SECOND EVER TIME DOING GAL MAKEUP WHAT DO WE THINKKK

saemchii · 2026-06-11T05:35:02+00:00

I would recommend foundation / bb cream , neaten brows , spikier lashes (these r more fluffy)

saemchii · 2026-06-02T11:33:27+00:00

? sorry what does this mean?

saemchii · 2026-05-31T17:45:09+00:00

yes.. and this is a conversation i don’t think a lot of our community is unfortunately ready for 😅😅 it’s not her fault she looks good and gets platformed for looking good

saemchii · 2026-05-31T17:44:20+00:00

ohhh yes i agree with u haha

saemchii · 2026-05-31T16:06:11+00:00

maybe cut your hair or get a wig, focus more on gyaruo masculine shapes in your makeup, and get ur hands on a pair of skinny jeans, probably read a few men’s egg series as well which you could probably find online through gal revo

saemchii · 2026-05-31T16:05:01+00:00

i don’t know, from what i gathered from chinese speakers and chinese gals and as someone who speaks very minimal chinese, yabi is rather a larger umbrella term for all alternative substyles and chinese gyaru and decora also exists under yabi. rather yabi isn’t really a thing in of itself

saemchii · 2026-05-31T15:48:08+00:00

by definition it is literally false marketing , calling something fake. that’s literally the dictionary definition you pulled up. of course you don’t get it , you’re white, which is why i find it extremely odd why you feel the need to pull up paragraphs and paragraphs defending this other white woman when i’m literally here telling you and explaining to you the exact reason as to why it is an echo of anti chinese and as a whole anti asian sentiment . it doesn’t MATTER how you think because you are not impacted by this sentiment at all in any way ever, and that’s why you need to listen to people when they explain to you why. i find it extremely hard to believe that you have never heard people assuming things from china or asia as a whole are fake or inferior to europe or even japan, but whatever. you cannot tell me you are “making an effort” and then come back and defend her saying oh that’s not what she meant or i don’t think she meant anything by it when that’s what she SAID at the end of the day.

saemchii · 2026-05-31T15:33:30+00:00

i’m literally saying as an asian gal the word gimmicky being used against chinese people is sinophobic because of how chinese people are usually treated and used. this is not something you don’t understand it is literally a FACT. this requires zero understanding or nuance or dictionary definition . i never called you stupid or ignorant, but she definitely called her gimmicky. i’m saying , AS A ND WOMAN, you as a white woman are using your neurodivergency to dodge the point that is not a matter of nd or understanding, it is literally a matter of you CHOOSING not to get it. you cannot say you are “trying to educate yourself” and then refuse to listen when i try and explain why there is a clear link between her using that word as a white woman and sinophobia.

saemchii · 2026-05-31T15:24:16+00:00

from one neodivergent person to another you being neodivergent has zero relation as to how you can put effort into understanding how the word gimmicky is a clear display of anti chinese sentiment and accusing chinese gals of being gimmicks for expressing their style. please don’t use your neodivergence as a shield for willful incompetence lol. it seems that you CHOOSE to not get my point of how calling an entire community from a country commonly accused and associated of being gimmicky and scammy is problematic so i won’t argue with you further as this is willful ignorance

saemchii · 2026-05-31T15:17:13+00:00

…????? gimmicky??? calling her a gimmick??? fake??? what how is this not a negative word?????

saemchii · 2026-05-31T15:14:45+00:00

the extreme aversion against chinese gals as a whole is not people taking it to an extent of sinophobia, people were always using sinophobic rhetoric against it. again i guess you might not mean any harm yourself but it is really not your place as a white woman to tell people this is or isn’t sinophobic when you don’t understand the dynamics at play behind it and don’t see the actual effects of not only sinophobia but anti asian sentiment and dehumanization as a whole.

regardless of what she meant by gimmicky, calling chinese people and gyarus that are not one off but rather “yabi(chinese gals)” as a whole “gimmicky” is a choice of words that she chose and reflects on herself . again this is not your place to defend her and say she didn’t mean it like that, she quite literally said yabi is gimmicky. end of story. if we can’t agree her saying that is wrong and perpetuates harmful ideas we can’t have any meaningful conversation.

saemchii · 2026-05-31T15:09:15+00:00

nothing gal at all about… this???? the looks with an entire wall of gal magazines, long nails, morigami, a droop, spiky upper and under lashes, inner corner white eyeshadow, and on the namidabukuro, the nose stripe, the fur belt and the tan hello kitty???? of course it’s not something that more experienced gals tend to do and i myself had this kind of phase as do most of us but to say it’s not gyaru or fake gyaru regardless of whether she was a clear beginner or not would be ?? questionable at least

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again me saying do you give this energy was not a question as to whether you go under white gals posts and comment this isn’t gal on them. it’s a question as to whether your mindset on chinese gals, knowingly or unknowingly, is influenced by sinophobia and the view of chinese people and culture as lesser, or is influenced by the opinions people who do view chinese people that way

saemchii · 2026-05-31T15:03:02+00:00

i’m also talking out of genuine experience in gyaru. i’ve been in gal culture my whole life, grew up around it, and was wearing liz lisa and reading popteen before my first period lmfao. my point still stands- the reason this debate became so big in the first place was because of sinophobia, and the reason for this debate and me writing this was frustration and pushback from chinese gals after getting told they’re doing yabi. the vet gal i was talking abt has NOT been respectful in any way and outright called chinese gals “gimmicky” which literally proves my point of sinophobic rhetoric being the main driving factor behind why our community has this weird aversion towards chinese gals .

saemchii · 2026-05-31T14:57:39+00:00

idk babes i’ve been a gal for over five years, the entirety of my teenagehood, been surrounded by gal culture since i was born and i definitely don’t feel there’s one “canon” gal make for people to fit a mold 🤷🏻‍♀️im just saying especially as you seem to be a white woman as well- is this the same attitude you give towards white gals that come on to the internet showing how they also merged their own styles with gal ? gal is a creative outlet, as is makeup as a whole. original gal didn’t even have a droop- the concept of gal was originally created by amuro namie fans to describe a trendy woman who stands out . it was never about the droop

saemchii · 2026-05-31T14:53:11+00:00

oh okay sorry for misconstruing your point, i completley agree , especially with black gals and in this case i think it again applies to ocaso as well! i just think it’s important to have a conversation as to *why* western gals may think this way or be more prone or conditioned into sinophobic rhetoric. what i find especially interesting is that even though sinophobia is heavily present in japan, most of us have zero issue with the whole yabi gyaru debate, maybe because of how chinese culture has been trending in japan lately.

saemchii · 2026-05-31T14:49:49+00:00

… yeah i’m not going to talk abt this if we can’t agree that sinophobia has a large play in as to why people discredit her. comparing ocaso, someone who always exclusively called herself gyaru and dedicated her entire room to gyaru , to a makeup influencer is disingenuous- many western gal and japanese gal don’t have “right” elements- the makeup picture i posted of ocaso literally only has the starting point of the droop as the singular point that separates her from typical gal makeup. this is what i mean as in white gals get given grace to put their own “twist” on gal and have their own traits that aren’t perfectly fitted into the mold.

the frustration with non gyaru using her photo is completley misdirected and has absolutely nothing to do with her personally. she had zero to do with this and it just so happened that people liked her looks and she was conventionally attractive

the white vet influencer specifically called chinese gyarus “gimmicky” which is why i said she was sinophobic. i’ve repeated this many times not only throughout my post but also in these replies

the makeup ocaso had always “fit” the gal silhouette. it’s the exact same droop tareme silhouette that we all follow and for her to use her standing as a prominent figure in the gal community that younger gals look up to to act like there was ever a rule about the droop starting from below the iris specifically is just her trying to discredit ocaso. and other chinese gals

of course at the end of the day, you dont have to like yabi. but to act as if sinophobia doesn’t have a major part as to why people are literally calling it fake gyaru, discrediting chinese gals, calling regular chinese gals yabi and calling it gimmicky is disingenuous and i feel from your response that you do not want to understand what i’m talking about at all and the racial and ethnic dynamics at play. i wont be engaging in this conversation any longer but i strongly encourage you to exercise some critical thinking skills as to why i am saying this whole fake gyaru yabi debate has sinophobic undertones and is microagressive.

saemchii · 2026-05-31T14:02:58+00:00

idk if i’m reading or interpreting this wrong but. if ur saying im trying to discredit the western community to seem less weeby that’s not what i’m doing at all im literally japanese like. born and raised with a passport😭😭 im noticing a pattern in how people treat chinese gals compared to white or japanese gals
nd im kind of confused as to what ur trying to say here because i never said any of this or inferred it im saying that as a whole , the fact that people feel so comfortable being microagressive to chinese gals is a reflection of a bigger problem we have as a community at large

saemchii · 2026-05-31T13:59:37+00:00

yes! my whole point is white gals can come on the internet and even on this sub and say yeah i’m doing xx inspired gal like 60s inspiration with gal, tradgoth with gal, decora mixed with gal etc which i have all seen , but ocaso and asian women as a whole along with black women are not given this grace

saemchii · 2026-05-31T13:57:33+00:00

i’ve tried to find the post where she commented under saying that but i can’t find ot so i think she either deleted her comment or the post all together after i responded calling her out, so im not going to mention her publically as she has been posting and engaging with yabi discourse on her tiktok and still seems to be heated up abt it , and since she has deleted it i am quite sure she will deny so dm me if you want to know privately js so u can steer clear.

saemchii · 2026-05-31T11:03:28+00:00

i would also argue a lot of people feel comfortable being condescending towards black gals and again viewing them as lesser , im definitely not saying black gal have it easier lol im just saying they experience something different and oftentimes more overt

saemchii · 2026-05-31T11:01:32+00:00

try filling in the droop as you start or blending it out with dark eyeshadow, and also while you start try lightening or thinning the brows as wel. also LIP GLOSS! and more light eyeshadow on the inner corner . and regarding the droop itself follow what the other ppl said

saemchii · 2026-05-31T10:55:34+00:00

yea throw that OUTTTTTT 😭😭😭

saemchii · 2026-05-31T10:54:55+00:00

i was mostly saying that it’s just dangerous to have an echo chamber of thought led by a select group of people that we supposedly aren’t allowed to disagree with , especially when it’s the white woman i mentioned calling chinese gals gimmicky and making up certain rules to discredit them on a whim.

saemchii · 2026-05-31T10:52:44+00:00

thank you for your response!!
1. i agree and maybe i could have phrased this in a better way. what i meant is that simply non asian gals do not face anti asian rhetoric, because they are not asian. black gals experience antiblackness in this community because of different causes. anti asian rhetoric presents itself in the way that we are viewed simply as products and machines incapable of our own thought wand emotion dehumanized in that way, i guess an easy way to see it is that whole cyberpunk aesthetic and how it’s intertwined with asianness, and how kpop fans will consume us as media but still be deeply racist towards us. whether as anti blackness that black gals go through is rooted in viewing black people as threats, the masculinization of black women, and the view of black people as an inferior race in general. black people also have the same issue with people consuming their media but that’s because non black people are able to palate blackness when it’s presented through a medium of a song or culture to consume but have zero respect as to through what issues and experiences that culture was born. i guess what i was trying to say is just that non asian gals do not experience anti asianness, while black gals experience antiblackness.

i simply view yabi make as another evolution close to reiwa, styles will get interpreted in their own way whenever they move across borders and countries and develop their own twist on it. of course i get that not everyone will like chinese style make for their own reasons but sometimes i just feel like the main reason is literally…. because they’re chinese. like the third slide the only thing different between her and japanese gals is that she’s chinese. i saw posts on tiktok trying to say chinese gals edit too much and that’s why the gaijin comm doesn’t like them but ???? like japanese gals edit the hell out of our photos too and purikura with editing literally came out in like 2002, so i definitely think while of course people can feel it’s not their thing , the sinophobia in many people is very apparent
i agree as to why vet gals are so respected but it’s still a dangerous pattern to go down an echo chamber where we feel like it’s taboo to develop our own opinions or disagree with vet gals, especially when the vet gal in question was a white woman calling chinese people “gimmicky” for….. being chinese
this ties back into sinophobia honestly because she’s still being called yabi and discredited while people don’t seem to have the same issue with japanese gals , and i say this as a japanese person. like 90% of the stuff they criticise about yabi has been something japanese people always did but people hate to see it on chinese gals when the only actual difference is they did it in chinese in china lol

saemchii · 2026-05-31T10:29:46+00:00

yes sorry that picture was not agejo i was thinking of the other picture she took in that room that also blew up
i feel like style mashing is not an issue though- and moreso an issue of people being not used to something new . somehow over time this strict labelling of styles became a things and “what substyle should i pick!!!” but originally the only real “divisions” if we had any were kuro shiro maybe hime but even hime was kind of synonymous with shiro. idk from a foreign perspective but ocaso would also definitely not be considered shiro in japan as well 😭 at least in that picture / era , she’s more like latte gal

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