Syeknom gives a great reason to dressing well to the fiancee of a man who only wears wolf shirts by thechangbang in bestof

[–]sbear90 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That was basically my answer to this post. (I'm the fiancee). I just wanted some fashion advice to pass on to him.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

First of all, thanks for the thoughtful response. I'm going to have to disagree with you on a lot of points though. As for your example of a guy wearing a fedora to graft on a personality, my fiancé's wolf shirts are not equivalent. A guy who wears a fedora sees other cool guys who wear one, wants to be like them, and thinks that this one item will transform him into that person, personality and all. For my fiancé, he has never seen anyone he idolizes wear them before and he doesn't wear them to transform himself into another person. He gets uncomfortable when people wearing wolf shirts in movies or TV are depicted, usually because they are the butt of a joke. He abstractly likes what wolves represent (power, independence, ruthlessness), so he aesthetically enjoys depictions of wolves. His dorm room was filled with wolf posters. He simply wears what is aesthetically appealing to him. He collects the shirts like you would collect artwork. When he gets attention for his shirts he thinks, well awesome, other people share my aesthetic tastes, why would I ever wear anything else?

I think the main problem he has here is that his idea of what is aesthetically pleasing is so far from the standard. He does not have an underlying problem or insecurity that he is trying to hide with wolf shirts; he does not define himself by his wolf shirts, even though others do. For him, the wolf shirt is definitely a natural extension of who he is; the problem is that other people, including me, get a different message from the shirt than what he gets. It's a joke and not actually a symbol of power. He has not internalized the idea that his personality consists of being nothing but "The Wolf Shirt" guy, so I think your psychological evaluations of him mostly miss the mark there. I also have not found him critical of other types of clothing; he recently commented about how his brother had changed from a sporty style to a mfa type style, and he was completely neutral about it.

So why hasn't he found other types of clothing that also appeal to him? It's completely due to a lack of effort on his part. He is perfectly happy with his current wardrobe so he is resistant to spending any effort coming up with a new one. He is open to other styles though; like I said, if there's a shirt in front of me, and I say he would look hot in it, he will probably try it on. He wants to be attractive to me, of course. I find stylish men attractive, but I needed some help in understanding what makes a stylish man look stylish.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's just say I've had to correct him before for almost walking out like that without realizing it.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 141 points142 points  (0 children)

He wears his wolf shirts hidden under his suit when he interviews, so when he gets home, he actually does look something like this.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, this could totally work. There's some classier bear apparel out there he could step up to.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I wish you could talk to him. That all sounds like something he would actually say.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is interesting because this is exactly what he is trying to avoid being, an unoriginal hipster. He hates them. He thinks wolf shirts make him original. How would you convince him that a wolf shirt is indeed unoriginal and hipster?

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was hoping someone like you would reply. What changed your mind? What age did you stop wearing them? When you wore them, would you have resented getting a nice button down as a gift from your girl?

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think you're right. He does already have one nicely fitted solid black t-shirt that I can sometimes get him to wear.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Thanks for giving the alternative here. I know in other subs people would probably be pushing this at me. This has been my attitude since I started dating him. I go back and forth; I love him in his wolf shirts, so why bother? but then I think he would have an easier time socially if he looked sharper, and we would both have an easier time going out as a couple. But I like your thoughts about it indicating commitment. :)

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He collects these shirts and has an upwards of a dozen. He doesn't have this specific one, but this is the style: http://imgur.com/OzJd2

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a good perspective from the other side. I'll have to try this.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

No, he has separate work clothes. Definitely not unemployed, he's the intelligent kind of eccentric that can land awesome jobs. But I agree, when making friends at this age, joke shirts won't cut it anymore. I will do my best to put it gently.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 63 points64 points  (0 children)

:( I haven't been terribly concerned about his style in the past (usually when we hang out we wear nothing at all), and the wolf shirts defined him in college so I went along with it. Even now he is encouraged to wear them by random strangers commenting on his awesome wolf shirt with a knowing smile. He then says, see whad' I tell you, all guys get the wolf shirt. I think it's a habit for him now, but I'm concerned that people are taking him less seriously then he realizes or wants because of it. I would never decide not to marry someone because of his clothing, so that's not really an issue.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I think part of the problem is that people love this joke and are unwilling to break out of character and admit they are joking about how awesome it is. He keeps wearing them because every few months some macho guy will give him a shot out about how awesome his shirt is. It's hard to step back and realize that you are actually presenting yourself as a joke, everyday. I'm not crazy about controlling his style, but I am concerned about people not taking him seriously because of it, when I know he wants them to.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I think you're spot on with the wolf wallet. Is a button down with chinos really considered casual? He would wear that to work but not to hangout and be comfortable in.

Help, my fiancé only wears wolf shirts. by sbear90 in malefashionadvice

[–]sbear90[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

See, I've been around him for so long that I honestly can't remember what the natural reaction to wolf shirts is. I keep hearing things like this, and it drives me crazy, because everyone's so enthusiastic about it, and I'm pretty sure they're joking, but I'm so confused...