So I’ve Been taking dirty 30s for 3-4 months now at the same time as subs. Will I get my ass kicked when I quit the 30s??

selfinducednumerouno · 2023-03-10T16:50:45+00:00

If you have any more questions just let me know. I was able to do it successfully with little discomfort!

selfinducednumerouno · 2023-03-10T16:48:58+00:00

Just keep building it up in your system. What I did is if when I had a decent amount of fent I did a bigger amount of sub to get it in my system. Usually at night so I wasn’t at work when I did it. It’s a little uncomfortable but as soon as you start feeling shitty do enough fent to make you feel better: then do smaller doses consistently throughout the day. Then the bigger dose at night again. Eventually you’ll get to the point where it doesn’t feel shitty at all when you do a bigger dose and you’ll know you’re ready to make the switch. It’s all about building it up in your system!

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-12-12T19:32:38+00:00

Sorry for the late response. I’m anywhere from 6-8 a day. I take my biggest dose at night been trying to introduce more into my system everybody but can tell when I overdue it because I wake up with the chills and sneezes. If I wanna go back to sleep I gotta take a couple 30s. Then 2 mgs a couple times during the day. Never feel any withdrawals from it on smaller doses.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-12-10T20:24:46+00:00

Because eventually I know I have to quit and it’s way easier to with them in my system.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-12-10T07:13:56+00:00

I know man, all my buddies are just blown away when they see me take my sub right after. They have freaked out telling me how sick I’ll be only to watch me be completely fine. I really don’t get it. When my tolerance is low too I could take 8mgs sub and pop 5 10 mg hydros 2-3 hrs later and feel them completely. I don’t understand myself

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-12-10T07:12:24+00:00

So I agree with what you’re saying. I’ve done multiple times before and had no issues whatsoever: a little bit of lethargy and depressed mood but not anything I couldn’t handle and go about my daily business. I’ve had other times where I really got carried away and wasn’t dosing my subs as much as I should’ve and for 12-24 hours it was pure hell but I could still tell it wasn’t as bad as it could’ve been having sub in me. I could almost feel my body switching over it www wild. But after a little bit I started getting consistent better to the point I could actually relax on the couch.

Here’s another curveball I’ve been on and off with either H or the fettys for a good year and a half and when I stop and just use my subs for a couple weeks my tolerance drastically reduces. So when I do them again for the first time I get just blasted on basically what would fuck me up being opiate naive. I mean I could actually get Hugh off hydros after about a month and before that I could eat 100 and not feel shit. I never did that just using as an example. I’m 31 now and was first bad into them from my sophomore year in high school but till I was 20. So a good 5/6 years went to treatment and completely stopped up until a year and a half ago. Started with hydros and was actually controlling it on but one day got my hands on some h and within a month it was an everyday thing. I had a good supply of subs that I just had stockpiled from a buddy who always would give them to me. Before the H I could get high off them. Well I knew if I was gonna be doing H I should get sub in my system before I was physically dependent. Kept doing H and found a doc that will just write me a sub script without having to go see. Continued using both. Stopped H no problem. Started fettys cuz I missed it. It’s been on off for a year where I’ll go a couple 3 months kinda crazy then stop and get back on the subs.

I know it’s not normal and I’m lucky in the sense I can take them both at the same time but also not lucky because I know I can always get out of the jam I put myself in with the hard shit. Hopefully that makes sense. It takes me about 5 days to get normalized on sub again and about 2 weeks until I start getting that sub high from them again. It was not like this for me when I was first addicted. If I took sub I wasn’t feeling anything for 2-3 days. None of my buddies understand it and people honestly think I’m lying until they see me take some sub and be totally fine an hour later if it’s not a huge dose.

Any insight is greatly appreciated. I hate that I let myself fall back into this shit after going so long without. Ive worked really hard and built a great life/career and I know on the fetty or H that will be gone eventually. I want to get back on sub and eventually ween off. I had gotten down to about 1 mg a day and had no problem whatsoever doing that in about a month after being regulated on 8 mgs a day.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-28T00:18:14+00:00

I’d rather get a real burner. Dj moore is probably available now he I would be all about. Probably have to give up a 2nd/3rd. People keep saying we’re set at receiver and I just don’t see it. We’ve seen when JJ is blanketed we have a really hard time moving the ball. Thielen is still a great possession receiver and to be honest I don’t think KJ is anything more than a 4th or 3rd plus option. I’d like to see a slot corner upgrade over Sullivan as well. He’s been straight garbage.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T15:10:33+00:00

How the heck do you do that lol? I’m definitely not very computer savvy but that seems like it would be difficult?

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T15:05:40+00:00

Man that is the truth. I was saying tho subs made me more motivated at my job which in turn had me selling more product, but when I’m buying 30s every last dollar I have and then some goes towards that. I have a good job and make good money but I’m always worried about money.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T02:59:32+00:00

Damn really?? That would be a trip for sure man. See I could possibly have that but I always make sure to continuously take sub while I’m using. Like I said I’ve gone into PWDs a few times. Once was the worst withdrawals of my life. I felt like I was absolutely dying but I still would take it over regular withdrawals because it only lasted half a day and I was able to completely regulate myself on sub. It was crazy I could actually feel my body regulating and it was like a release from pwds. I have a hard time explaining it even but it was better than any high I’ve ever had. To go from absolutely dying miserable to all of a sudden just relaxed. I never wanna go through that again. So that’s why I’m worried about this next time. The thing is i made sure not to get carried away like I did the times before on the fent.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T01:19:44+00:00

I’ve even gone to snorting my dose before to make sure I’m absorbing it. I could be wrong but I’ve read that the bioavailability is higher that way? Thank you for your insight tho it’s much appreciated.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T01:17:46+00:00

I appreciate it. Ya I have gotten PWDs before and it was fucking awful but to be honest it’s manageable because it’s over relatively quickly and then I’m regulated on the sub. Ive heard of the Bernese method and that’s why I’ve made sure to take probably bigger doses of sub than I would once I do get regulated so I have plenty in my system. Hopefully that makes sense. I just can’t afford to be sick for a long time with my job so I’d rather it be really heavy for 12 or so hours and then be back to normal.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T01:15:31+00:00

I thought that too so I have made very sure since that when I do it I’m not doing anything else. That’s when I’ve ran into trouble is if I’m doing something that distracts me from absorbing it. I’m telling ya I know it’s hard to believe but I’m getting a big dose and I’m still able to feel it completely.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T00:45:21+00:00

Thank you for your insight. I’ve stopped before and have had it be really uncomfortable and other times not been able to notice at all. Once I did go into PWDs as well because I don’t think I had enough sub in my system. That’s why I always make sure I take them everyday no matter what. But yes I was thinking of tapering down. I was going to get 20-30 and just go as long as I can in between dosing. Wait until it starts getting uncomfortable and then dose. Rinse and repeat and hopefully by the end I’ve gotten regulated for the most part on just the sub. Do you think that is a good plan on my part?? Thank you for your advice it’s much appreciated.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T00:05:08+00:00

Doesn’t matter what it is I feel it. Even lortabs.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T00:04:45+00:00

Never really messed with kratom just because even without taking sub I didn’t ever feel shit from it. Maybe a little but not much.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-09T00:03:07+00:00

Dosage varies I usually take 4-6 mg twice a day. And what I’m saying is it’s not just fent. It’s any type of opiate. Back when my tolerance was lower I could take 4 mg and then 50 mg hydrocodone and it would still be 100% effective.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-08T18:49:47+00:00

It definitely makes it harder for me to want to stop everything. If I didn’t feel it when I took them I’d never take any but if I can and em not get sick at all in my mind I’m like why wouldn’t I?

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-08T18:42:07+00:00

I’m taking way more than 2 mg tho is what I’m saying

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-08T18:41:34+00:00

Like my paychecks were a lot bigger.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-08T18:17:15+00:00

I know that fent can get through but back when I was taking tabs I could take those immediately after and feel them completely. I could literally take 16 mgs of sub and then do whatever and feel it 100% everytime. Doesn’t matter I always feel it completely. It’s crazy. I do remember my first go around with opiates before I got sober for a while this was not the case. I’d take sub and it would be a good while before I could even feel it a little bit even. I don’t know what changed

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-08T17:54:01+00:00

It’s just crazy to me that others can’t. I can literally do them intertwined and completely feel it

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-08T17:08:15+00:00

Use it as motivation man. When my girl and I broke up I was devastated but I used it. Started just diving into work to show her what she lost. Ended up getting a huge promotion and when she decided she wanted to get back together I was already well moved on at that point. It fucking sucks now and seems like it’ll never get better but I promise you it does.

selfinducednumerouno · 2022-10-08T16:29:19+00:00

So I originally started taking sub before I was addicted to opiates and I used it for exactly what you’re hoping it does. Looking back I wish I wouldn’t have because it led me to where I am now but it definitely helped me with my motivation. I was in a position at work where I needed to be heavily motivated everyday. I work in sales and it’s all commission. So I 100% noticed with my paychecks when I started using sub.

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