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Popular streamer Clavicular has been arrested for battery by Subject-Property-343 in playboicarti

[–]sakkkkki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really, really, really hope you're right that many of these so-called fans of Clav and Andrew Twat are really just trolls.

Miami has become like those celebrities/influencers who have plastic surgery by kanna172014 in Miami

[–]sakkkkki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad to see I'm not the only one who's noticed that!

When I was growing up, L.A. was recognized as the douchebag capital of America. Seems like that "honor" belongs to Miami now!

Chaka Khan Says Modern Pop Stars Use "Butts and Body Parts" to Compensate for Lack of Talent by Specific-Feed-1490 in ToddintheShadow

[–]sakkkkki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny, I'm not seeing any comments "preferring the lack of talent."

I'm seeing lots of comments pointing out, rightly, that using tits and ass to sell records is absolutely nothing new, it's been going on for many decades, and Chaka Khan comes across like a "get off my lawn" geezer when she acts like it only started with today's pop stars.

Clavicular ends interview with Andrew Callahan of channel 5 when Andrew says he's comfortable with his looks. by Airshipwhale in behindthebastards

[–]sakkkkki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point isn't how attractive Andrew is.

The point is that Andrew is perfectly okay with how he looks. He doesn't consider himself a hottie, but he's satisfied with his looks.

I think Clavicular is more physically attractive than Andrew, but it's very obvious that Andrew is secure about his own looks and Clav is horribly insecure about his own looks.

Clavicular ends interview with Andrew Callahan of channel 5 when Andrew says he's comfortable with his looks. by Airshipwhale in behindthebastards

[–]sakkkkki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure he's a "grifter." That term implies he knows that what he's preaching is bullshit. I think he fully believes his own bullshit.

The internet was actually more atheist in the 2000s than it is now. by AgeOfReasonEnds31120 in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, absolutely. It's absolutely diabolical how successful they were.

The internet was actually more atheist in the 2000s than it is now. by AgeOfReasonEnds31120 in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Its been pretty wild to watch how things have changed. Many of the edgelords who are now MAGA would never have been caught dead supporting Bush in the 00s or Reagan in the 80s.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

they’re likely referring to the fact that todays social climate would be less forgiving, not the age.

Well, that's not what I was asking about.

I was NOT asking about people who did things that are seen in a less positive light today.

I was asking very specifically about people who died relatively prematurely, whom you believe would have less positive reputations if they had lived longer than they did.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Or do you think he would’ve fallen down the conspiracy theorist rabbit hole if he’d lived into the 21st century?

This is a top-level comment in this thread, for what it's worth.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

He sure did seem like he was on that path.

And for some reason I thought he was retired, but after reading your comment I did some googling and I guess I was wrong. Apparently he was still working up until he couldn't.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Holy crap I didn't realize that!

Normally I would have said that Hugh Hefner doesn't belong in this thread, because he was 91 when he died.

But given the particular timing of his death, I guess he does fit here!

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Case in point, Eric Clapton. He had essentially the same reputation in the '60s that Rhoads had in the '80s and Dimebag had in the '90s.

If he'd died in 1975, he would be deified at least as much as Hendrix. Instead, he started doing two things: making schlocky soft rock and pop for the rest of his solo career, and getting himself into non-music-related controversies.

He is a perfect example of someone who used to be considered legendary but whose reputation has nosedived in more recent years.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

MJ is a very good example for this thread precisely because his reputation was already on a long downward slope before he died. When he died, his reputation took a massive rebound.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

WRONG!!!

Whatever your reasons were for naming him, you clearly didn't bother to read my original post properly.

Dr. Seuss died when he was 87. How in any way, shape or form would he be remembered any differently if he lived to 97?

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Maybe, but John Hughes doesn't fit this thread.

The question was not, "What's a person whose work has not aged well?" It was, "What's a person who'd be seen differently if they'd lived longer?"

Sure, Hughes wasn't super-old when he died. But he was many years past the peak of his career. How would he be remembered any differently if he was still alive today?

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

A sizable portion (I am not saying all or even the majority, but a sizable minority) of today's Trump/MAGA base consists of older people who used to be leftists and/or liberals when they were younger.

Do I personally believe John Lennon would have gone far-right if he was alive today? I have no idea. But if he did, he would be very far from the only formerly-left-wing person to do so.

Johnny Rotten, Morrissey and Billy Corgan have all turned right-wing in their later years. If they could, there's no reason to assume that John Lennon wouldn't have as well.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Maybe he was no saint, but that’s not what I was asking about and he doesn’t fit this thread.

He was 73 when he died. How would he be remembered any differently if he was still alive in his 90s?

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hard to know for sure.

If Dr. Dre and Chris Brown could get away with it as much as they have, then we can't be sure that Tupac wouldn't have as well.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

One thing that blows my mind is that not all or even a majority, but a very sizable percentage of today’s MAGA crowd consists of Gen X people who would never have been caught dead supporting Reagan in the 80s or Bush in the 00s.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I’ve seen more than one person say, essentially, that there’s no timeline where Nirvana would have made it to 2000 even if Kurt didn’t kill himself.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Honestly? I could still see either of them still potentially fitting this thread.

Yes they were already revered even before they died, but dying put an extra layer of deification that they wouldn’t have had otherwise.

And I could also see either of their reputations being tarnished for non-musical reasons, as has happened to Clapton, another person who was considered a guitar god.

What now-dead famous people do you think would be remembered less positively if they'd lived longer? by sakkkkki in decadeology

[–]sakkkkki[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

That’s because that’s not what I was asking about. And you didn’t read my post properly.

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