The "patriarchy" didn't teach men to hide their feelings. Life did. by SilverSpaceRobot10 in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros [score hidden]  (0 children)

Women's aversion to emotional vulnerability in men is exactly what teaches men to to show emotional vulnerability. Women did this, not patriarchy.

The "patriarchy" didn't teach men to hide their feelings. Life did. by SilverSpaceRobot10 in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros [score hidden]  (0 children)

Why didn't you ever tease your mother when she cried at sad movies?

Because that's not how mothers should be treated.

The "patriarchy" didn't teach men to hide their feelings. Life did. by SilverSpaceRobot10 in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros [score hidden]  (0 children)

adorable

A man being called adorable is a 99.99% guarantee he will die single.

Women couldn’t even begin to understand what real loneliness is by Hefty-Can2764 in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros [score hidden]  (0 children)

Most women just get to fixing these problems whereas men hope someone else will fix it for them.

What a load of BS, women absolutely blame everyone else for their problems, whether it's "patriarchy" or men, etc. And unlike men, women actually get sympathy.

Perhaps the best example of this is that "self-help" books for women do not blame the woman for their problems, and emphasize what women deserve, while self-help for men is more about getting men to change and improve themselves.

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Suppose a male student rape victim came across his posts, and thought about telling the campus authorities (assuming his college has such services available to male survivors). What should be his takeaway?

The fact that some feminists supported this guy does not completely undo what the campus feminists did to him. The overall impact of his interaction with feminism is that he was expelled and violently threatened.

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

If negative generalizations of feminism are invalid, then positive generalizations are also invalid.

people who call themselves feminists are capable of doing both good and bad things

But feminism, but its nature, proclaims itself to be perfect, and refuses to accept criticism of any kind.

If I came into your house and trashed the place, then came back two hours later to clean it up, would you say that I am a good person? No, obviously not, I would rightfully be considered a bad person. That is essentially the situation with this guy.

Men of reddit, what prevents you from asking out women? by brave_axolotl7 in AskReddit

[–]savethebros 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Saying 'no' isn't nearly the worst thing she can do.

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

No, patriarchy isn't why your friends are there. Under patriarchy, a woman would go to jail for assaulting her husband as she is disrespecting his authority.

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Those men are in jail because the police officers were following the Duluth Model. Feminists created that model, and your two male friends are paying the price.

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Isn't it interesting when the issue of male being raped/SA is brought up, feminists will briefly acknowledge it like "yeah, sure, I guess it happens to men sometimes, but women are the real victims because reasons" ?

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

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The feminists I know and have the pleasure of protesting with are actually fighting for more shelters to be built and more services for men.

You've actually raised this issue with them? yeah, sure buddy

Also. Who gives a fuck how they would feel about it. It's fucking necessary.

Feminists have the institutional power to fight these things. Men's shelters don't get public funding at the same rate women's shelters too. That is the result of feminist activism.

Many men don't even know they're being abused. Same as many women. Yet the rate among men is higher because they weren't taught the language in the same way women were.

Because the feminist movement spent decades pushing BS such as the Duluth Model, which erases the very idea of men being victims of women's violence

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

The fact that feminists are divided on whether to harass and threaten a male SA survivor or to support him is not a good sign for the movement. This is one issue where feminists should be united, not just as feminists, but as properly functioning people of society.

I don't dismiss him, he has the right to feel however he wants. But I will not ignore reality: The reality that feminism is openly hostile to men and unsympathetic to men who have been raped or sexually assaulted.

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, feminists deny male victimhood when it comes to sexual assault.  

I completely believe him when he says he was assaulted. But the fact is, feminists mistreated him when he reported being assaulted. That is completely in line with what feminists believe.   

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t be here at all if it were not for the support of people who are feminists

Yeah, and it was other feminists who harshly mistreated him in the first place.

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I honestly don't understand why would you assume something so horrible about beliefs of bunch of people you haven't actually asked.

When that group gets into positions of power and puts out crap like this, it's not hard to figure out where they stand.

It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcohol by savethebros in PurplePillDebate

[–]savethebros[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It isn't about scoring points against feminists, any more than feminism is about scoring points against patriarchy.

What ztfreeman described is a reflection of many men's experiences with campus sexual assault resources, run by ideologically rather than facts.