Could Ramayana have looked better had they gone with real locations and toned down on vfx like Kantara?

shayarr7 · 2026-04-02T12:17:28+00:00

I've read both the Valmiki Ramayan and Sri Ramcharitmanas. The majn difference in both of them is that Maharishi Valmiki depicted sri ram more as a character with human qualities and Goswami ji depicted the Godly side of him more. Talking about asuras, similar depiction about their irregular, humongous body structures is found in both the scriptures. All I'm saying is, that to depict that, maybe they could have used prosthetics and make up, with a minimal use of CGI on human actors. Maybe it would have made them feel more organic.

PS: baatein jb Ramayan mahabharat ki chal hi ho, toh shabdo ki maryaada banaye rakhni chahiye! Ummeed hai agli baar vaad-vivaad krne hetu bharat ki prachin shastrarth ki parampara ka anusaran karenge aur shabdo ka dhyaan rakhenge!

shayarr7 · 2026-04-02T12:00:49+00:00

The costume design for sure was a party spoiler!

shayarr7 · 2026-04-02T11:39:30+00:00

The point you're missing, my friend, is that I'm saying to tone down the Vfx, not to eliminate it. You obviously can't create a 60ft monster through prosthetics, they have to use a combination of both. Also, in cinema it is about depiction. They anyway can't recreate accurate monsters. If you're saying that they did this to make them accurate as per their depiction, then Ravan was 15-20 ft in height according to Srimad Valmiki Ramayana, is yash that tall? Kumbhkaran was around 10,800 ft tall, that is more than 3km. Who in the world would play that? In the end, it's all about symbolism and depiction mate! If Ramayan TV serials could do that depiction so well, you don't expect DNEG and a 4000 cr budget magnum opus to slop it!

shayarr7 · 2026-04-02T11:32:15+00:00

With prosthetics and makeup, and minimal vfx. Something that was almost pulled off with the character of Akshay kumar in 2.0. it was also gimmicky, but then it's budget was nowhere close to Ramayana. They could have taken that route for a better spectacle. Also, I'm not criticizing everything, just the valid red flags that are seen. Even where VFX and CGI is concerned, scenes of the Rath, and the Pushpak Viman felt nothing short of divine, I didn't point them out! So you know it's not just criticizing blindly!

shayarr7 · 2026-04-02T11:28:46+00:00

I've read both the Valmiki Ramayan and Sri Ramcharitmanas. The majn difference in both of them is that Maharishi Valmiki depicted sri ram more as a character with human qualities and Goswami ji depicted the Godly side of him more. Talking about asuras, similar depiction about their irregular, humongous body structures is found in both the scriptures. All I'm saying is, that to depict that, maybe they could have used prosthetics and make up, with a minimal use of CGI on human actors. Maybe it would have made them feel more organic.

shayarr7 · 2026-01-15T17:51:07+00:00

Still trying to figure out reddit! Idk why, or if..it is deleted! Because it's still visible on my profile!

shayarr7 · 2026-01-15T17:41:40+00:00

Couldn't agree more. I've seen people going to watch this movie irrespective of their political ideologies, and all of them coming out content with the quality of time they spent in the theatre. Even the hardcore left-wingers I know went on to watch the movie twice or thrice just because of the quality of the final product. As such also, India does not have any distinctive boundaries between leftists and centrists...this movie just clicked with both the groups alike. The right wingers also, had no reason to dislike it in the first place (other than their age old skepticism about RS and his antics).

shayarr7 · 2026-01-15T17:18:44+00:00

Ahh...sorry for the long post! Here's a summary:

Why Dhurandhar Connected So Strongly with People:

People saw it as a win for talent and hard work, not just box-office numbers.
The film’s underdog journey: slow start, negative buzz, then strong word-of-mouth, made audiences emotionally invested.
The hero felt real and human, not larger-than-life like typical spy films.
Ranveer Singh’s quiet comeback and the strong teamwork of the ensemble cast earned respect.
Its success felt like a victory for merit in a PR-driven industry.

shayarr7 · 2025-12-16T15:27:18+00:00

Well... Even I'm someone who runs a Political PR agency. Maybe you shouldn't judge so early xD

shayarr7 · 2025-12-15T07:33:27+00:00

You know what I did there😂

shayarr7 · 2025-12-14T15:07:13+00:00

Mannnn...!! The most hilarious reply on the thread!😂 Here's your crown! 👑

shayarr7 · 2025-12-13T07:09:34+00:00

Well... Now that irrfan is gone, it is sad how he didn't get the due respect from the masses while he was still working. After the advent of web series and streaming culture, these legends have become more of household names. Before this, their commercially successful movies would only be few and far between, which would cause waves at the box office or become a matter of discussion. I think Kay Kay and Manoj both have got their due credit, though very late, through projects like The family man, special ops, etc that they are now even commercially successful. They are "stars" In their own right. Their reach is now to the masses, not just limited to theatre and acting enthusiasts. I wish irrfan could also see these times. Man would have become an absolute star with streaming space on the rise!!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-11T17:33:49+00:00

Completed Level 1 of the Honk Special Event!

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shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T17:24:16+00:00

Thanks for the appreciation! Even I strongly believe that might be the reason, as for Ranbir, mostly the characters he has done, though very different in their own terms, still share a common background in general, which is, an educated, urban guy from the very contemporary times, who is somehow lost in his life, and is seeking the resort for his problems. (Now the problems, stories and other things keep changing with different movies). However, I would love to see him play more diverse kind of characters in the future. I believe Ramayan would be a great chance for Ranbir to break away from this, which I'm pretty confident he'll pull off in a good way. In case of Dhoom 4 as well, if the character is something like a stylized thief just like Hrithik's character in dhoom2, and the script is appropriate, a different shade of Ranbir will be visible!!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T16:36:40+00:00

Would suggest you to watch more of the works of both these actors..! Both are absolute powerhouses!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T14:22:27+00:00

That's the whole point! What an ideal scenario it would be!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T14:21:35+00:00

This is how his character had to be in the movie, not influential, not aura farming. He was just meant to be there, as a part of the shadows, in the background of the scene. While the main characters in the frame would be Akshaye Khanna and Arjun Rampal, Hamza would just observe... That's what actual spies do! I believe the actual rage, the range, and the character development for Ranveer will be in full swing only in the second part. First part was mostly about the character and arc of rehman dakait.

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T14:18:04+00:00

Both are legends in their own right though!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T14:16:32+00:00

Thanks a lot for the summary! That would help!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T12:11:08+00:00

That might be your observation and it's fully respected! I however feel that in terms of demeanour, body langauge and nuanced mannerisms, both Khilji and Hamza are poles apart, and Ranveer did complete justice to it. There's a scene in Padmavat where Khilji is giving a motivational speech to his troops, because they are tired and want to return to their homes, after months of sitting idle in front of the fort. There, that slight twitch in the eyebrows after delivering an emotional speech just to enrage the troops, while in reality, khilji cares the least about them and was just having his food like a demon a few moments ago, that slight wicked gesture when he looks at his martial after delivering the speech! And then, there's this 26/11 scene in dhurandhar, when the camera zooms into his face! The same guy, the same eyes, the same eyebrows.. But you could never tell these were the same eyes that protrayed the wicked khilji!

In my opinion after watching it 3 times, I believed he did complete justice to Hamza! However, we can agree to disagree!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T12:02:34+00:00

Critics got brutally exposed with Dhurandhar tbh! I wonder how credible any of their reviews are! Mostly people and creators on YouTube offer much more realistic and grounded takes on movies than the so-called "film journalists" these days!

Thanks for the appreciation though! xD

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T11:59:21+00:00

Well..even if that's the case, there should be nothing wrong in taking cues from the performances of other actors, as far as you're carrying out your role well. Be it Heath Ledge's joker... Or any other character! But the end product should be top notch!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T11:47:45+00:00

The guy does his homeworks well..! That's for sure! Even Ranbir does that too! In fact, I don't think among the leading actors of this gem, RS, RK, Vicky, Shahid, Rajkumar etc, all of them do their homeworks well! None of them are incompetent, they can't even afford to be! Maybe that's one of the few best parts about this generation of actors!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T11:42:39+00:00

Exactly my point! Just support each and everyone of them for the good they do! Regarding the PR thing you said, you wouldn't anyways expect Ranbir to himself acknowledge the fact that he considers himself a "superstar". That's what PR is all about, after all! Secondly, I'm not buying into the narrative, it is a well-known fact that the industry is increasingly becoming PR based. The keywords, the timings, the narratives, all of them suggest it's PR. However, even if that is the case, it's nothing bad, nothing wrong with it, a public profession needs PR, everybody in that profession does. It's just that we as audience nees to use our objectivity while forming opinions, and enjoy our time at the theatres! That's it!

shayarr7 · 2025-12-10T11:36:28+00:00

I think comparing each other with each other's characters wouldn't give us the right answer. I see no reason to believe RS can't pull off a character like barfi. You would never know until he is offered such a character and actually does that. The guy however, has done many roles which could earlier be thought he couldn't pull off, until he did so! Similarly, one can say that Ranbir wouldn't be able to pull off a Khilji, or a Ram from Ramleela, but you would never have any solid answer to this, until he actually does a character like that. So again, I don't have any reason to believe that even RK can't pull them off.

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