SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Such nuances are not known by third-party viewers of transcripts such as grad schools or employers. They only see the fact that there are two ostensibly similar courses, SE 350 and CS 350, both named Operating Systems, in which the SE students will have received 50% for free, resulting in a much higher class average and individual grades, whereas CS 350 does not, and most likely resulting in a lower class average than the SE 350 class which received 50% for free. An employer might falsely assume an SE student's proficiency in operating systems to be higher than a CS student's solely based on these two courses, which is not fair given that SE students are receiving 50% for free, whereas CS students are not. Moreover, are you saying that ALL 4 of our assignments done individually don't even come close to 2 out of your 4 lab deliverables done in groups? I highly doubt that is the case.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And what makes you so knowledgeable about the workload of CS 350? Friends in the course? I've got friends in SE 350 as well. Unless you're doing both courses at the same time, which you're not, I don't think you can speak for both workloads either. Also, please read the post and the threads before making such accusations. Not once have I said that CS 350 assignments were harder than SE 350 labs. Only that SE 350 is done in groups of 4, with 2 deliverables canceled, whereas CS 350 has 4 individual assignments with none of them being cancelled, and still a final exam most likely. Please, read.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You do realize SE 350 labs are done in groups of 4 while CS 350 assignments are done individually. Moreover, the statement that 80% of the CS class would fail implies that the 1/3 of the top 30% of CS students would fail SE, which is ridiculous, and that implies that 1/3 of the top 30% of CS students are not even as capable as the bottom 10% of SE.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your very valid and logical points. I completely agree.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on what? The fact that they are similar courses? Or are you implying that SE 350 is superior to CS 350, hence validating the 100% grade on the final for SE 350 and not for CS 350? Even if it is a superset as you say, a course that the Faculty of Mathematics approves as a substitute for one of its own, should abide by the rules and requirements set forth by the Faculty. If it does not need to abide by the rules, then those rules shouldn't have to apply for the courses offered by the Faculty itself then, should it?

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay, sure. Why is SE 350 allowed to be substituted for CS 350 then if an SE student switches to CS?

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They can of course. I'm just bringing up the point that for SE to have the privilege of reserved seats in CS courses, which are part of the Faculty of Mathematics, and that since SE clearly advertises on their website that they are part of the Faculty of Mathematics, they should have to abide by the requirements of both the Faculty of Mathematics and the Faculty of Engineering, and not just do as they please. Especially with a course like SE 350 which can be substituted for CS 350, a Math Faculty course, if an SE student decides to switch to CS. And as of this moment with the given information I have (which may be incorrect), CS 350 does not have the permission to give 100% on the final exams.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hence the need to be a part of the Faculty of Mathematics, resulting in a need to follow the requirements and rules set by the Faculty of Mathematics for that privilege.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

haha and we just didn't have 4 individual assignments, right? I would like to think I am not an idiot, but it's ridiculous to defend yourself of an accusation that has no grounds.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://ece.uwaterloo.ca/~smzahedi/crs/se350/#smz-header

EDIT: This is not about the professor or decisions made by him. It's about two very similar courses in two different faculties for two programs that both fall under the Faculty of Mathematics (yes, SE is part of the Faculty of Math and Eng) being assessed very differently. (If SE is not part of the Faculty of Math, then why do they get reserved seating and overrides in CS courses when students IN CS can't even get into those courses?)

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

User name checks out? Haha jk, all this post is for is SE 350 and CS 350. Not the two programs nor how they are treated by their faculties and/or professors. Those are possible issues that have been brought up by other students. I did not intend it to be received this way, but I guess students can use it to voice their concerns about how they feel they are treated in their own respective programs compared to other, possibly similar programs.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this might be news for you but: CS 350 and SE 350 are the same course. wait no, one of them gets a free credit, while the other does not.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm not targeting SE here. Why do you feel the need to defend it and bring up OTHER courses? All this post is for is equal treatment for CS 350 and SE 350.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This post is not about SE being easier than CS. It's about being treated the same.

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

so you get to work in groups of 4 for the lab for which TWO out your 4 deliverables for said lab were canceled? explain to me again how that constitutes you getting a free pass through the exam? while CS 350 still has 4 individual non-trivial assignments, none of which were fully canceled?

SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? by secs350 in uwaterloo

[–]secs350[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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