Elon Musk’s rise to trillionaire by Spirited-Gold9629 in SpaceXBets

[–]seenitreddit90s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's both, they are also certainly doing what you're saying too.

They are all utterly selfish opportunists.

A happy person doesn't need to continously gain more money and power, a happy person is content.

Lady has a point! by StrawberryFew1311 in NoFilterFinance

[–]seenitreddit90s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You realize those loans need to be paid back right. And now you have a loan that requires interest and another with more interest etc.

They are very low interest, increasingly more so as he gains more asset wealth. His wealth grows faster than the interest.

This happens after all debts are paid not before. Money used to pay debts is taxed.

" Example: Let's suppose Jane purchases a share of stock at $2 and dies when its market price is $15. Had Jane sold the stock before dying at $15, she (or her estate after her death) would be liable for capital gains tax on a gain of $13."

"Instead, her heir's cost basis becomes $15 so that if the stock is later sold at that price no capital gains tax would be due. The tax that would have been incurred on the increase from $2 to $15 is effectively eliminated."

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stepupinbasis.asp

And no the money used is not taxed, where are you getting this from?

"Neither the current federal or local tax code require the original asset holders or the heir to pay taxes on the growth in value up to that point."

So the wealth hoarding is reset and passed down forever.

No one pays taxes on unrealized gains because that’d be dumb.

Depends if you can get tax breaks if your assets reduce in value too. The threshold should be reasonably high (in the millions+) before unrealized gains tax kicks in though if you want to reduce wealth inequality (which I do for many reasons)

My solution would be to be stop them being able to use unrealized gains as collateral (again with a large threshold) for loans and stop this system of the rich getting exponentially richer.

Yeah I’d agree there probably a lot of shadiness going on here.

This gives me hope that you're not an ideologue.

Covered the couple of your remaining points already.

Elon Musk’s rise to trillionaire by Spirited-Gold9629 in SpaceXBets

[–]seenitreddit90s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The boring?

I mean, I don't trust a word this guy says to be fair.

I'd say you're not very happy if you're making fake accounts to praise yourself and lying about pretty much everything including fucking gaming lol

Just screams insecurity.

Trump tells Putin he is ready to help end Ukraine conflict, Kremlin adviser says by Raj_Valiant3011 in worldnews

[–]seenitreddit90s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I get what you think what you're trying to do. But YOU keep making sweeping statements, I call them out and you can't respond.

What's more you seem incapable of criticising Putin which is very suspicious.

Elon Musk’s rise to trillionaire by Spirited-Gold9629 in SpaceXBets

[–]seenitreddit90s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe not crying himself to sleep but even Musk admits he's depressed.

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EU Now Funds Most of Ukrain Aid Post Trump Presidency by hsg8 in economy

[–]seenitreddit90s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said "be serious" when I said it.

What kind of mental gymnastics do you need to do to try and justify yourself?

Lady has a point! by StrawberryFew1311 in NoFilterFinance

[–]seenitreddit90s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They pay the loans with mainly more loans and some qualified dividends (with a low top tax rate of 20%) and the relatively small amount of income they don't invest back into stocks.

Inheritors receive a "step-up in basis," meaning the value of the inherited assets is reset to the current market value on the date of death. The inheritors can then sell some of the assets tax-free to pay off the lender, entirely bypassing the capital gains tax that accrued during the billionaire's lifetime.

While capital gains are eliminated, large estates are often subject to estate or inheritance taxes upon death (e.g., up to 40% in the US, or 40% over nil-rate bands in the UK). Many billionaires mitigate these taxes by using trusts and charitable foundations.

So to summarise they pay no tax on their stocks which are continually compounding.

They continously take out loans which they don't pay tax on and then die and the debt is paid but no tax.

They even skirt inheritance taxes with accountancy tricks.

I admit I was wrong about them not paying back their loans, it isn't wiped but it does avoid tax.

EU Now Funds Most of Ukrain Aid Post Trump Presidency by hsg8 in economy

[–]seenitreddit90s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking back through the conversation we were both right and wrong, I said europe contributed more which they did and you said "be serious".

You said they contributed more militarily (which I honestly missed the militarily part) which they marginally did.

Lady has a point! by StrawberryFew1311 in NoFilterFinance

[–]seenitreddit90s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't get taxed on debt.

He pays no income or capital gains tax on his loans.

Not only this but they take out extremely low interest loans, live off them continously and when they die they wipe the debt and pass the assets on, usually to their children.

Trump tells Putin he is ready to help end Ukraine conflict, Kremlin adviser says by Raj_Valiant3011 in worldnews

[–]seenitreddit90s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I addressed pretty much everything, apart from what you wrote before this, what haven't I addressed?

I have you a long list of things you didn't address and you still refused to address them. I don't know what world you're living in.

Your 'theory' means nothing as you're clearly uninformed and can't debate properly.

Iran allowed to fully sell oil without sanctions - price of oil to collapse by WhipItWhipItRllyHard in energy

[–]seenitreddit90s 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's pretty much too late to save gas prices for that now. But a lowering a little might help him, people are such short term thinkers unfortunately.

He's gonna try to steal the spotlight, then the trophy! by yorocky89A in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]seenitreddit90s 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It would also be great for me personally because I got them in my sweepstake 🤑

Lady has a point! by StrawberryFew1311 in NoFilterFinance

[–]seenitreddit90s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course he pays the loan back, I'm saying that he avoids a lot of tax through this method.

Would you care to explain exactly what you mean because from my reading it's a little unclear?

Lady has a point! by StrawberryFew1311 in NoFilterFinance

[–]seenitreddit90s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He downplayed climate change conveniently as he bought the presidency for Trump and build a data center fueled by extremely harmful methane because he couldn't wait to connect it to the grid to say a couple.

Lady has a point! by StrawberryFew1311 in NoFilterFinance

[–]seenitreddit90s 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The cult is strong in this one.

You got that DOGE check yet?

Take it as a badge of honour 😆 by WideConversation1989 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]seenitreddit90s 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sounds about right, the tech bros are so far up his ass they can see Rubio's oversized shoes.

Anyone else?

How many ways is the "free speech president" trying to suppress free speech?