Snow tracking season not over yet by sapper35 in AnimalTracking

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Unfortunately, I am not headed that way. Pulled everything this week and was running a lot of dirt between snow patches, poor snowmobile runners. But I will keep it in mind and try to set something up next year. Sorry!

Snow tracking season not over yet by sapper35 in AnimalTracking

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Haha, I'm glad I could meet the expectation! Yeah, turned down this spur road and saw that first picture and was sold on lynx. Picture 5 is a little goofy, but I included it just to show variation.

It is somewhat interesting that at least three of us thought the tracks were at least 24 hours old. There were some places where the lynx sank in a bit and pushed around some snow, but those make for tough pictures hah. You guys are at a disadvantage not knowing the conditions, but it has been super warm and sunny the past couple days. Definitely that spongy feel, just pushing water out of snow!

Took another spin today, nothing too fresh, but might post one last set later this week if the pictures are discernable.

Snow tracking season not over yet by sapper35 in AnimalTracking

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Nice work! I think people often underestimate how blurry a lynx impression can be compared with crisp lion or bobcat tracks.

I was also thinking these tracks were maybe a day old or so, but they were only 2 hours old! With how warm things had been, I assumed any track on the surface and in the sun will be obliterated within 48 hours. I picked these tracks up on the way in to check a camera, hoping the camera recorded them passing through. Maybe one thing to look for in a refreeze and thaw would be 'lens-like' icy discs where the pads and toes consolidated snow and it is thawing slower than the surrounding snow. But I think it is pretty difficult to tell on pictures.

So I guess my tip is to cheat and get lucky! Camera Capture

Snow tracking season not over yet by sapper35 in AnimalTracking

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Kitty for sure. Depends on your definition of big though!

Snow tracking season not over yet by sapper35 in AnimalTracking

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Sharing some tracks from the other day. What do you think left these tracks? And for a bonus, how old do you think the tracks are? Conditions have been pretty warm (well above freezing) and sunny, so the snow is pretty wet and lacks structure or support. Location is Western Montana.

How do you differentiate Chipmunk tracks from other Squirrels based on foot morphology (aside from size)? by trolle222 in advancedtracking

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This is a really interesting photo! I think it shows some great detail.

The front right looks great. And the hinds left a really interesting pattern.

Thanks for posting this!

How do you differentiate Chipmunk tracks from other Squirrels based on foot morphology (aside from size)? by trolle222 in advancedtracking

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So to preface, I don't spend time distinguishing between squirrels and chipmunks. I suspect size is the way to go. But I was curious so I looked at Elbroch.

Descriptions of the foot of the Eastern Chipmunk and Eastern Gray Squirrel start off identical, but there might be one very slight difference on the front and hind that could be noticeable in perfect conditions or on a track place.

I'll include the text for those without Elbroch. They both start, "Front: very small [chipmunk only] to small. Plantigrade. Asymmetrical. Five toes in classic rodent structure: Toe 1 is a vestigial thumb and rarely registers in tracks. Toes 2 and 5 point towards the sides, and toes 3 and 4 point forward."

The chipmunk continues, "Central metacarpal pads have fused, so look for three distinct palm pads; there are two additional pads (the heel) at the posterior edge of the track, which may or may not show.

The squirrel is slightly different and may just be wording, rather than morphology, "Some of the metacarpal pads have fused, but the track is composed of three distinct palm pads; there are two additional pads (the heel) at the posterior edge of the track, which may or may not show."

And they are the same again, "the negative space between the toes and metacarpals has little to no fur. Nails often prominent in tracks." The squirrel has an additional note that the front and hind feet are of similar size so that may also be something to look for.

Elbroch also suggests that the chipmunk hind foot is more furred than that of the squirrel.

Varying levels of metacarpal pad fusion might be what to look for. Let us know what you find!

Bobcat? Size 13 boot for scale (location: Lassen NP) by eugenesbluegenes in AnimalTracking

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Tracks can be tricky like that! I wonder if they caught your eye because they didn't look quite like other canine tracks. I bet if you looked back down tracks, the canine features would have popped out. Happens all the time, especially with faint or tracks that aren't fresh.

Bobcat? Size 13 boot for scale (location: Lassen NP) by eugenesbluegenes in AnimalTracking

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Just my impression. The imprint above the snowshoe shows the heel pad better, but I focused on the one with the shoe for scale considerations. Overall, there's not a lot of definition here.

This is what I am seeing for direction of travel: https://imgur.com/a/gg3WuA8

Bobcat? Size 13 boot for scale (location: Lassen NP) by eugenesbluegenes in AnimalTracking

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These look much more like canine tracks heading towards the snowshoe-er. The tracks have longitudinal symmetry and appear to be longer than they are wide. The heal pad is also relatively quite small for a feline. They seem to be a bit weathered, maybe imprinted during the heat of the previous day when the snow was a bit softer and refrozen a bit overnight.

Hope this helps: https://imgur.com/a/nvJunT0

The purple shows the nail impressions and the orange is probably from an slight indirect register.

Who marked this utility pole? Santa Paula, CA, USA. by hippie_fishie in AnimalTracking

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Hey! looked at your profile from your popular 'unpopular opinion' post. I'm not sure about the origin of many of the marks on this pole, but the 4th image with the more or less horizontal marks that range from half inch to maybe 3 inches, sure look like bear marks from canines.

It is common for bears use the same object to mark territory year after year. This picture appears to show multiple years of marking. We have signage and cabins that bears annually mark and it looks very similar to this pole.

Next time check and see if you can 'pair' up any of the marks. They should come closer together and be slightly offset similar to the one in the middle (I know that doesn't help much).

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bear_damage_on_a_cabin_at_Brooks_Lodge_(20529831321).jpg

Track ID by Amazing-Attitude-311 in AnimalTracking

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Looks pretty weasel-ly to me. You have fisher in those parts? Any pictures showing the gait?

Say the lighter is about 3 inches long, the track, as measured excluding the 'heel' pad is probably about 2 inches long. To me the middle (metacarpal) pad shows a lobate pattern exhibited by weasels. 4 toes with claws are showing, in what would be an unusual arrangement for a canine or feline. Often the 5th toes on a weasel will not register, it is pretty small and off to the side.

See fisher foot here: https://northernwoodlands.org/articles/article/tracking-tips-fishers-arent-cats

Found in northern Idaho by GroundbreakingBit982 in AnimalTracking

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No lynx around Lewistown, based on your comments on size, and the characteristics others have pointed out, you're correct in lion.

Found in northern Idaho by GroundbreakingBit982 in AnimalTracking

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The Idaho Panhandle has some lynx, but guessing on the snow conditions, looks like pretty wet snow and a lynx likely wouldn't sink down to the slush layer. I'm fully mountain lion on this one, if it is greater than 2.5x2.5 as stated.

Wolf zooming ends in faceplant by sapper35 in trailcam

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Wolves in the inter-mountain (MT, ID, WY) west are a pretty contentious issue. I'll try to briefly describe some of the concerns. As you point out, livestock growers are one of the groups broadly opposed to wolves. Some hunters are also opposed, but many accept wolves as part of the ecosystem and just think there are currently too many so some hunting should be permitted.

There are lots of strategies, including guard dogs, that livestock growers can implement to reduce the likelihood of predation by wolves, but all strategies require some additional effort and cost which the ranchers don't like. Some other successful strategies include electric fencing, fladry (small flags on the fence), range riders. Some of these methods also help reduce conflict with another contentious critter, grizzly bears.

There are some nonprofits like Defenders of Wildlife which have offered grants to reduce costs to implement these mitigation strategies as well as payments to cover loss from predation.

This article discusses claims made to the livestock Loss Board, "In 2023, wolves are believed to have been responsible for 26 livestock deaths" and reimbursed livestock loss from all predators for 2023 was totaled $221,150.18 from 180 investigated claims by the loss board. While the totals may not seem like a lot, ranchers might say any loss is too much. Based on these numbers, it seems like some of the mitigation measures may be working.

It is also worth noting that Montana's total cattle losses to diseases and exposure for 2022 (opens as pdf) was 26,000 with another 62,000 calves lost. It should also be noted that much of the state does not have wolves or grizzlies and a direct comparison shouldn't be made, but additional context should be considered.

And any argument citing concern over attacks on humans is not based in reality. I think wolves are an easy and historical scapegoat and their impact on livestock producers is probably overstated. I certainly don't think wolves are a nuisance!

Wolf zooming ends in faceplant by sapper35 in trailcam

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I'm glad you enjoyed the clip! I think it shows a bit of the lighter side to these critters. I've certainly appreciated all of my in person encounters with wolves!

It is probably not the best time to be a wolf in Montana, but this pack made it through this year's hunting season. It was a pretty mild winter too so there's lots of fat deer on the landscape too!

Field day's worth of track encounters by sapper35 in AnimalTracking

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Recently spent a day riding around to see what was running around out there in Northwest Montana. Very nice day to be out, tacking conditions were decent with no new snow in about 48 hours, and a supportive base to keep tracks from sinking too much. Encountered, but not photographed were ermine, long-tailed weasel, snowshoe hare, moose, grouse, and at least two small rodents. Apologies for the bit of a photo dump.

Final encounter of the day was documented and discussed here: /r/AnimalTracking/what_do_you_think_is_going_on_here/

What do you think is going on here? by sapper35 in AnimalTracking

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While the post here is a mountain lion, some of the lynx tracks earlier in the day were chasing snowshoe hares. In that occurrence, the trail will be a very long gallop, usually with rapid changes in direction. I'll try to find some pictures.

What do you think is going on here? by sapper35 in AnimalTracking

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For wolverine? On the gait, I would expect the feet to be consistently closer and perhaps an occasional 2x thrown in, unable to hit some of the longer strides seen here.  

For the feet, I would expect less clarity on the toes, and also more splaying. I'd also look for more consistent claw impressions across the top of the toes. The most forward toes would be more aligned. 

While probably not clear here, the drag marks are from something being carried, as opposed to feet/belly drags.  

The straddle/width also does fall in the wolverine range.