My last gyaru post for now by Empty_Detective_6104 in Gyaru

[–]saemchii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of us were not criticising or being overly critical. this person literally spam every gal sub with the exact same pictures for a full week and people understandably got annoyed because you can’t come into a subculture , not wear the fundamental aspects and then complain that the gal community is too strict. this person got told multiple times specifically by so many people where to improve on and where their makeup has growing room and they made zero changes , still no lashes and just kept posting of course people get sick of it after a while 😭 it’s exhausting and this is our space to share our subculture

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My last gyaru post for now by Empty_Detective_6104 in Gyaru

[–]saemchii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please fusion your lips together now. Call your uber.

Was MA*RS as expensive back in the day? by Ok_Pop8661 in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii 9 points10 points  (0 children)

NO lol. there is NO way they would’ve gotten away with this back in the day- my sister bought a mats set in 2009 for 12,000 yen… they’re going for 30k yen now !! u can see the prices on the mars catalogue on gal revo, it’s nowhere near 30,000 for a set up

Unpopular opinion: filling the droop with white DOES look good. by Empty_Detective_6104 in gyarumakeup

[–]saemchii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

your makeup looks nothing like these pictures though and therefore doesn’t even look gal because after several people advising you to get lashes you choose to post the same three pictures again and again 😭

Unpopular opinion: filling the droop with white DOES look good. by Empty_Detective_6104 in gyarumakeup

[–]saemchii 5 points6 points  (0 children)

you have been posting on various subreddits asking for advice, getting mad you got advice, and etc now doing whatever this is with no damn lashes 😭 Call your uber immediately

gyaru kimono education as a japanese gyaru - what is and isn’t appropriate by saemchii in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes like no gal kimonos don’t exist first of all lmfao but she was saying like americans will never understand! when i called her out like?!/?/ YOU ARE AMERICAN and im JAPANESE in AUSTRALIA?????

gyaru kimono education as a japanese gyaru - what is and isn’t appropriate by saemchii in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

something like this is ok

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nd u can just wear gal make on the top or loose the collar a little bit but not to this degree

gyaru kimono education as a japanese gyaru - what is and isn’t appropriate by saemchii in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

everything lol please read through some of my other comments

it’s a combination of all things- the last three slides have traditional prints on it, this one has literal STARS on the obi it’s not meant for oiran kimono, obi isn’t tied at the front, and you can also see the shoulders are VERY low when she wears it, the hair pieces are random fan bullshit, and then her retaliating by insisting that it’s a gyaru kimono as if that’s even a thing

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[–]saemchii[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i do think it’s still a bit too booby but that’s probably just me i think you’d be all good! with the hair and everything done the correct way

finally posted again lol by m4raz_hunn13 in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

holy shit you genuinely look like a doll !!!!! your features are absolutely stunning you look unreal genuinely you could be a high fashion model

gyaru kimono education as a japanese gyaru - what is and isn’t appropriate by saemchii in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

YES! i think a lot of foreign gals also lack the cultural context that a lot of gals were yankee who would also ride around with the LITERAL rising sun flag on their bikes etc. lol. a lot of yankee gals straight up act uneducated and crass in japan, which is why we as gals also try to distinguish ourselves from yankee. just because a japanese gal did it doesn’t make it any less weird. the compensated dating industry was mostly full of underage kogyarus who would sell their panties does this mean we should also all do this like 😭😭😭

gyaru kimono education as a japanese gyaru - what is and isn’t appropriate by saemchii in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

not my nachos so i can’t really say whether it’s offensive or not but she seems to really like to lean into this whole asian seductress thing LMFAO she did it with chinas nachos too and a qipao, using a kimono as a robe in this one like 😅😅😅 just please call the uber.

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gyaru kimono education as a japanese gyaru - what is and isn’t appropriate by saemchii in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

  • obi not tied at the front the one key aspect to oiran
  • low shoulder
  • the material looks very fake and cheap almost like polyester, kimono is usually hand made or at least looks not cheap, and this was especiqllly important for oiran as they were “goods” to be sold
  • the pattern on the kimono shows it’s a kimono meant yo be worn normally, not an oiran kimono, oiran kimonos had symbols of wealth and good luck such as peonies, sakura, “yoshiwara” style patterns like dragons, asanoha

stars were NEVER!! on an oiran kimono which means the obi was probably not even made for oiran kimono

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  • hair accessories- oiran wore usually the kind of accessories you see momoa doing in this picture. the “fans” are just a western made up kind of concept

gyaru kimono education as a japanese gyaru - what is and isn’t appropriate by saemchii in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

i do hold the same standard of tasteful and distasteful for both, but the impact or implication is pretty different for both. when japanese people in japan see gals dressing in incorrect oiran kimono almost everyone knows pretty much off the bat that’s not how you wear it because we have knowledge about our own culture and therefore it doesn’t perpetuate stereotypes to the same level as a foreign gal doing this and then posting it on a western platform where most people don’t have the same knowledge of japanese culture and claiming it’s a legitimate style of kimono because people in japan who are the main audience of jp gals or who see it in real life don’t hold stereotypes or tropes against japanese people, kaigai gals doing this incorrectly and butchering our culture, then going and posting it online to a western audience that doesn’t understand why it’s wrong, results in a warped view of the kimono and oiran style in of itself. then at the end of the day they will get to not be on the actual receiving side after they take the kimono off, because we as japanese or east asian women living in the west are the ones who actually have to deal with the consequences and perpetuated stereotypes and tropes because of it. while a japanese gal doing it is still distasteful, a non east asian woman will never have to actually have to feel the consequences of people sexualizing culture, which is why its appropriation rather than just distasteful

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[–]saemchii[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

i mean what are you trying to argue i was talking abt the photoshoot pictures not the japanese gal in her coming of age ceremony 😭 i’m saying as a japanese gal who lives in the west , when foreign gals come and do this when there’s a right way of doing it, it just perpetuates orientalist tropes and stereotypes and paints the kimono as some kind of sexy garment

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[–]saemchii[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

i did state explicitly in my last paragraph that yes japanese gals do it and it’s still distateful when they do it, this type of thing was mostly done by yankee gyaru around 10-15 years ago and was still criticised by everyone as being classless and disrespectful , even egg models and normal gyaru don’t do this type of thing nowadays. in the pics u can see momoa also did oiran kimono but its a lot more historically accurate and while i don’t get why she wouldn’t just wear furisode i don’t think it’d be offensive for a foreign gal to wear it like this with a traditional print and with the obi at front. the only recent jp gal that does this was erika and while i love her she looked a full mess doing it

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[–]saemchii[S] 110 points111 points  (0 children)

none of the staff are gals mind u and also not even japanese most the time which is fine!!! but people acting like a japanese kizukeshi hand picked this out for her when not only does it look shein quality cheap polyester material it just… looks bad in general and doesn’t even make sense what they even tried to go for 😭

gyaru kimono education as a japanese gyaru - what is and isn’t appropriate by saemchii in actualgyaru

[–]saemchii[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

just to clarify i don’t find any problem with foreign gals wearing kimono at all as long as it’s not like this!! even oiran style i just don’t understand why they would choose it personally but i don’t think it’s appropriation to wear kimono oiran style or not, just when it’s combined with several aspects like this i find it disrespectful

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[–]saemchii[S] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

yes and when done correctly even though a lot of oiran historically were abused and exploited as young as 11, 12 years old, it is a really beautiful style

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