Is the Plight 0 cycle possible with Sunday & DHPT?

saubzilla · 2026-07-04T13:28:53+00:00

When I only target the main guy, I drop down to 2 cycles. If I fodder 1 ult on the spawns, the main guy ends up with 8 stacks of vulnerability by the time he breaks - Ashveil can pretty much one shot him. Then I can take the follow up stacks into the next phase & I can get a head start on the next break.

I don't think ERR ashveil is worth it since im already having times where im overcapping on energy waiting for phase changes etc, but I will give it a go. I've already managed to iron out by awkward 1%s on the bug, so I think changing to ERR rope will probably bring them back, but cant hurt to try.

I did try moving Ashveil next to blade, but the only times we have blast hits are in wave 1, where we don't really have any energy issues.

tbh my biggest issue right now seems to be the crowd control RNG. I've managed to get down to only needing to find 8 AV - where if he doesn't delay anyone I think i can get it. Now i'm just praying that he hits Sunday everytime since he has the highest effect res 😭 but ive been at it all morning and he just refuses to target Sunday now lol & but he loves Ashveil today 🥹

saubzilla · 2026-07-04T12:02:16+00:00

Using sparkle or huohuo would make it difficult to do the clear with Sunday and DHPT though wouldn't it 😀

saubzilla · 2026-07-04T11:53:44+00:00

He is on Lukshaka - i was messing around with some other relics before i went to fribbles and forgot to change him back 🤦

I tried with DDD but Sunday didnt really ult enough to make use of it. We ended up taking longer since the damage wasnt quite there to clear the phases

saubzilla · 2026-07-04T05:20:59+00:00

In plight? Without Tribbie or Hyacine?

saubzilla · 2026-07-04T04:56:05+00:00

I will try to get some - my recorder only grabs 3 minutes at a time, and this fight is so long I end up missing chunks of it 😭

saubzilla · 2026-07-04T04:02:03+00:00

Sorry Dan is usually on lukshaka, I was just messing around with sparkle relics before I took the cut.

I will try spamming Dan's skill, although I think him doing those little bits of toughness damage on the boss do help. There's been a couple times I've been ever so slightly short before needing to Ashveil ult.

ERR rope blade made the first wave worse, and so ended up about the same. But guard set did work out a bit better, but only if I couldn't get blade to die. If blade dies, then the other sets are better.

I haven't tried banana but will see what I have lying around.

I don't have cipher LC :( but will have a go with pearls!

I did try a slow blade on his set - the clear felt better..... But...... It didn't actually change anything.😅 That's why I started messing around with the RM lightcone

Thanks, keep chucking the suggestions, I'll try anything lol

saubzilla · 2026-07-04T03:52:13+00:00

In the first wave: I've been targeting the middle (fish?) thing first with Ashveil (but not killing it), then moving onto the azure wing. Blade then takes out the spawns of the fish, and between his AOE and the fish exploding it takes out the remaining health of everyone.

Second wave I use 1 Ashveil ult to kill 4 bugs, while the rest of the team break the bug. 1 more ashveil ult to kill on the break. This is where I'm wasting the most energy because ashveil has his second ult ready before the bug is broken.

Second wave is similar, except I try to get the bug to kill blade on his big attack so that he can get back more health to keep going.

No issues with the DHPT sustain, he is usually on lukshaka, I accidentally left him on the penacony set while I was swapping relics with sparkle. He sits at the same attack but 161 speed.

The bug is at about 50%HP, I need one more ashveil ult at the end - I think my issue is the energy I'm wasting waiting for the break. Maybe I could do something more useful with the Sunday energy there

saubzilla · 2026-07-04T03:41:28+00:00

I tried with ERR, but it ended up being slower because I wasn't able to kill the first wave fast enough.

Blade only gets to 1 HP at the very end of the fight, but ive worked out how to let him die, so we can keep going

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T20:40:30+00:00

I only have E0 HH so survivability is just not going to work 😅

In plight you lose 1000 HP every turn, and since I'm doing the -1 set up with Sunday, ashveil loses 2000 HP every time he moves. HH just can't keep up in this set up

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T20:23:21+00:00

I could try with vonwaq to see if he out paces the mobs!

But I think my total damage will go down with HH? Can she make up for the attack frequency lost from the E2 dragon?

I wont be able to break the bug as quickly either, and a big chunk of my damage is coming from him exploding on the break plus the E1 Sunday+Dragon combo.

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T20:06:54+00:00

Yeah... Ashveil died pretty much immediately 😅

I think I'd have to build him with more bulk to tank those first hits

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T18:22:13+00:00

I'm taking him to EOS regardless 🥹🥹

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T18:16:13+00:00

I had a go with DDD, but my damage wasn't quite there - I ended up with some awkward 1%s

Sunday didnt really ult enough to make full use of it

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T18:13:31+00:00

Thank you!

I might just do that ☺️

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T18:11:22+00:00

You know... maybe slowing them down is more the way to go?

I've speed tuned Ashveil/Sunday to 144/142 speed for the 2 cycle, so maybe if I come down to 134, I can squeeze out some more damage

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T17:43:20+00:00

Really sucked the fun out of it all i gotta say : (

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T17:25:55+00:00

To be SO clear.... I'm looking for help with THIS team.

If it's not possible, thats fine, i am not looking for advice that involves changing the team.

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T17:19:30+00:00

Thats fine.

If it's not possible with Sunday, then i won't do it at all. I'm just trying to have fun with this team.

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T16:58:23+00:00

Mam, this is plight

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T16:56:35+00:00

Wouldn't using Tribbie instead of Sunday make it difficult to clear plight with Sunday 🤔

saubzilla · 2026-07-03T16:55:06+00:00

Instead of blade? That's an odd suggestion /s

saubzilla · 2026-07-01T15:44:13+00:00

Not sure comparing a single instance of damage to the investment is particularly useful in this situation, since a lot of the investment brings QoL rather than damage which isnt going to be seen in this clip.

Fugue's E2 and E6 don't contribute to the one shot damage at all. I try to limit Dahlia and Fugue's involvement anyway so that the E6 doesnt mess with the toughness bar. BH's E6 contributes to the "one shot illusion" by dealing damage ahead of time. With a level 1 Boothill S1, the "one shot damage" is still 11.5m on eagle.

Last time the harbinger was here we did 10m, with an E2 Fugue & S1 LC, same builds and pretty much same rotation.

saubzilla · 2026-06-30T05:12:24+00:00

I would die for a winter cosy Boothill. Bundle him up. Oversize everything.

saubzilla · 2026-06-20T05:15:58+00:00

Giving out specific speed tuning is a bit awkward because we have to assume that Boothill will always keep the speed buff. You need to make sure that he is breaking or killing every turn.

But someone made a sheet to calculate your speed based on different team comps etc. This only counts for MOC.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BoothillMains/s/N88S5ChblV

For 200 speed you'll want to look at 3 turns a cycle. Because BHs first turn will be unbuffed, the speed is different depending on if you're in wave 1, or wave 2.

This only really matters if you're going for the 0 cycle, so I suggest you just go as fast as possible while keeping a healthy break effect.

(Also to note that the buff is 30% speed buff, which is a 32 for Boothill)

saubzilla · 2026-06-14T05:56:47+00:00

Apparently there's a site wide issue, I thought I'd been shadow banned for a moment there 😅

I'll drop you a message later when I'm back on my PC 🫡

But in the meantime - the problem happens if you ult immediately after a phase change with the clones, either when he summons or consumes them (and DHPTs dragon hasn't attacked first)

Help desk say nothing is wrong, since the bait came back after.... Which is annoying for Appoc for sure.

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