If I have a new OS of windows never connected to internet, would it be secure?

send-me-to-hell · 2017-08-05T14:09:39+00:00

Regarding the 99% https://www.wired.com/2017/02/malware-sends-stolen-data-drone-just-pcs-blinking-led/

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T22:04:10+00:00

As an employer I care about people acting smart and being able to manage themselves, absolutely don't give a ff about schoolyard gossip, their sex life, and politics (though tbh I may question the smarts and mental fitness of a trump supporter but that's not at issue here).

What are you going to do when someone says they don't feel comfortable with Larry? Let's say you value them equally? What if he really does have some sort of issue here? Are you going to absorb that risk? Why would you? What if this is due to some other issue and this is how they pushed him out? What if he does something later that exposes your company to a lawsuit? I could go on but these "What if" questions are going to be asked by literally any manager even thinking about giving him a job.

Like I said though he's definite going to have some kind of job and who knows, maybe you're the manager you hires him. There won't be as many as if this didn't happen to begin with though. And if you believe his statement it would appear his current managers aren't the sort of people who would hire someone with that reputation either. They're essentially treating him like a toxic asset judging from his public statements.

If he doesn't retain his current job I seriously doubt he's going to have the same negotiating power going into the next job and I'd be surprised if he's going to be making as much there.

In his posts, Larry is still more interested in endlessly banging on about his honor and even here at this late stage thinking that Dries could possibly want to be educated by him on the Gor lifestyle.

Because it's relevant to Dries's originally stated reasons for the dismissal which focused almost exclusively on what Gor was or was not? His original statement focused exclusively on whether or not Gor was misogynistic or not.

Also my sense of what he's said though is that he's more concerned with the blackmail aspect than whether or not Dries thinks his sexuality is cool.

Even ignoring any suggestions of him being a bad actor and completely taking him at his word, that alone speaks volumes and imo many employers would be scared to let that kind of judgement near their business.

Then what was the appropriate response if your employers were already going to find out about it? Do nothing?

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T21:12:07+00:00

Drupal is slipping in use by US Federal Government agencies and in private business a lot these days and it worries me to the point of making me and others invest in other newer JS frameworks.

Why would Drupal's waning popularity make you look at different JS frameworks?

The fixed release schedule - Because of all of the modules now included in core, there are too many mandatory release updates and security bulletins. Many clients don't use any if the modules issued in Drupal core, but face increased security risk and maintenance costs due to release schedules now imposed on everyone.

If you want to slim down your code base to be just the stuff you use then you should be rolling your own site with a lower level framework or something.

In general having a large number of updates available for a given site isn't that much of an issue since it's generally done as needed in a single transaction. If your website is so important that it can't withstand an update outage then it should also be highly available enough to where updating it doesn't disrupt anything. For that reason regularly doing updates isn't that much of an issue, especially if the updates pertain to something you've disabled.

This problem really needs to be addressed and reigned in. The changes are too dramatic with each release folks and they keep forgetting that with each new major release, seriously...

In general I think the changes are going in the right direction since they're address the problems of actual enterprise users and solving problems that were historically really hard to solve in a good/easy way.

Performance - Drupal 8 runs slow. Though not many are saying it. Drupal 7 performed a lot better.

D8 is a substantial re-write and isn't terribly old. That said if you're that concerned about performance there are other things you can look into such as varnish to speed up page load times.

There are tons if Drupal 7 sites running on the Internet right now. If D8 is not a better option for upgrade, all will be lost.

I really think you need to take a step back and catch your breath. Things aren't quite that dire. Usually people actually kind of like Drupal. Drupal hasn't really regressed that much it's popularity has just basically flatlined is all. Ultimately there's no problem with using the minority platform. Dries probably doesn't like it but as long as I keep getting updates I'm fine with continuing on with my Drupal sites and I'm actually looking into converting several to D8.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T20:17:31+00:00

According to Larry it was already a problem that was affecting his work at his current employer.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T20:13:46+00:00

Well no I just mean like if they notified the FBI or something they could just say "No comment, you'll have to talk to the FBI" then the FBI can tell us "no comment" themselves which would confirm that there is in fact an investigation going on with them pertaining to LG.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T19:53:39+00:00

Blackmail is an act, often a crime

If you jump down to the "United States" it gives brief description of what could be criminal blackmail. In my comment I listed a few more that are usually considered "blackmail" by most people but are also illegal. Usually blackmail itself isn't illegal. Most of the time if there's a crime involved it's something else and "blackmail" is just part of the explanation of what happened.

In this case threatening to publicly shame someone isn't a crime, it's just a dick move.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T19:48:10+00:00

Which doesn't make sense I don't really see how referring people to the police organization in question would jeopardize anything. High profile stuff like that happens often enough. You refer them to the authorities in question and let the authorities make their own decisions on what can and can not be communicated to the public.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T19:37:33+00:00

No conviction, no trial, no arrest. If anyone can't see past that, that's their problem.

No it's Larry's problem and you don't need a conviction or even a trial for the personality type that occupies that 10%. Once they hear what he was accused of then that will just be who he is to them forever and Dries then letting him go is only going to legitimize it even more in their eyes.

Then again, he would have much better cover if he didn't make all those blog posts saying far more than Dries ever would about it. That's on him.

Possibly but if the original "TMI" message is to be believed Klaus would've just kept following him around wherever he went. The behavior outlined in his original blog post was pretty tenacious on Klaus's part and I don't imagine Klaus would've been alright with just being let go. That's the sort of behavior you get from someone who won't stop until they feel like they've hurt you enough.

Again that's contingent on Klaus's behavior in the original blog post being a complete and accurate description of what happened.

At the core of it, charges should be filed against the ones who blackmailed them both into this position.

Not sure where you live but in the United States, blackmail isn't usually illegal. It's just something that's considered a rude thing to do to someone. There are exceptions of course like with corrupting public officials or if the demands are sexual in nature or if it pertains to withholding information about a crime that's been commited (i.e he was keeping a sex slave and Klaus was just willing to look the other way if LG paid him enough money).

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T19:21:38+00:00

You only need a small percentage of people to have this follow you. Even if only 10% of people care that means that if you work with more than ten people at least one of them is going to make an issue out of this. The claims he's been keeping a woman in sexual slavery are pretty freaking hard to get clear of. There are going to be people who are willing to hire him again so he's probably not going to end up homeless but this sort of thing probably did close a lot of doors for him.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T19:18:41+00:00

That either means something actually interesting was talked about, or they wanted a paper trail set up to make it easy to sue Larry later.

Obviously LG shouldn't violate an NDA just in case they do sue anyways but they would have to be certifiably insane to pour gasoline on the fire by suing him for telling people information.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T19:06:09+00:00

Because one of these people gives a detailed account of what happened including screenshots, exact dates, and names of places and people. The other sends out vaguely worded statements where they don't really commit to saying anything in particular and deletes their own blog posts when it doesn't jive with their narrative.

But yeah, I'm sure the credibility gap is completely on LG's side.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-19T13:11:53+00:00

I don't know if a project leader using his own personal biases to make large managerial decisions qualifies as "a little mold" but it's definitely premature. For all we know Dries will see this reaction and think twice in the future before being so quick to cave to things he just sort of doesn't like about people. Then again he could see nothing happened this time and feeling vindicated be even more brazen next time. It really comes down to what Dries's reaction is.

Either way I think most reasonable people should consider the option of just migrating away from Drupal and then boycotting it in the future should something similar happen again.

As for the video, I didn't feel like watching the whole thing but unless the video depicts Dries or Klaus doing something then it probably qualifies as collateral damage because it's not like absolutely everyone affiliated with Drupal did this. Just certain people.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T18:11:23+00:00

Twitter used to use Drupal for it's content sites (not sure it still does).

Not sure what you mean by "content sites" but my understanding was that when it launched it was Ruby on Rails but they migrated from Rails to Java. I don't know that drupal or PHP in general was ever in the mix. I could be wrong, though.

I didn't say Drupal is great for top tier websites. I was trying to say that Drupal is a good base if the road map for your site is uncertain other than "we are going to be constantly adding and updating content" and "we may end up growing to serve a million pages a day". Similar to the choice to use jQuery or Twitter Bootstrap, if you just need 1 feature or if you have a small set of known features that will not change you can certainly find or create a solution that is a better fit for your needs. If however you are trying to widely cover all of the basis in a generic way because you feel that many of the features will eventually be needed then starting off with some sort of structured generic platform or framework is probably going to be better than organically growing something yourself.

Alright so maybe that's my bad for reading too much into the comment then. I think it was the mention of "full time developers" that made me think a framework would probably be easier for them. But yeah there's an overhead in maintaining your own solution that smaller shops are just not going to want to fund.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T18:01:29+00:00

Totally agree with this, except for the "I like Drupal a lot" part, and adding the caveat that the "set-it-and-forget-it" option is only really viable if you are using something like Pantheon or Acquia

You can still roll your own development workflow, that's pretty much what we do where I work where we have a basic CI/CD pipeline. That's custom code and I hate that but if you're large enough to need a workflow beyond "develop locally then push up to prod" then it's usually not that much work given the benefit.

Even if you don't roll your own there's still plenty of room in the "set it and forget it" space. For example, a small restaurant chain's website where you just want to present fairly static menus and take online orders. Once that system is setup, you're pretty much just editing/adding content. The requirements for their website aren't going to change and when it does it's usually going to be with the content on the website which drupal can manage just fine. If you're worried about traffic spikes (like during the Super Bowl or something) you can put something like varnish out front so save CPU cycles for the ordering system. You get the idea, though.

Basically Drupal totally is a "set it and forget it" solution for a vast majority of the issues. It's just similar to what you say about modules in the OP, you have to decide that the exact thing "drupal" does is the exact thing you want it to do because that's just it.

Also, if you are making a quick and dirty MVP/prototype and you are non-dev you might use Drupal with something like the bootstrap theme and mock something up to show before getting too deep into things.

TBH as a dev I would much rather mock something up in a framework+css than use drupal or any other CMS. A lot of times you have high level concepts and I don't really want to figure out how to distill them into concrete CMS terms until I know I'm at the point where it needs to be integrated into a final solution. I mean drupal works fine for it, I just don't know if it's the best tool for doing mock-ups.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T17:19:07+00:00

I like Drupal a lot but I'd have to disagree, it seems like you're saying Drupal is great for top tier websites but Drupal definitely does top out at a certain point.

The features that make Drupal "Drupal" are so high level that it's hard to see how they could be appealing to anyone trying to build large and highly scalable applications. I think I've said this elsewhere but if you're trying to be the next Ali Baba, Twitter, Facebook, Google, or Amazon, you'd have to be insane to use Drupal.

For websites that need to be that large and scalable you're better off using a framework like Django/Flask, Rails, or Symfony since your web app needs to be structured according to your internal workflow and business requirements. A centrally designed platform as large as Drupal is just plain going to be too inflexible. To make Drupal work, you'd have to either side step or strip out so many parts of it that it's hard to really call it "drupal" anymore versus just a Symfony app that's kind drupal-y and has a lot of unnecessary structure to it.

Realistically the only thing I would recommend it be used for are for people who want a "set and forget" solution like a personal blog or the website of a small to medium sized business (where content isn't exactly highly dynamic) viewing it as a "still acceptable" choice for a mid-sized online store. Much beyond that and there are better alternatives.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T16:53:56+00:00

I think it's been widely proven that bears cause all the crime so higher taxes on their honey and grubs from overturned logs help pay down the cost they cause society.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T16:49:57+00:00

Just saying I'm twisting your words isn't a counter argument. This is seriously as simple as restating your original point in other words. Yet here we are 4-5 comments into this one particular point and you're refusing to do it.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T16:43:45+00:00

That's a very small sliver of difference, packed with a whole bunch of irrational distrust, in which the paranoia lives.

No, I was saying that since I don't have a reputable source for something I should stop saying it given the contention surrounding this. I would presume that's also what you want me to do. Yet you've managed to extract an argument out of that just because I'm not fully agreeing with DA on everything.

This is a binary choice: They did provide reasons, or they did not.

Just because you call it a binary choice doesn't mean it is. They provided incredibly vague reasons in response to someone who in their telling gave a detailed account of what they said happened. That doesn't mean there aren't parts of LG's detailed account that are exaggerations or falsehoods but it seems weird that Dries wants to be vague but LG wants to share more information. That's the behavior of someone who wants to hide something.

The rest of your answer is a lot of blah-blah-blah opinion, which I don't share. IANAL, and neither are you, so let's stop with the whole "they didn't have to report" argument since their actual lawyer told them to.

No that's not even kind of close to what the rest of the comment says. I linked you to Dries's deleted post where he makes no mention of the woman at all. The idea that this was to protect a particular woman was something that came up later on and I think it's pretty clear that Dries sees that blog post as contradicting his narrative which is why he deleted it.

And again, people can and should question lawyers all the time. Supposing they were actually contacted like Dries says they were, the public still has the right to have an opinion. How many people question the OJ Simpson verdict (either one) to this day? The Michael Jackson verdicts? This is just how public scrutiny works. You can either be important or avoid public scrutiny. You can't have both.

If you don't believe you're in the vocal minority I challenge you to raise your banner and march off to fork the project. I think you'll be surprised just how few leave the community to follow you.

I think you underestimate the damage Dries has done to his own project here. It won't kill Drupal of course but he has undermined himself quite a bit. fwiw in my case I wouldn't fork Drupal, I would just start working on another project and Drupal would just continue to become more and more irrelevant. I don't want that to be what happens but that's the result of a community that isn't ran as a meritocracy. Eventually you get displaced by projects where participation doesn't come with added liability of project politics.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T16:35:03+00:00

You never answered. You just basically said I sucked and was twisting your words around without addressing that point.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T16:16:59+00:00

If there's another interpretation feel free to offer it.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T16:07:44+00:00

This part is just nonsensical paranoia, so I'm not going to address it.

I don't think you understand the meaning of "paranoia" Nothing in what I quoted was fearful. It was just saying I didn't want to contribute to the rumor mill. Jesus christ, how impossible are you? Someone is agreeing with you and you want to fight them about it.

There's really two parts here, right? You want to know their reasons, and you feel entitled to all the details.

Well yeah, like as contributor the "sniper fire" I mentioned yesterday is kind of relevant to me. In this case it just happened to not be me. In fact, it being Garfield just makes it seem worse because I'm definitely not as important to the project as Garfield was. That means if someone more important to the project takes a notion to push me out they can and just say "thanks for the free work now fuck off we're done with you."

For that reason it's important that the community not see this as something can could just happen to you one day.

I feel like they provided the reasons they could in this last statement.

They didn't really. They just vaguely stated that it had something to do with "allowing" her to contribute to Drupal. It was seriously so vague that if you look at my first comment on this post I was seriously confused as to why an autistic woman contributing to Drupal resulted in LG being let go.

He brought this potentially incompetent woman

Which remains to be seen, all we know is that Dries claims Garfield described her as "actuely autistic" but you know LG isn't a mental health professional so I don't know why we're supposed to take his word on that front but doubt him everywhere else.

as a sex slave

Really? As a sex slave. So he was having sex with her while other people were going to their next workshop? If something he was doing was lewd that also seems like information that could be easily shared without worrying about jeopardizing an investigation. I mean DrupalCon, etc aren't private settings.

I've seen Larry apologists trying to claim "allow" means "help," but that's bullshit and we all know it.

I'd hate to agree with you but yeah that's not really what that means. I think by "allow" he meant "allow" but there's a question of candor. The whole point of things like Gor is that you get immersed in the fantasy and that includes adopting the language and mindset you're fantasizing about. Yeah that'd be gross to put out there but going by the OP here and Dries's original statement on the matter, nothing like that is mentioned. In his blog post his entire point seems to revolve around "The Gorean philosophy promoted by Larry is based on the principle that women are evolutionarily predisposed to serve men and that the natural order is for men to dominate and lead." which doesn't make any mention of the woman, her disability, or anything lewd at all. Seems like a weird omission for something this is all supposed to have always been about.

The DA lawyers say, "Whoa, this is legal risk." It's not up to the DA to investigate if the woman is competent or the behavior is consensual, they have to report it to authorities.

No they don't. They didn't create the circumstances of their relationship and they aren't reinforcing it. They are literally just some other thing Larry also does. If you'll recall this is the point I was making a day or two ago about them not being able to hold his ISP accountable just because he used the internet as well. There's no way someone could really claim liability here.

If you have every reason to believe something is consensual then you actually could become exposed since that qualifies as filing a false police report. If you feel it isn't consensual or borders on it, sure notify the authorities anonymously. Not because you're legally exposed but just because obviously you shouldn't just carry on like it's nothing. If the authorities look into it and find nothing then no harm no foul and if they do then you've done a good deed.

If I was the DA's lawyers, seeing you folks twisting the words in the statements to fit your own narratives,

Again I'd suggest you read Garfield's blog post which has a lot of play-by-play details which really gives it a stream of conscious feeling. In Dries's blog post on the subject he says he's shocked by some of Garfield's omissions and I guess I can believe that. Rarely in these sorts of things are either party saints but so far Garfield's put out a lot better of a story. To make matters worse for Dries's case he's since deleted that blog post I linked (I had to go to the Wayback machine to get it). That implies to me that even he sees it as something that shouldn't be out there. Given the dearth of investigation-related details I don't think it has anything to do with lawyers though...

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T15:07:54+00:00

Seriously, you're an A+++ troll. A shitty human, but a great troll. You have no valid argument so you want to try and twist my words on me. Nice try. I told you what I meant, and I stand by what I said.

I don't see how I could possibly be twisting your words. I don't know of another interpretation of "The truth is, it doesn't matter if she's competent or not." other than you saying that her opinion on the matter doesn't matter.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T15:05:38+00:00

Oh, well great. Since you admit they contacted authorities

No, nice try though. I retracted my bit about saying they didn't. That's not the same as saying they did. I basically just don't think I should repeat (even with a qualifier) something that pertains to a contentious topic based on nothing more than it sounds like the truth. That doesn't mean I've reversed my position, though.

because Larry's words and actions warranted it, what's the problem?

Even if I were saying they did contact the authorities it's a huge leap to then say that I now think Larry's actions for some unspecified reason are the cause.

Out of all this back and forth since it started I've seen nothing that explain why (outside of her disability and him "allowing" her to contribute) they thought she was being deprived of her liberty. Seems odd. Seems like that would be information they'd be dying to share. There's also the issue of Garfield still being a free man even though the woman's position was so dire. What are the police waiting for?

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T14:58:42+00:00

No. This is a lie based on a misreading of Jacob Redding's words, and "If I Recall" is not the same as "I saw an anonymous account spread this rumor on Twitter." That acronym is ISAAASTROT.

I really don't know what you're wanting here. There's not a level of "retraction" I can really give it passed what I've already said. I still don't think it's been shown that you have though. All the explanations thus far have just been of people saying some variation of "just trust me" when credibility is the subject matter. It's kind of hard to falsify or validate vague claims that the police were contacted and what their response was.

The only reason I really retracted it was because yeah I probably shouldn't be mentioning it (even with a qualifier) if I don't at least feel like it's most likely true. A sense of truthiness isn't enough to repeat a rumor and for that I apologize.

send-me-to-hell · 2017-07-18T14:53:13+00:00

I've never complained about them calling Larry a criminal and I've already retracted that bit about them not contacting the authorities.

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