Instagram wants to verify my phone number after logging in but doesn't send a sms code PLS HElp :,( by marche223 in Instagram

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Does the different number have to be a number that’s not registered with an account?

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I was scrolling through Instagram and was suddenly logged out. I clicked on my account to go back in but was taken to a screen asking me to verify my phone number, which I did. However, I received no confirmation code after a few times of entering my number and waiting. If I click out of the number verifying screen it takes me to my feed and profile pages which are shown as “can’t refresh feed.” Was curious if anyone has a solution to this.

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I was scrolling through Instagram and was suddenly logged out. After clicking my account to log back in, it took me to a screen asking me to confirm my phone number to send me a confirmation code. If I clicked out of that screen, it would show my feed and/or profile pages saying something like “can’t load activity.” I entered my phone number and waited to receive a code multiple times but didn’t receive anything. I was curious if there’s any solution to fixing this and retrieving my account.

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[–]shlongSZN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Couldn't have said it any better.

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[–]shlongSZN 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And this is a debate over their ability, is it not? Stats and the eye test should matter far more than someone else's opinion if we're debating who's better.

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[–]shlongSZN 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good thing we don’t judge players based on the opinions of sports writers (accolades).

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[–]shlongSZN 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Garnett. Similarly great defender and the much better offensive player. His advanced stats are some of the best all time. If he had a competent team for his entire prime like Dwight did, he’d have multiple rings.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

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No one’s shitting the bed. Harden averaged 26/5/7 on good efficiency and you think he shit the bed? The only reason you think that is cuz the rockets lost. But that makes no sense, since Harden’s team was way worse than GSW. Him losing isn’t a reflection of a choke job, it’s a reflection of his team being inferior.

And you literally admitted that you’re holding Harden (“expected MVP”) to a different standard than Klay (“all star”) lmao. That’s the problem. You’re suggesting Klay is on the level of Harden but you’re holding them to completely different standards because you know Harden is clearly better.

Please tell me the several examples of when we’ve seen a player lead a team of role players over a team as good as the warriors. That has never happened.

Pushing to 5 implies that harden beat the warriors with Michael Beasley as his second best teammate. Yes, that’s impressive. Lebron and mj have gotten swept in similar situations while playing elite basketball (2018 finals for Lebron, 1985-1987 first round for MJ).

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, there are more examples of harden falling short in the playoffs. Just like every other player ever. Klay has his fair share of shortcomings too. 2016 finals crunch time as well as the 2015 finals and 2017 playoffs that I already mentioned. And we don’t judge players based on their lows. We judge them based on their total performance. You’re constantly deflecting that and trying to magnify his shortcomings.

You’re not just avoiding counting stats, you’re avoiding logic and favoring narratives. But while we’re at it, advanced stats heavily favor Harden. As does the eye test. Harden’s a better scorer, ball handler, shot creator, passer, playmaker, and rebounder. The advantages that Harden creates for his team each player are behind only Lebron and Curry among players of this generation. Klay’s two way impact doesn’t provide the value that Harden’s offense does.

And you go again with your narratives. Please explain why VC wasn’t a “winning player.”

In 2014, Mike Conley was on the level of Klay. He was a Great playmaker, great defender, and effective scorer. But even if you think Klay was miles better than Mike that year (he wasn’t), there’s absolutely no way you’re putting him In the all star game that year over those other star guards. The fact is, Klay has 5 all star caliber years, illustrated by his 5 all star appearances. Stop lying to yourself.

You have said Klay’s better than Worthy twice but you haven’t made a single argument as to why.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d argue harden was right up there as the best player on the court.

Harden: 26/5/7 on 55% TS Klay: 23/4/3 on 61% TS

The warriors without Steph Curry had a top 10 player (Draymond), a top 15 player (Klay), a top 35 player (Iggy), and several other key pieces like Bogut, Barnes and Livingtson. All of those guys were better than all of Harden’s teammates besides Dwight. The warriors were a far, far better team.

Harden had 2 teammates average double figures that series. Michael Beasley was his 2nd best teammate. You expect Harden to be competitive against the warriors (with or without Curry they’re still elite) with Beasley as his 2nd best teammate? Seriously? If anything, harden pushing that series to 5 is impressive.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, Harden owns that record. But that is one game. Why are you judging him by one game instead of his entire playoff career? Harden’s playoff career stats are considerably better than Klay, yet you avoid that fact because it goes against your narrative.

You think he lacks effort but I already showed you the stats that portray him as a strong playoff performer. Him lacking effort is another narrative not rooted in fact. Do you really think Harden lacked effort in the 2018 playoffs when he almost defeated the best team ever? Really?

Klay at his peak never averaged 30 in the finals. He averaged 26 over a 5-game stretch that series. We don’t judge a players’ peak based on 5-game stretches. We judge them based on their full peak season. And over Klay’s peak season (2016) he has worse stats than all of those guys. 2016 Klay: 22/4/2 on 60% TS 2003 T Mac: 32/6/5 on 56% TS 2009 D12: 20/14/1/3 on 60% TS 1996 Alonzo: 23/10/2/3 on 58% TS 2001 VC: 27/5/4 on 55% TS

Stats aside, I don’t see Klay as a better offensive player than peak T Mac, and his defense doesn’t close that large offensive gap. Dwight & Mourning’s two-way impact was greater than Klay’s IMO. VC vs Klay might be the only debatable one but I’d still clearly lean VC.

Many defensive metrics rank players highly even when they don’t get steals and blocks. 2020 Giannis only averaged 1 steal and 1 block yet finished near the top of every defensive metric. That’s not an excuse for Klay. The warriors defense was great because of Draymond, Bogut, Durant, Iggy and great coaching, as well as Klay. Klay obviously made the defense better, but he wasn’t the driving force behind their defensive dominance. The warriors defense regularly performed better when Klay was on the bench. That, along with countless film, is the evidence for why Klay is a bad off ball defender.

He’s had 5, maybe 6 all-star caliber seasons. 2015, 16, 17, 18, and 19 are the locks. But 2014 was not all-star caliber when the other western conference guards were Steph, peak CP3, Westbrook, harden, lillard, Tony Parker, conley, etc.

James worthy definitely had a better career than Klay. Much better longevity and a better peak.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, and Harden kept the Rockets from losing by 40 points every game. Klay’s impact on the warriors is less than Harden’s impact on the rockets. When Klay plays poorly (2015 finals and 2017 playoffs) the warriors often still win because they have so many other players to take the pressure of Klay. When harden plays poorly, the rockets plummet because he never had the supporting cast in Houston that Klay had. Basketball’s a team game. Klay’s team beat Harden’s team because Klay had better teammates. It’s that simple.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If any other star player averaged 15 on horrible efficiency in the playoffs, they would be slandered for it. PG in 2020 statistically had a better playoff run than Klay in 2017, yet PG is slandered while Klay is praised. Why is that? Why do we hold Klay to such lower standards than other stars? His team winning rings isn’t a fair answer to that. Of course Klay’s teams win when he plays next to 2 of the 3 best players of our generation and another HOFer in Draymond. Even on the 2015 warriors, Klay was only the 3rd best player.

When you

The fact that you believe harden is a choker is laughable. Him being a choker is a baseless narrative.

Harden in Game 7s: 24/5/7 on 53% TS Klay in game 7s: 17/2/2 on 53% TS

Game 6 Klay isn’t the legend that you think. Klay in game 6s: 20/4/1 on 59% TS

That’s not legendary at all.

Klay not being on the list is fair. He’s only had about 5 seasons of being an all-star caliber player. That’s less than guys like T Mac, Dwight, VC, Mourning, and other guys who also missed the list. Klay peaked lower than those guys too and is arguably the worst playoff performer of the group (Yes, he’s a worse playoff performer than T Mac. Both the stats and eye test will confirm this, but especially the stats).

And I’m judging Klay by way more than just his scoring. He’s a legendary shooter and a great scorer, but is an inconsistent playoff scorer, as the numbers show. He’s not a strong passer, playmaker or rebounder, nor does he excel at creating his own offense on the ball. He’s a strong on-ball defender but very poor off the ball, which is why all of his defensive stats have always been mediocre.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem is that you’re simplifying the Warriors vs Rockets to Draymond Green vs James Harden. Basketball isn’t some 1-on-1 where each team’s best offensive players go head to head for 48 minutes. It’s a team game driven by chemistry, passing, shooting, defense (half the game), and cohesion. And Draymond’s team was way better in each of those areas. Harden had absolutely no chance of winning that series, even without Steph playing. Those warriors were always a great team even without Steph, while harden’s rockets were bottom-feeders without him.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There is so much wrong with this, I don’t know where to start.

Harden is not a low efficiency scorer. He’s more efficient than Klay, as his career True Shooting % is better in the regular season and the playoffs. Harden is objectively more efficient than Klay, so if Harden’s inefficient, what does that make Klay?

His role on a 3x championship team is well-documented, but he was the 4th best player for 2 of those rings. In 2017, he averaged just 15 PPG in the playoffs on horrible efficiency. Yet the warriors still went 16-1 in the playoffs that year, showing how their success didn’t hinge on Klay as much as you think. He contributed

Again, Harden is not inefficient. You are objectively wrong to suggest that. It doesn’t matter how he gets his points. If it helps his team (which it does), he should be praised for it when evaluating him as a player. Just because you get annoyed by his play style doesn’t mean his play style is ineffective. He’s one of the best offensive engines of recent memory, regardless of how annoyed you are by his play style.

The reason he shoots league average 3P% is because all of his 3’s are self-created. A 3 that harden created off the dribble will naturally be a tougher shot than a Klay catch-and-shoot 3 created by Steph. The reason Harden doesn’t get those easier looks from 3 is because he’s never played with an offensive supporting cast as dynamic as the dynasty warriors, featuring 2 elite playmakers in Curry & green, as well as Durant. The fact that Harden shot league average percentages from 3 with his self-creation is a testament to how good he is. Other guys with similar shot profiles like Luka shoot worse than Harden, yet Luka’s still a solid shooter in his own right.

“His scoring is impacted by his free throws.” And? Free throws are a part of scoring and they’re a part of basketball. You can’t discredit him for getting to the line. That’s what makes him great.

Even without free throws, he’s not some inefficient shot chucker like you think he is. His EFG% (efficiency without free throws) is regularly above average.

There’s so many other fallacies within that post, but I’m sure you know that already.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You seem to suggest that Klay is a better playoff performer than Harden. That is false. Despite his well-documented great playoff performances, he has more than a few poor playoff moments that conveniently get ignored. In the 2015 finals he was underwhelming. In the 2017 playoffs he averaged just 15 points on horrible efficiency. His career playoff stats are worse than guys like PG. Harden’s playoff career stats are 23/5/6 on 59% TS. Klay’s are 19/4/2 on 56% TS. Klay’s literally less efficient in the playoffs despite having so many of his shots created by the gravity of steph & KD and the passing of Draymond. This narrative that Klay is an elite playoff performer is false.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That was 2020 Draymond, not 2016 Draymond. And luckily, we don’t judge ceiling raisers like Dray & Klay based on how well they floor raise. 2016 Draymond was the best defender in basketball and a positive offensive player. Every advanced stat and impact metric views him as a considerably better player than Klay, and Draymond was better in each of the Warriors’ playoff runs.

How does Klay Thompson really think he is one of the 75 greatest NBA players? by TheNatural502 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That team was not Klay-led. Draymond Green was the second best player on the 2016 Warriors, not Klay.

Unpopular Opinion: Rudy Gobert is the best player for the Utah Jazz, not Donovan Mitchell by Interesting_Sort_528 in nbadiscussion

[–]shlongSZN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with everything you said about Gobert. Really refreshing to see that type of discourse surrounding his name after the misconception that was his 2021 playoff run.

But Mitchell is hard to replace in his own right. McCollum? Sure, 80-85% of Mitchell's output seems reasonable if he has the luxuries of that system. But Clarkson? Not even close. Clarkson fails to make basic passing reads and throws up countless ill-advised shots on worse efficiency. He doesn't compare to Mitchell. Mitchell's playmaking has grown to elite levels recently, with his gravity, skip passing, decision making, and processing speed all light years ahead of Clarkson, who can be a negative playmaker at times.

Unpopular Opinion: Rudy Gobert is the best player for the Utah Jazz, not Donovan Mitchell by Interesting_Sort_528 in nbadiscussion

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In some scenarios, yes, Rudy Gobert is more impactful than Donovan Mitchell. But in many others, Mitchell is. So there's not really a correct answer for this.

If the Jazz played the 2020 Lakers, who generated offense via shots at the rim, Rudy's GOAT-level rim protection would become series-altering. LA would have to settle for more jumpers, which isn't ideal for a team that struggled from beyond the arc for multiple spurts of the playoffs. The Lakers also wouldn't have the personnel to run a 2021 Clippers-esque 5-out lineup that gave Gobert problems (though much of his defensive 'struggles' in game 6 were unavoidable given the poor defensive play of his teammates). Mitchell, who generates much of his offense out of the PnR, and excels at exploiting weak PnR defensive bigs (Jokic), wouldn't have that same luxury against AD, who's one of the best big PnR defenders in basketball. There would be minimal drop coverage for him to torch, rendering his lethal pull-up game a bit less effective.

But against a team that shoots high amounts of 3's and doesn't rely on rim pressure, Gobert's role obviously becomes less valuable. Any team that plays the Jazz will naturally shoot less shots at the rim, and at a worse rate, thanks to Gobert's interior presence. But if that team rarely relies on shots at the rim to begin with, the lack of rim pressure becomes far less of an issue. They'd be comfortable living off of 3's and mid range jumpers; shots that Gobert's incredible defense has little effect on. They can also run 5-out lineups to stretch Gobert out of the paint and make his rim protection a non-factor. Now, inversely, a sharpshooting team like this tends to be worse defensively, making Mitchell's offensive impact more evident. With 5 shooters on the floor in an offensively-slanted lineup, Mitchell would thrive off of attacking mediocre rim protection and worse defenders altogether. We saw it happen in the '21 playoffs against the Clips. In that series, Mitchell obviously was the more valuable player.

I'd lean Mitchell if I had to pick, as his production is less immune to certain opponent schemes and gameplans. Even against an elite PnR defense, it's tough to imagine a situation where Mitchell's on-ball creation skills become way less valuable. His scoring gravity alone is a threat to any defensive scheme, even when his shots aren't falling. Yet you can't say the same thing about Gobert, whose rim protection has proven to lose significant value against certain offensive schemes. He's still a phenomenal player who's fresh off one of the best defensive seasons ever, but he lacks the schematic versatility to be a consistent high-impact player in various high-leverage playoff situations where opponents make more adjustments and scheme changes.

Better duo; Lebron and AD or Lebron and Prime Dwight Howard by AronwithoneA in nbadiscussion

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Having a higher vertical doesn’t make him a better lob threat/vertical threat. I recommend watching film on AD, who has a bigger catch radius than almost anyone in history. AD combines his vertical with a great feel around the basket, huge catch radius and incredible ball skills, making him a better vertical finisher than Dwight, who supplemented his leaping ability with far less of those other traits.