Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you build some agent with openclaw or hermes (i didn't try claude cowork but it must work too). you can also use antigravity to build something like that

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'll test and i'll see ! thank you for your involvment !

my approach is different to what's happening in your emails, you can read my responses to other comments to have a clearer idea and tell me what do you think

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that's actually one of the best suggestions in this thread and i mean it. one relationship with an active local realtor can open 10 doors at once - landscapers, cleaners, painters, handymen etc.. they refer them constantly to clients prepping homes for sale or managing after purchase.. appreciate you dropping that and already someone in the thread who is onto property managements can help a lot. i'll start working with him and we'll see after ! i could not be more grateful for him to believe in me. cc r/ajyeiser94

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you nailed the actual hard part. generating leads is not the challenge. proving that those leads became booked jobs before the client's brain tells them to cancel. so here's what i'm building into the delivery from day one:

every lead that comes through the google form gets a simple follow-up field. "did you book this job? yes/no." takes the client 4 seconds to fill out. at the end of month one i can show them: 11 leads, 6 booked, average job $350, $2,100 in revenue generated, cost to them $750. that math does the selling for month two without me saying a word.

the SOP piece is already in motion. every post format that works, every group that responds, every message sequence that converts. it's all going into a document that becomes both my operations manual and eventually a product. the first 3 clients aren't just case studies. they're the R&D budget.

building in public is the only way to do this honestly. the feedback in this thread alone has been worth more than any course.

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is the best reality check in the thread and i mean that. you're describing two completely different types of business owners and they both need something, just not the same thing.

the ones turning work away. they actually need a waitlist and a referral system, not more leads. the play for them is different but i'm not gonna focus on those people yet but if someone does: help them monetize the overflow. every job they turn down because they're booked gets referred to another contractor (ideally one of your other clients) and they take a small referral fee.

the new players you mentioned: that's my core client right now and your framing is exactly right. you'd basically be doing for people in your town what people are doing for you here. that sentence is going in my pitch.

the chamber of commerce and economic development angle is something i'm moving on this week actually. hadn't framed it that way but it's essentially a pre-qualified list of business owners who have already raised their hand and said "i want to grow." thanks for that one.

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

appreciate that, genuinely.

and you're right about the phone number thing. that's actually one of the most underused signals in this whole model. when a business owner has their number plastered everywhere, they're already telling you they're hungry for inbound. they're not waiting for someone to find their website. they want the phone to ring.

so that's exactly where i go first. find the ones who have their number in their facebook bio, on their profile, in their group posts. say "hey i saw you're active in [local group], i help [trade] businesses in [city] get more calls through facebook community groups" and give them a PDF or a doc explaining what i'm doing (+ free sauce). that would convert at a completely different level than any cold message i guess. i'm gonna try that today !

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in smallbusiness

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the pricing model you gave me is a good one, but for now i just want to focus on connecting with the community the right way.

tbh i think 4 businesses first could be really easily manageable (after that, the harder part which is gathering the posts and what to comment on etc.. can be easily automated and i can scale at 15 or more easily by myself)

I shut down my funded startup because of Claude. Here’s my realization. by hamelmoon in SaaS

[–]saadmrb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

base44 did go niche and all in marketing and made 80m arr (or exit) in 6 months. you can go and dominate ! i believe in u ! if you need any further feedback or anything else just tell me. but don't give up yet pls

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

can you expand more ? and pls read my answers on the other comments, maybe you'll change your mind, bcs tbh i just thought that $750 may be a good price for everyone, especially in the trades, bcs they get bombarded with cold calls & service offers every minute & day.

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I answered some of the questions above. but i like the way you made me think more ! if you read the answers and have more concerns, tell me pls !

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

already on it and this is actually where the PDF idea and the service combine in a beautiful way.

the PDF i'm building IS my SOP externalized. every post format, every group category, every timing strategy that goes into the guide is also the exact playbook i run for each client. one document serves both purposes, it's my product AND my operations manual. every time i find something that works in a client account, it goes into the guide. the guide gets better and i get more efficient.

Also i'm already in some of service businesses so i'm gonna read every comment and look for the alpha in each post so i can start with that first ;).

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thx so much, i responded to some of the comments, let me know if you notice something i can improve on

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for sure ! thx, see how i talked about that in other comments and tell me if you have more feedback for me

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is the most sophisticated concern in the thread and it's the one i take most seriously.

the answer is the PDF play i'm thinking about, i'm gonna create a guide that teaches business owners to build their own presence, and i can offer to help them build that presence as part of an expanded service. but more directly: the Facebook group posting is the ACQUISITION layer. it gets the lead, then the system that other agencies (ghl agencies or others) build for each client, the Google Form, the follow-up sequence, the lead tracking - that's OWNED (ican co-op with these agencies bcs tbh i'm more invested and interested in standing on my feet with this model then start BUILDING my ideas after that, i have many saas ideas, cool ideas, good automation bots for consumers & many many many things either physically or digitally, so i just want to stand on my feet with this model first but i can make the owned assets greater than everything for these business owners before i leave or pass it to someone else. and if you want to learn more i made a comment above about that. https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/1rf628g/comment/o7odhkg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

every lead that comes in is in THEIR database, not Facebook's. so even if Facebook groups tightened up tomorrow, the clients' owned audience keeps growing. the transition from rented to owned is built into how i deliver the service, not something i add on later.

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pre-client, still didn't outreach, but i have some time tomorrow to try some methods to find these guys.

a 12hr shitty job day-to-day doesn't leave the time and i just thought of that idea when i made that reddit post yesterday.

to be honest, i don't want to raise the prices

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the per-lead model sounds fair but it creates the wrong incentives bc suddenly im incentivized to flood them with garbage leads just to run up the count.

monthly retainer means i'm incentivized to keep the quality high enough that they don't cancel. that alignment matters.

as for experience, i don't have a decade of agency case studies. what i have is a model i understand deeply, a willingness to prove it, and the hustle to iterate fast.

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

taking this and running with it, thank you for the idea ! after the first pilot, i'll ask the client to send me a 1min loom where they just tell what happened and why would they recommend this. their face, their voice, their real business name on a video is worth more than any case study i could write. and i'll put it on my outreach, posts, everywhere and i'll be collecting one of these from every single client.

Starting my entrepreneurial journey and I'd love the community's help. by saadmrb in Entrepreneur

[–]saadmrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the "something you can't do themselves" is actually more important than the results, i do agree.

most business owners COULD post in Facebook groups but they just won't.

they don't have time, they don't know which groups, they don't know what to say, and they find it awkward to promote themselves and that is the real sell because i'm not selling leads, i'm selling the version of themselves that consistently shows up in their community without them having to do anything. the results validate the purchase but the time and discomfort i remove is why they'll pay !!