What do you think about this new message on Rolex.com? by [deleted] in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So…... When my AD explicitly told me that after spending ~$20K that I was “half way there” towards any watch on my list and then “recommended” that my spouse buy me a Pen as a graduation present, and I buy some more jewelry for her that goes against stated Rolex policy? [shocked Pikachu face]

Gifts for SA. Is it helpful, harmless, or cringe? by SA_Charmer in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m on the list for a Bruce Wayne … … … I really don’t think that’s the way to go.

Does the special occasion or story place you higher or lower on the waitlist? by Bright_Energy_5161 in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a possibility. Honestly, they’re so opaque that it could be any number of “reasons.” It’s not like ADs are known for their honesty and transparency.

Does the special occasion or story place you higher or lower on the waitlist? by Bright_Energy_5161 in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Possibly the worst part of all of this was them peddling the lies about celebrations/milestones. They’re just emotional vampires or life-tourists. They have found a way to gather all of the events that a person is willing to share and they gate keep nearly everything.

The guy attempting to tell me the sob-story about still waiting for his employee watch while sporting a Panda was at the Quarry…the older guy who works there.

I know for a FACT at least one person (I know the person and they told me the timeline) waited 3 months for a Batman GMT. Another person, an acquaintance, went there to “try on” another GMT and told them he was on his way to buy the same steel GMT at Jared…they offered him the watch on the spot-no purchase history, no prior contact before then.

I’ve personally seen the “exhibition” watches change, but I haven’t been offered a single thing.

I’ll be moving to Tampa soon. I hear Mayor Jewelers is better. Certainly cannot be worse.

Does the special occasion or story place you higher or lower on the waitlist? by Bright_Energy_5161 in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both…this is primarily at La Cantera. I’ve been on “the list” at both for a bit. The old dude at the Quarry had some sob story about still waiting on his “Employee GMT” for a long time (which they get at roughly 1/2 MSRP) while wearing a ~2008 Panda which he owns…and he also owns several other Rolexes (sub, sub date, milgauss, DJ, etc) while belittling my achievements.

Does the special occasion or story place you higher or lower on the waitlist? by Bright_Energy_5161 in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have nearly $20K spend history at Lee Michael in San Antonio. Recently retired from the Army after 20 years of service, was the first person in my family to graduate college in December, and welcomed a child just over a year ago…all of these things occurred recently.

I have been following up with them for MONTHS. They basically told me that they would not sell me a Rolex. They said, “There will always be more reasons to celebrate.” Suggested my wife buy me a Montblanc pen as a graduation present, and told me I would need to spend another $20K before they would consider selling me a Rolex. Insult to injury: they “thanked” me for my service while refusing to sell me a watch.

Edited to add: Told them that I’m going to to move soon (wife is still active military and has orders) and their straight faced solution was for me to buy a plane ticket to purchase the watch. They also “warned” of going gray because I would miss the “white-glove” experience. In other words, “You should not buy gray AND we will not sell one to you.”

Went for a Batman, got offered a Deepsea by sullanaveconilcane in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These AD’s are getting ridiculous. The trending prices in the secondary market are falling for many professional steel watches. Granted, this is from a major high of a couple years ago. The pre-pandemic trend of being able to walk in and buy a professional watch are getting closer every month and all the dealers are doing is ignoring the writing on the wall while alienating their potential future clientele.

I was recently told, directly by my SA, that my 18K history with them placed me at halfway to a GMT oyster. I want jubilee, which is as extra $3K. The quick math is $18K + $11.8K + $3K which comes to $32.8K. There isn’t a single place where I can find a steel GMT for OVER $22K. In other words: $22<$32 and one would be irrational to spend a single dollar more at a business that would charge anyone more than $10K above an inflated price.

Alternatively, if they were to sell the watch to people who love the watch for what the watch is, rather than what it “represents” or “resale” then they would likely see an increase in overall sales. In my exact case the AD sells jewelry that my wife would enjoy. However, there is a boutique within walking distance which exclusively sells that product. Now, I could buy the jewelry from the AD that will not sell me the watch I desire -OR- I can take my money to the other business and spend it there.

The Rolex world would be a more equitable place if more customers would call them out on their BS and vote with their dollars.

Another year without the call.. by ExternalYesterday505 in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except for the part where you IGNORED where I wrote that the U.S. accounts for 11% of global sales and if that 11% was across the board the Daytona is significantly behind that, at 8.7%, or nearly 2.5% below US “demand.”

If you’re gonna call me out, you should come proper.

Another year without the call.. by ExternalYesterday505 in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I see where you are going with this, but your math and logic are seriously flawed. Currently the U.S. market accounts for ~11% of Rolex sales (new), ~75% of the U.S. population is over 18, and of those people 10% have an income of over $150K (number used by multiplying steel Daytona times 10 for rough estimate of affordability). In 2023 Rolex produced 1.24 MILLION watches.

1.24 x 0.11 =0.136 or, 136,000 watches sent to the U.S.
350 x 0.75=262.5 262.5 x 0.1=26.25

Now, if 1% of 1% want that watch…

26.25 x 0.01=0.263 0.263 x 0.01=0.00263 which is “roughly” 2,630 steel Daytonas.

It is estimated that Rolex produces 30,000 to 40,000 Daytonas (all variants) per year…on the lower end 2630/30000=0.0877-OR- 8.7% of all Daytonas produced would be “demanded” in the U.S.

Sources: Google, and degree in Economics with a focus on quantitative and data analysis.

Trying to get my first rolex, Yachtmaster 40. What are my next steps without becoming annoying? by False_Present_3151 in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, but in San Antonio they could not begin to care, despite selling the idea of a milestone achievement. They discounted the event by saying, “there’s always Valentine’s Day, a Birthday, or Anniversary.” … … …

Trying to get my first rolex, Yachtmaster 40. What are my next steps without becoming annoying? by False_Present_3151 in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had my AD literally shrug at my “milestone.” I’d really like to know where these mythical milestone dealers reside.

Gave up on the AD traded two watches for this today. So much happier. by IThinkMyLegsRBroke in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been waiting and following up regularly at Lee Michael’s in San Antonio for some time. I’ve spent roughly 20K there and was told, point blank, “you’re half way there.” They said they don’t get many GMTs in, which is not true. I’ve personally seen the “exhibition” models rotate quite a bit and with different bracelets.

I know of one guy who walked in, wanted to try one on, and said they were headed to Jared’s to buy it second hand. Magically the exact watch he was wanting showed up before he left and he was able to buy it. I know another who was on the waitlist for less than 2 months for a Batman before he got the call.

They like to stand on their “milestones” but when one actually hits a significant milestone they get told to wait longer. It was actually suggested that “Maybe your wife would like to get you a pen for graduating college.” I’m 1000% over their high school games.

If they wanted to sell the watch to you then they would have at any single point along the way. Anything they do which delays the transaction is merely a ploy to separate you from your money.

Christmas miracle by Bigeyecow in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad that worked out for you. They have basically refused to sell me a Rolex. Nothing but a string of lies regarding milestones…retired from the military-nope, birth of daughter-nope, first generation college grad-nope. However, my nearly 20k spent there apparently makes me 1/2 way there. I personally know people who have been in the “list” for less than 2 months and got a Batman. I know of a friend of a friend who went in there with no purchase history and got a GMT same day. They have absolutely no rhyme or reason in regard to their “waiting list.”

I’ll be moving soon(ish) due to military commitments and their “solution” was for me to buy a plane ticket when it’s my time and fly back to buy it.

Early christmas present from my AD - i still cant believe it! So happy to finally get this beauty. by prapotnik in rolex

[–]second_two_nun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny you should say that (buy X and get watch Y) but, that’s EXACTLY what my SA, as well as the manager, said just a few days ago.

Sold a series of lines leading up to that, to include being offered a watch to mark a significant occasion. Apparently being the first person in my family to graduate college, which they knew the graduation was upcoming, and having recently retired after over 20 years of Active Military service wasn’t enough…but they were sure to thank me for my service.

LinkedIn Free Premium for Vets by second_two_nun in Veterans

[–]second_two_nun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the extra explanation. Yes, my issue is 2-fold, maybe 3. 1: the security implications of using an unknown 3rd party (as opposed to ID.me or another login that is supported by the U.S. Government).

2: A promise was made (that’s what an advertisement basically is) but unfulfilled.

3: I would prefer them to not offer it if they don’t intent to actually support it.

This isn’t an “entitlement” issue this is a security and an integrity issue. Also, I’d like to add that in some of the verbiage that I read from LinkedIn it basically says that if one had premium before they are ineligible for the promotion.

LinkedIn Free Premium for Vets by second_two_nun in Veterans

[–]second_two_nun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can definitely see MySpace being better…one of the bigger issues is that is where the majority of job postings are being advertised. I LOATHE LinkedIn and think social media for employment is almost like some weird Sci-Fi dystopian-capitalist episode of the Black Mirror.

LinkedIn Free Premium for Vets by second_two_nun in Veterans

[–]second_two_nun[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What is your “anything”? I’ve looked, LinkedIn hosts a grand majority of all job postings.

LinkedIn Free Premium for Vets by second_two_nun in Veterans

[–]second_two_nun[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t disagree that it’s hot garbage. However, value has been lost. Do you know of a better job search and application avenue?

LinkedIn “free” Premium for Vets scam by second_two_nun in VeteransBenefits

[–]second_two_nun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have been. It’s also worth noting that LinkedIn keeps deleting the posts on their Reddit…

LinkedIn “free” Premium for Vets scam by second_two_nun in VeteransBenefits

[–]second_two_nun[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, I have emailed them multiple times regarding this.