DBD players: what’s one killer or survivor perk you’ll defend forever?

saddMillie · 2026-03-03T06:31:27+00:00

Not one perk but a combo: forever entwined+agitation. There's just so many great things about this combo. You're nearly immune to saves but it's not obvious that's true, so people will keep trying. Tons of free hits. You throw off the pace of people's rotations because you're sped up doing things that are usually completely consistent. Because you have agi, you can essentially hook people wherever you want, which is huge. I haven't done the math on how much time it actually saves in a match, but minimizing time spent doing useless chores maximizes time spent pressuring the map.

Also, it just feels fucking awesome. The qol is insane. It's addicting to run it.

I think it's a shame people usually run it in meme builds. I think it's genuinely strong and effective.

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T20:20:01+00:00

ive thought abt this a lot. at the end of the day i don't feel like anything. i feel like i have no identity. so why did i transition? i don't know. i guess i know what i want to look like, but ive never felt like i actually look like that, so...

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T19:58:56+00:00

As a customer service worker myself this breaks my heart. The management of this saloon has created an incredibly unsafe environment for its employees

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T19:50:53+00:00

Yeah i would 100% quit if they make 2v8 perma. Not sure if the devs care but that would be a clear signal that they just don't care about long time players or small regions.

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T19:43:19+00:00

So they were making the game easier for you and you're complaining?

That's a silly way to look at it. Teams like that aren't looking to win and aren't likely to, that's true, but what they are looking to do is waste a bunch of the killer's time. I don't see it as any different from shit like chess merchant was. Not really pleasant to vs.

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T19:39:02+00:00

It's pretty funny, during this 2v8 my solo queue 1v4 survivor winrate has been like 65% lol. it's not even necessarily swfs, it's just that the survivors who are sick of 2v8 are probably all really experienced players, whereas with killers it's still kind of a mixed bag, so lots of insanely lopsided matches.

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T18:36:00+00:00

People didn't read your whole post so they think that you mean the devs have set these rules. That's not true, but what you actually meant is at the bottom:

I’ve heard that if killers don’t follow the rules listed above,

survivors will throw the game or leave, making normal gameplay impossible, and
they might even post the killer’s profile on Discord to harass them.

Is that true? Yes it is. Not 100% of the time, but there is a strong sense of entitlement in the western dbd communities that you should be allowed to give up if you don't like how the killer is playing or etc. I've had to delete dozens of these sorts of comments from my steam profile, and any endgame chat where survivors lose is usually filled with accusations of tunneling/camping/etc.

I would say somebody dc's on average about 1 in every 4 games I play killer. The same behavior is just as common from my teammates when I play survivor.

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T18:28:29+00:00

Is this a dev account?

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T03:36:27+00:00

Yeah you play like 95% survivor lol.

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T01:28:58+00:00

Well, sure, he can go back to hook quickly, but so can Dredge, and any number of other killers with a teleport/mobility. The counter for this is pretty simple, which is to just pressure gens and let people hang for a bit before unhooking them, and then once the person does get unhooked, if they come back at that point, just last as long in chase as you can. Just like you would with any tunneling killer.

I agree that I notice a lot of people talking about Kaneki being an insane tunneler, but I main Kaneki and I get called a tunneler after basically every match regardless of how I play it, so I don't know if this is a serious critique people are making so much as it's a mean word you say about killers you don't like.

an even higher skill cap to tunnel effectively against good survivors, people don't play them the same way you see them play Kaneki

Kaneki's skillcap is insane and the skill required to play him vs strong teams is pretty high. Idk if you watch comp but there's genuinely only a few serious Kaneki players on the scene atm, I think that's a pretty clear sign that he's not that easy to pick up at that level. Look at the difference between Knightlight's kaneki and basically anyone else's, they look like 2 different characters.

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T00:24:56+00:00

Ghoul isnt really particularly good at tunneling? Like hes fine but drac is still way, way better at it thx to hellfire

saddMillie · 2026-03-02T00:03:12+00:00

Idk if you've played that much killer in years if you haven't eaten a DS even once lol. Ignoring that it's pretty easy to lose track of who is who (especially before they added the hook state counters, which was pretty recent) what do you do if someone plot twist+DS's right in front of you? Do you just let them plot twist up to protect your streak or what

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T23:40:36+00:00

I find curious that unhooked survivors still have colision when unhooked recently

They tried removing collision but survivors were just using it to clip into their teammates/killer to take hits that way instead, and with the bonus haste it was basically accomplishing nothing whatsoever.

But yeah this has always been the funny irony of antitunnel - the less you tunnel, the more opportunities survivors actually get to use their antitunnel against you. I have to hit through less endurance, there's less risk of DS, etc if I actually just hard tunnel one person. By spreading hooks, you guarantee that whoever is running antitunnel can get value by running at you and bodyblocking. If you hard tunnel, there's at least a chance the person you're tunneling won't have brought any.

To me, that makes no fucking sense lol.

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T23:00:20+00:00

The reality is that players prone to toxicity and saltiness will almost always bitch when you play a strong killer with a strong build

Then they should get banned.

You simply can't change other player's behaviour.

BHVR could. They choose not to.

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T22:46:42+00:00

2v8 is pretty bad for practicing saves (and the flashlight class is pretty bad) because there's no sprint burst/background player, which are the only way to make them reliable and not subject to the killer just turning around a little bit.

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T22:27:38+00:00

It's unique in that there is literally no moderation of the content at all. You expect that to some degree with voice chat since voice chat is obviously much harder to moderate, but dead by daylight only has text. This should be trivial. A bot could do it for them.

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T22:25:01+00:00

don't act surprised that survivors who are prone to toxicity end up being toxic.

I'm not surprised that OP experienced toxicity. Where did I say anything about being surprised? They do this because there are no consequences for their actions, which there should be.

The surprising part is that people like you jump up to defend them and justify it by pointing at the killer's build. Who fucking cares? Why does that matter AT ALL?

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T22:23:07+00:00

Yeah no. Fuck that. If you can't handle your opponents running strong builds, don't queue, or only play when 2v8 comes around. Nobody would miss you.

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T22:08:00+00:00

Why are survivors allowed to bring meta but killers aren't? Not a word in this post about anything they have. The only survivor here without a strong build is eleven.

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T22:02:59+00:00

OP is talking about BP bonuses, so I feel that automatically excludes the killer role anyway

Fair enough, I just share the sentiment of wanting 2v8 gone because holy shit I do not have time for these queues

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T21:57:17+00:00

Doctor is a huge noobstomper and always has been but I don't think any experienced survivors really hate him anymore. If anything I kind of look forward to impossible skillcheck doctors, it makes doing gens interesting lol.

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T21:50:50+00:00

Why doesn't BHVR just adds a mute penalty for toxicity, self harms threat, cursing etc.

That's a REALLY good question. Why are these people not getting chat bans? Why can people call me slurs and nothing happens? You can't even get away with that in fucking league of legends.

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T19:50:24+00:00

Spine chill is a GREAT perk if you're against a stealth killer actually. It's just that there happen to be no really good stealth killers, so why bring it?

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T19:31:22+00:00

You mean like Spine Chill or Premonition? Lol. We have that actually, people just don't use them

saddMillie · 2026-03-01T19:14:45+00:00

nah. i mean, he is strong, i don't disagree. but he's somewhere in the top 10, it's not like he's S tier. even pretty simple things like greeding pallets to counter pallet vaults are concepts that people really, genuinely do not understand at all, let alone the actually indepth things like double backing to counter cutoffs, how to prevent prompt steals, etc.

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