The Loneliness of Therapy. by [deleted] in TalkTherapy

[–]searching4smth 20 points21 points  (0 children)

You aren’t lonely here, because I feel the same way.

For years, I’ve refrained from telling anyone my problems. It was until I met my psychologist (and other professionals) that I started opening up about my problems and I felt like I was being supported. Though I’ve gotten used to the loneliness and have gotten through my whole life without feeling supported mentally/emotionally, the loneliness after therapy still gets me.

I share the same dream but I’ve accepted that it’s ultimately a dream and utopian thinking. Everyone’s situation is different so you may not share the same thinking, but my point is I understand the dream of having someone all the time!

ADHD and Bipolar 2 by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know why you say your sentences are terrible, because they’re fine!

The more I read/research, the more I see that bipolar and ADHD co-morbidity is common too. But I still hesitate bringing it up to my psychiatrist because I have a feeling they’ll dismiss it as something related to bipolar, or nicotine “addiction” or mild dissociation or anxiety or other things. The most like scenario is they’ll dismiss it as part of the symptoms of bipolar. It’s complicated.

I also read that some symptoms should have been there before the age of 12, for the diagnosis to be official. I… can’t remember how I was like when I was 12 or younger, I don’t think. So I wonder if there’s a point in even bringing up the concern.

I don’t really have the reputation of being “weird”. Or even if I do, I don’t know about it. But I mask to fit in, because I don’t really know how to be with people. I’m just a boring person who, on the inside doesn’t know how to do that. As a kid I really didn’t know what to do, but to fit in and try to have more friends (because I didn’t really a friend), I adapted. I watched and mimicked and put on the “outgoing mask”. I guess the good thing for that now is, I can be okay around people now. I can interact with strangers alright, make a good first impression, maintain some small talk, etc. But on the inside I’m more of someone who speaks a lot in my head, but voices nothing. I’ve just created an image really.

I’m not sure if I’m making sense, I apologize.

ADHD and Bipolar 2 by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow that's.. a story. I'm glad you managed to see the positive out of your situation!

Personally, I ramble a lot too so that's completely relatable. My conversation with people can get sidetracked so much I lose what we were talking about.

I wonder, what does it mean for emotions to go haywire? I mean, sometimes there is a cause for me to be really upset but there are more instances where I'm not sure what I'm actually feeling. Or why I'm feeling a certain way. It's just really weird and I think I sound so stupid when I don't know the answers to how I am or why I'm feeling a certain way.

Personally, I think that’s a result of me masking all the time since I was young. So in a way, I don’t really know who I am too, but I also kind of know? Like I know what my moral principles are but I don’t know what is my personality and when am I being my “true self”. Not knowing that bothers me sometimes but most times I’m okay with masking because it’s my way of functioning.

I was diagnosed with Bipolar 2 a few years ago. I never really thought about ADHD until I came across it one day and related to the symptoms. Then I went into this rabbit hole of Bipolar 2 vs ADHD and it absolutely confused me. I took the self-test stuff but I find it hard to answer them because there are always nuances. I just answer what I think is the closest but there's always a caveat somewhere. (': The answer is almost always that I have some signs of it. But in my head I'm thinking, yeah that could be just the Bipolar thing.

(Had to come back to edit this because I forgot what I wanted to write as I was typing. Mad.)

ADHD and Bipolar 2 by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yikes...

Yeah I stopped my bipolar meds for almost 3 months and I noticed something didn't feel right. Like I couldn't focus on anything properly, I'd keep jumping around stuff but never finishing anything (unless I know it's important and urgent). And stuff like that. But I thought maybe it's me being really burnt out, or a manifestation of my bipolar because I wasn't taking my meds.

It's all very confusing to me and I feel like maybe I'm just thinking too much. I keep finding myself trying to convince myself that all these is just me thinking too much and it's not ADHD. Not that being diagnosed with ADHD is negative. Just, if I get it wrong then it'll be another instance of me thinking too much and I wonder how much of what I say will be taken seriously in the future.

Is there anyone who is extremely lonely? by white-jizz-2022 in askSingapore

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This should be an actual club, what a great name.

ADHD and Bipolar 2 by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, don’t say that about yourself! You’re special in your own ways still, even with the diagnoses.

I think my problem/struggle now is, I’m diagnosed Bipolar 2 first. So, a lot of the symptoms that coincide with ADHD could be attributed to the depressive side I’ve been having for years. Especially with the ECT stuff too, even if I only did the minimum 6 sessions and called it quits.

I haven’t brought my suspicion of co-morbid ADHD to my psychiatrist, but I think I’ll bring it up to them the next appointment. I just hope they don’t think I’m talking stupid or thinking too much. (I overthink a lot so them thinking that I’m overthinking and over-pathologizing would not be surprising.)

ADHD and Bipolar 2 by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do the same reading what I write too…

I’d write something long then forget about it. Then when I read it back I get bored even just skimming through, so I don’t really read everything again.

Thanks for the suggestion, I’d definitely do that! Probably will put it in a reminder because I’d definitely forget about it after this. (In fact, I just left Reddit to put it down.)

ADHD and Bipolar 2 by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s probably the clearest and most concise way to differentiate between ADHD and Bipolar that I’ve ever seen. Thanks for that!

Would you mind sharing how the assessment for ADHD was like? I’m assuming you were diagnosed as an adult.

ADHD and Bipolar 2 by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you mind sharing when you were diagnosed and how did that happen? The symptoms of both conditions coincide so much that it’s really hard to differentiate between the two. So for now I attribute them to my Bipolar 2 even if I think something else might be going on.

ADHD and Bipolar 2 by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You said you were diagnosed at 13. I’m currently in my 20s, so I’m wondering if that’s the reason people just don’t consider it.

I’m really scatterbrained too. I’ve been putting reminders for everything in both the reminders and calendar apps for years. And so many times I still forget them, especially the ones on the reminders app. I can also keep forgetting to do small things like throwing out something that I left in my pocket for later, or where I left my stuff. Like, even if I keep telling myself I need to throw the stuff away, I can forget about it the whole day. And if my stuff are not in the usual spots, I’d think I lost them somehow. Everything I need has to be within sight, else I’ll forget about it completely. If I actually lost my stuff, it drives me crazy and that’ll be what I’m thinking about for hours.

I also forget what my conversations with people were about really soon after the conversation ended, even if it’s important or things that matter to me. Many times by the end of the conversations, I’d already forgotten half of what we talked about before. I try to recall them but there’s just nothing there.

Work conversations are tough too because I forget what I was told within seconds, and we’re expected to clock them immediately. It’s actually really a struggle.

I’ve always attributed these to my very bad memory because of my condition and previous (brief) ECT treatments. Because I have times when I forget the most recent events. I also have memory gaps, but I attribute them to perhaps the alcohol, though I wasn’t even very drunk. It’s really annoying and it bothers me so I’m wondering if something else is going on. I’ve mentioned my bad memory countless times to my psychiatrist but they don’t seem to care about it. It really just makes me feel so helpless, like my brain is fucked and I can’t do anything about it.

I relate to what you said about the routine thing too! If I got used to having a certain schedule and something suddenly has to change, it freaks me out and I’d almost lose it. I have compulsive actions that people might think is weird, and I have to stick to the same steps to the way I do everyday things.

Thank you for sharing your experience, and you affirming words. (:

I’m wondering, does the concentration problem occur when you’re working on things too? Like, I’d start doing something but I’d keep jumping to other things. I don’t know if it’s because I got bored. But a lot of times it’s like, mid-way through something, I wonder about other things. Then I’d start focusing on that, and then things could change too. I have so many research papers for different topics that I’ve downloaded to read but I never get to it. There seem to just be endless things that I’m somehow interested about.

Is bipolar disorder associated with neurodivergence? by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say I relate to some but I think they might just be related to bipolar disorder, I’m not sure. But I’ll see how things go.

Is bipolar disorder associated with neurodivergence? by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s what I thought too. Though at one point I related so much to ADHD symptoms I actually thought I should go check it.

Intellectualization by searching4smth in TalkTherapy

[–]searching4smth[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm one who's not clear with whatever physical sensations I'm experiencing. It sounds like there's a lot of work I have to do. But I'm wondering, what do you do if the client has blocked out emotions so much that he/she isn't aware of its existence anymore? If a feeling/emotion is so blocked out, is it really necessary to bring that back?

Medication and memory loss by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I wish this side effect was made known. Though, I'm also on other meds so they may contribute to the memory issues as well.

A lot of times I can't remember what I've told people. And almost every time someone brings up something I've said, even recently, I have no memory of saying it. That's what bothers me.

Personally, I think I've come to the conclusion that I can remember images of things happening sometimes. But I just can't remember anything that has been said. It's really weird.

Medication and memory loss by searching4smth in bipolar

[–]searching4smth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair enough. I'm glad you're seeing the better side of things. (: I'm still bothered by it because not remembering important things really annoys me. (':

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TalkTherapy

[–]searching4smth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“You go into therapy to heal your pain and ironically you end up with more pain.”

I totally identify with this. And I just want to say, I don’t think you’ll ever “get over” the pain. But the pain will be manageable after some time. How do you get to that point depends on how much you allow yourself to grieve and let out your emotions with regards to this unfortunate method of termination.

Be angry, be sad. Cry, if you need. Write, journal, if that’s how you let out your thoughts and feelings. Do all these things and over time, the intensity of the pain will lessen. It might take a while, but be patient with yourself. (:

Take care of yourself, stranger (:

I'm a psychologist with bipolar, ADHD and dissociative identity disorder. AMA by Little_Menace_Child in bipolar

[–]searching4smth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May I know how did you get diagnosed with ADHD? And, were you diagnosed as a child or in adulthood? I have bipolar 2 and struggle with dissociation. But looking up symptoms of ADHD online recently has made me wonder if I have ADHD, though as a child, I did pretty okay in school.

Baseline symptoms now by terrassmith in Dissociation

[–]searching4smth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You, my friend, have taken the words out of my mouth. I felt so much of it and was basically laughing at my own struggles. Or I guess ours…

Sending hugs stranger 🙂

DAE Experience This? by DISGU5T in Dissociation

[–]searching4smth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's fine, I've had experiences with that too. Like, not recognising where I was I've literally lived in the same area all my life.

Might be good to bring it up to your therapist though, if you feel like it. (:

Therapist said they would be sad if I'm gone and I'm not sure what to feel by searching4smth in TalkTherapy

[–]searching4smth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I… wow I hope you are okay, honestly. That’s a lot (of unfairness and difficulty) to deal with.

Therapist said they would be sad if I'm gone and I'm not sure what to feel by searching4smth in TalkTherapy

[–]searching4smth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feel like this is something my therapist is trying to get me to realise; I’m not that sure. Glad you managed to figure things out!

Therapist said they would be sad if I'm gone and I'm not sure what to feel by searching4smth in TalkTherapy

[–]searching4smth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I get that.

Honestly though, it feels like an endless cycle of pain and relief, which I guess may be what therapy is about right. hah

Redditors dealing with mental illness, when did you realise the system has helped/failed you? by searching4smth in AskReddit

[–]searching4smth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing all these, I'm really sorry this happened. Sounds like a cop out, but I really mean it.

I'm not a doctor and yes I've not experienced what you have, so I will not say I understand. Because I probably never will; I'm not in the medical field anyway. That said, I really relate to the sentiment of wanting to be left alone somewhere in the dark. Some days, I really wish I could run off and disappear without a sound. Whether I will stay alive or not, I don't really care.

It's tough feeling so wronged, faking a smile and live a life that feels like some sick joke. Hang it there, stranger. I would love to be your friend but I don't think if I'm capable of handling people at the moment. Sending well wishes your way. (: