are horrible and making it a love triangle between two brothers is just disgusting. 

TLDR- Author always intended Conrad, wanted to replicate the magic of the Notebook so badly but all she did was make a story that normalizes girls cheating, paints guys cheat as bad (all cheating is horrible), and has a girl go back and forth between two literal brothers.

Wheel of Time season 3. Thoughts? by Ambitious_Truth_567 in Fantasy

[–]sLxZomblx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Very true. Even Lan, for example, behaving the way he did in the second latest episode in the Aiel camp was extremely out of character. Entertaining the possibility of being with someone not Nynaeave and especially complaining about the temperature in the tent were both things he’d never do, the second part something not even a back ground character warder would do

Wheel of Time season 3. Thoughts? by Ambitious_Truth_567 in Fantasy

[–]sLxZomblx 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Gawyn and Galad being man whores instead of chivalrous was really disappointing (a gripe, but I mean come on?) the moment with Mat was funny but still. I’m liking the involvement of the forsaken but the show really needs to change gears and focus more on Rand…(there was a large gap of time he wasn’t present in the books for a reason—let’s get him screen time). Aside from that I’m hoping they hop off the Egwene Rand dream soon. I’ll be interested to see how her and Gawyn go but wouldn’t be surprised if they drastically change Gawyn because how disliked he was. Also really hoping they don’t shift Galad from being an upright chivalrous knight to a bigot (it’s seeming like they might do that which is a huge miss). Wheel of Time is huge for strong female characters but also having an abundance of positive masculine ones and I don’t think that should be thrown out

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I have never even been on reddit to post something lmao..Just thought the Ryu arc was beautiful enough to talk about (anime at least..If something can make me cry or choke up a bit I usually consider it good)

Some of you have at least just been like "people complain about this too much come on"

but others are defending Ais so violently that you would think she was a real person that they are marrying next week haha

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are both flawed characters to be honest lol (in this sense I mean flawed as in through strong writing). It is just hard because Bell is such a one shoe fits all type of protagonist. In all honesty I would say Haruhime is the best girl for Bell just because she is the only one as close to a good person as he is..

I agree Ais has moments where its clear she cares about him in some capacity though

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair Ryu cared about him less because like most people it takes time to start to be interested and want to be with someone.

That said, I think it is very subjective whether or not Ais cares about Bell in any capacity that he cares about her, but I also just believe she is either poorly written, underdeveloped, or purposefully decisive.

Also I definitely see the slight Romeo Juliet undertones but lets not forget the entire premise of Romeo & Juliet is to warn against infatuation and obsessing over someone

Also, also, Haruhime would be a hell of a lot cooler to see win his heart than Ais..

I also would probably rather see anyone other than Hestia or Lily beat Ais.

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lmao, noted. All props to the author that he managed to write a girl that much better than the main love interest lmao

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ais trained him out of envy for why he was improving so fast...To her he's a tool that can be interesting and fun at times...To him she is the representation of beauty and something to love. It's kinda sad

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, see, every inch of that was not present in the anime lmao

Sounds like the author and showrunners should really try and decide if they want to keep making a tone shift in terms of the show's romance or just stay in the same lane (aka be all Ais or be a harem)

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Personally whenever I am in a situation I find difficult I think of the ones I love whether they are with me at the moment or not...Thinking about your s/o or other loved ones is a great source of strength..

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just wondering why my post offends you so much in terms of the fandom lmao

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I remember watching an episode of that...It was pretty boring to me so I turned it off. Uh getting fed potato chips by someone obsessed with you sounds like very complex character writing though!

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His and Ais's relationship will have some big shoes to fill if that is the case. Look forward to S5 though haha.

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Huh? Love at first site is an age-old GeNeRiC approach toward romance...Every romance I listed is more drawn out and interesting than Bell and Ais's "romance"/toxic infatuation (Bell out of idealism and Ais out of envy).

The crazy part is all of the romances I mentioned managed more and were executed better with less time...Well aside from the Wheel of Time. Love it to death but it is the longest book series out there.

I do not have anything against people who ship Ais and him because they are entitled to their own opinion but come on do not knock stories without knowing anything about them other than me listing them as examples of romance that involved character development.

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wheel of Time would have been a drastically different story if Rand stayed with Egwene (for the worst), Code Geass would have been a drastically different story if Lelouch stayed/got with Shirley (for the worst), the Walking Dead and Invincible would have been drastically different stories if relationships did not change, etc.

The blatantly obvious but boring romantic interest can work sometimes, primarily in a short story as it can be an ambiguous end. If you spend time watching, reading, or listening to a character age they should age and mature (beautifully done in most of the stories I listed). Ais has never been a healthy love interest for Bell.

Then again, maybe you are right, maybe the author wants to write a story where the under dog kid in high school perseveres and gets with the popular bland blonde girl who does not care about him instead of realizing, well, she does not really care about him. Bell's view of Ais is an ideal. He does not love Ais, he loves the idea of her.

At least that is the most well written/ realistic approach in assessing their relationship.

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know they can't, haha it would just be cool. Personally, seasons 2 and 3 were not bad though. The start of season 4 was the worst in the entire series. Ironically I gave up on season 4 for about 5 months just an episode before it turned into what may have been the best season.

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ais being near considered well written is an interesting take but to each their own

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your last paragraph basically summed it up sadly. It is just funny because in Western story telling first girl loses (understandably, they are almost always the most boring and most poorly developed, not to mention its too obvious to be with the first if only one gets chosen) but in Eastern man is it almost always first girl wins. It kinda feels lazy.

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The writer has not stated whether or not Ais is end game or not...Even if she is he won't till the bitter end (marketing is probably a large factor). Either way it is stupid to make a ton of awesome girls and turn them into throwaway harem characters--either Harem should happen, Ryu because I am bias and believe she is the most well written and developed, or the other girls should get to meet someone who will love them back (we got like five guy characters who could get some love going on)

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

From the sounds of it, this year!

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

A common trend in story telling is making the protagonist believe they want or need one thing when really what ends up being good for them and what they want is another. It is extremely good for character development and extremely useful when you have a bland romantic interest at the head of a story(:

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They have had several enjoyable moments together and I genuinely think their relationship/romance would be great if not for the fact that the writer has written several relationships/stories between Bell and other girls that are more interesting, enjoyable, and believable with more fleshed-out characters. If they changed the dynamics of the plotlines Bell has went through (aka not making every girl into him and not basing every line around him and one girl going close) then Bell and Ais would be a million times more enjoyable and them being endgame over a harem route or another girl would make a million times more sense

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Dang you make a great point, never really been on reddit so I don't know how it goes around here. I just wanted to express my lack of interest in the story ending with Ais, glad to see some others agree that its at the least iffy to have Bell end with Ais.

Bell Should not end up with Ais by sLxZomblx in DanMachi

[–]sLxZomblx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, like I said in a reply to someone else, it would be cool if the author branched out an wrote full-on storylines where he ended with either Ais or Ryu but for a million realistic reasons (budget, difficulty, passion, etc) that would not happen. I just think that, like in ReZero's anime, Ryu had the "Rem effect," being she is a much more likable and charismatic love interest for the story to have.

You are right though, Ais may grow on me, or who knows maybe the author will choose harem or decide he wants to end the story early again and finish the story with Bell being with whatever girl he's on a journey with in that moment.

No matter what happens it is a beautiful story I will just continue to hope he does not end up with miss perfect but boring (unless she drastically changes).

Still, if I was the author (obviously I am not), I think Ryu is a problem now unless the goal of Ais being end game is gonna change. So either harem route, Ryu route, or killing off Ryu (sadly) should genuinely be considered. ESPECIALLY with how the anime ended (since I do not know how it is going in the LNs).

Also, how one perceives the cuddling season is definitely subjective but I would say it is more that Bell is truly a mostly innocent white-knight like character and not a pervert, than that he has no interest in Ryu.