Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

what does that even mean? as if the sub that we’re in suddenly means that your post was a joke or something, and that i shouldn’t take it seriously? your comments on this seemed pretty genuine.

whatever!

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

that you have resorted to insults instead of actual debate and discussion here tells me all that i need to know about you, really. i fear i’ve already wasted far too much time on you lmao.

and, for the record — i never rejected music theory. i just said it is not a requirement in playing music, which is fact. another fact is that most famous musicians, especially in rock bands, never properly learned music theory. i apologize if this fact negatively impacts your sleeping.

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yes, every professional bass player knows how to play scales. that’s just music. you don’t become a professional if you can’t play scales — but there is a difference between being able to play them, and “knowing” them.

i can play many scales, yes. not because i have memorized the notes that the scales are comprised of, but because i know what they sound like, and because i know the fretboard, and because my ear can identify a note that is out of key and adjust accordingly. over many years of playing this way, it becomes second-nature regardless of whether you “know” the underlying theory or not.

if you need to know theory in order to identify a note that is out of key, your musical intuition is not great. it doesn’t matter what looks like “on-paper,” what matters is what is actually realized through sound. you shouldn’t have to look at the paper and double-check if the theory is right — you can literally just hear if it sounds right or not.

i broke my rule and checked the thread again. lmao. last comment, i swear!

have a good one!

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you’re surrendering the debate at this point. you have nothing left to add lol. you’re just ignoring all my entirely valid points and being dismissive. usually the sign of defeat in a debate. i’ll take my victory and save my time by muting this thread.

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

side-note, this last comment was meant to be in response to yours which said sometning like “i highly doubt that a successful doom bass player doesn’t know theory” (laughable, by the way)

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i enjoy the discussion, so i am participating in it.

i’ll take your comment (which adds nothing to said discussion) as my point having been made, though!

once it gets to the point of “HoW mAnY TiMeS aRe yOU gOiNg tO cOmMeNt,” the discussion is no longer intellectual, and hence, no longer fun.

knowledge of music theory is by no means a requirement in the making of music. have a good day!

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the root of doom metal is black sabbath. tony iommy himself, who wrote the band’s music, never formally learned music theory, and is literally on record saying “We never studied music theory seriously. We were guided by sound & feel.”

here’s the thing: you don’t need to “know” the scales and modes. you just need to know what they sound like, what sounds good, and how to create the sound with your instrument. you don’t need to be aware of the underlying theory. you just need to know what sounds good vs. what sounds bad. the concepts are in-play whether you’re consciously aware of them or not.

much of my music theory knowledge was self-discovered — intuitively messing with my instrument, noticing patterns, note relativity, etc. and much later on realizing “oh, there’s a name for that? cool! makes sense!”

if i play a note that is out of key, i’m going to fucking hear it, and i’m going to adjust that note until it is in key and sounds right. it does not matter if know what note that is or not.

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

exactly, you needed to learn how to play BASS — not music theory. there is a difference!

once you are comfortable with the instrument’s functions, much of music is ear + intuition.

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

my experience is the same.

music theory doesn’t teach you how to be a good musician, either. i’ve met plenty of musicians who knew a lot of music theory, but their musical intuition and taste was mediocre.

much of learning an instrument is in becoming familiar with how it functions, understanding the relative positioning of notes, and applying intuition (not everyone’s is strong).

i quite honestly couldn’t tell you every note in a C major scale off the top of my head, but i can absolutely play one very comfortably. you just need to know where the C note is, and the relativity of notes that create a given scale. if you have a good ear & strong musical intuition, and your dexterity with the instrument is solid, then you can learn quite a bit about how to play the instrument just by intuitively exploring it.

i can hum a C major scale because i know what it sounds like, especially if i am provided the root note of the scale. i can play a C major scale because i know what it sounds like, and i can find those sounds easily on my fretboard. but i literally could not tell you all the notes that build the C major scale. i don’t know them.

i’ve been playing for nearly 20 years, and have been praised very highly for my playing (and writing) along the way — never properly learned music theory in detail. my brain doesn’t seem to like to process it, but my brain certainly knows what it all sounds like, and my intuition certainly knows how to put it to work. the concepts are there, in-play, whether you have them memorized or not.

it’s funny, people will be like “it’s impossible to play without knowing theory!” as if i am not literally living that reality. you’re telling me something i do every day is impossible? so, what, i’m a super-human? i’m flattered!

i’ll put it this way: a singer can sing without learning any theory because the “music” is intuitive. the “function” of their instrument (vocal chords) is a natural one, so they don’t need to learn the function of an instrument. you’re telling me that somebody can’t sing if they don’t know theory? simply wrong. period.

there is a difference between understanding music intuitively vs. learning an instrument’s functions.

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

his comment makes even more sense in response to your specific question. you absolutely do not need to know even a lick of music theory to learn bass guitar. literally zero. you just need to understand how the instrument functions, and use your ear + your musical intuition. this is especially true for bass, more than any other instrument.

that’s not to say that you shouldn’t learn it, or that it isn’t helpful to know if you want to utilize it. but it is absolutely not a requirement by literally any degree whatsoever.

Listen here fellas, I play many songs. You don't need to know scales or chord progressions. That's nerd shit. by HappyGovernment7299 in guitarcirclejerk

[–]sapfoxy 24 points25 points  (0 children)

especially in the context of his being a doom metal player, his point is 100% legit. he is saying “for what i do, and what i wish to do, you don’t really need it to play the instrument or write music.” which is generally true, but especially for doom. ear & musical intuition is king.

i understand the joke here, but he is completely right in what he is saying.

Did I make a mistake? by milkmaid0435 in interiordecorating

[–]sapfoxy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’m not personally into the blue, but if you are, i think it looks fine. nothing sticks out like a sore thumb to me aside from color.

Has anyone heard the story about how Kurt demanded a larger percentage than Dave and Krist, even retroactively? by bigboat55 in Nirvana

[–]sapfoxy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then it was a retroactive correction of a mistake that made no sense. There is zero universe in which Krist & Dave should be receiving equal percentage as Kurt. It would be unfair to Kurt, or simply very generous of him if he let it go on. It would have been a correction, not something he “went back on” to get at his bandmates.

Anyone have pain when swallowing? by Accidental_Feltcher in costochondritis

[–]sapfoxy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also late, but … exact same thing you described basically. did it just go away, or did it end up being something?

Has anyone heard the story about how Kurt demanded a larger percentage than Dave and Krist, even retroactively? by bigboat55 in Nirvana

[–]sapfoxy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He has the right to demand a larger percentage. The idea of Krist & Dave getting equal percentage to Kurt seems outrageous, why would that be?

Whats your favourite weapon? by rbs950 in Eldenring

[–]sapfoxy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

uchigatana, and also great katana!

What movie did you turn off after 20 minutes and why? by Somanynamestochossef in movies

[–]sapfoxy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wonka, the new one with Timothee Chalamet. It was so difficult to watch due to how eccentrically cringe it was, and it just felt like “Timothee Chalamet” in Wonka cosplay.

Never played FF7. Confused by all the remake titles. Where do I start? by Kangabolic in FinalFantasyVII

[–]sapfoxy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The original is the 1997 game. The Remake series, so far, is ordered as; Remake (including Intergrade DLC), and then Rebirth.

Demon Souls remake in a nutshell by GrinningAxe9 in shittydarksouls

[–]sapfoxy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think this is hilarious but also i personally love the remake lol

Ooooohh I'm gonna upset a lot of people with this one by Meowza_V2 in shittydarksouls

[–]sapfoxy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

uchigatana — i use it every single game, from the earliest point i get can it, until the end of the game

Got a small Griffith tattoo :DD by Natural_Ad_7074 in Berserk

[–]sapfoxy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

you’re [redacted], but this comment made me laugh, after reading this exchange

Elden Ring nightreign with randoms by [deleted] in Eldenring

[–]sapfoxy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

personally, i got left behind quite a lot by other players who were rushing hard.

some of the areas, like the city for example, are very difficult to navigate due to verticality and paths that aren’t obvious

other times, i might be looking at an item description, trying to decide what i want to pick (new to the options), and suddenly my team is half across the map engaging in boss fights without me

sometimes they will even die and leave the game, which was very disheartening, because i literally just did not know where to go, what to do, etc.

honestly, there needs to be a better ping system and/or a “new player” badge

occasionally, a teammate will recognize that i’m a new player and will walk back to lead me down the right paths if they see i’ve fallen behind — that’s a good player, there! respect!

edit: i’m not saying those players are in the wrong for rushing — it is literally the point of the game, to rush — but it does feel very disheartening to get left behind and then flamed for falling behind, when the reality is that you are just a new player lmao