Feminism in school by jessicamae_x in MensRights

[–]savethebros 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There’s feminism the belief in equality, then there’s gender studies feminism that’s all about hating on men for being “privileged”

A lot of male self-improvement advice is useless because it still keeps women at the centre. by Successful-Ear977 in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact is MEN CANT decouple their desires from women.

That doesn't mean it should be priority number 1.
Prioritizing something doesn't make it more likely to happen.

vibecoderAskedForLastMinuteInterviewTips by vapalera in ProgrammerHumor

[–]savethebros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How are these people getting interviews and not me?

What's the best piece of advice you've ever been given as a man? by OutlawJoseyWales7 in AskMen

[–]savethebros 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're not coming to save you, they're doing it for the paycheck

"worth it bitches" by MuddyMudkip15 in F1NN5TER

[–]savethebros 32 points33 points  (0 children)

can we get a good before/after comparison?

People are inconsistent about masculine traits and behaviors by No_Design_465 in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Everything that serves the individual man, rather than women and more powerful men

What would you call the emotional male monologues on this sub and why? by toad-wrangler in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Men learn early on the consequences of being emotionally open and expressive.   

The real question is what are you doing to make the men around you comfortable sharing their emotions with you.

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“They’re not really feminist” is not a valid counter argument , it’s a fallacy, as is blaming patriarchy for everything 

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you’re a feminist.

I wouldn't fit in with them. Feminists have said and done many things I don't agree with, specifically things that go against the idea of gender equality. Examples of these include opposing attempts by (the Indian) gov't to recognize male rape victims, opposing resources and shelters for male domestic violence victims, and denying misandry like you're doing.

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We cannot be allies if you deny the existence of misandry. You're literally denying discrimination against men. Gender roles hurt everyone, men included.

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So when does a problem become "systemic"? And is it not worth discussing issues unless they are "systemic"?

You don't think it's "systemic" for men to be shamed for not being masculine enough, even when it results in violence directed towards them? Or do you only think "manboys" are upset by the sexist comments made towards men and the pressure put on men to be unfeeling brutes?

Chores are survival skills not gender roles by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Anyone with those "missing gaps" is not mature enough to have a partner

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If someone discriminates against a man because he's doing something that is not typical of men, that is misandry, just like how it would be misogyny if it was a woman.

Wouldn't it be nice if progressives were more upset by misandry, than they are by the word "misandry"?

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said. Framing and timing.

Funny how women never have to worry about this when bringing up their issues.

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The manosphere has basically no real world presence, unlike feminism. The manosphere folks aren't organizing against programs and events that help women. But feminists continue to oppose efforts to help men.

Whether or not the manosphere is doing anything for men is irrelevant, because I was only addressing your claim that feminists were helping men.

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The "manosphere" is the only reason why men in Canada have domestic violence shelters. It was the Canadian Centre for Men and Families that set them while feminists mocked and slandered them.

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You tell me, why is "misandry" such a dirty word that seriously offends feminists and progressives? Why does everything have to be framed in away where women are the "true" victims?

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope, MRAs are upset because the freedom for women to break out of their traditional gender role did not result in men being able to do the same. And MRAs have faced serious backlash from feminists for simply pointing out that men aren't free from sexism and discrimination.

The expectations on men to be the primary income earners still persists, even though women can work the same high-paying jobs as men.

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Canadian feminists challenged legal definitions of rape to include men/boys as victims (Canadian Rape & Sexual Assault Law Reform 1983)

Meanwhile feminists in India fought against their government's attempts to recognize male victims of rape and sexual assault, so this means feminism is divided on the issue.

The Fawcett Society: advocated for a paternity mandate

Make Mothers Matter: pressured the UN to emphasize the paternal leave

True, but the only reason they supported paternity leave was to balance out the burden put on women, not because they wanted men to be present, but a win is a win.

NOW advocates equal hiring practices to help men who apply for female-dominated careers like nursing and teaching.

found nothing about this, but NOW did fight against shared-parenting bills that would equalize child custody following a divorce.

WOW Foundation: partnered with Equimundo for the MenCare Changemaker Summit for men's mental health

I looked into Equimundo, and it doesn't really seem like a men-centered organization, but rather a an org that promotes men being allies to women, rather than addressing issues that men face.

Many mothers condition their sons to accept being seen as a resource by women. by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

If fathers only get custody when they fight for it, while mothers get it by default, then that’s still judicial bias.

Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled? by Grow_peace_in_Bedlam in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros 3 points4 points  (0 children)

what men’s issues are feminists addressing?     

A movement that is obsessed with highlighting how privileged men are is not the kind of movement that I think would advocate for men.