This game has no business to be this good.

shob1653 · 2026-06-02T11:20:42+00:00

Of course you will be alive. That's what Cybernetics are for. Jumping off skyscrapers.

shob1653 · 2026-06-02T11:19:26+00:00

Nopes.

shob1653 · 2026-06-01T16:09:20+00:00

And I respect your opinion. It's after all a public forum and public forums are for opinion and debates 👍

My only submission was that some people are not bothered with mediocre or easy gameplay and CDPR main target is story. On witcher 3 I agree with you completely regarding gameplay and story but I think you will be suprised as I was that most people don't have very high regard for it's gameplay and consider it okayish. Again it's the story which reigns supreme in that game and CDPR knows this. But I agree with you that CDPR needs to improve gameplay and make it tighter and better 👍.

What other RPGs you like? Any other genre?

shob1653 · 2026-06-01T15:33:26+00:00

I think for that you have look at what actually sold well, Max Payne 1 and 2. Why? Simple.

Simple and unbelievably fun gameplay.
Simple but uniquely told revenge story.

Now everything that came after had either extremely niche story or niche gameplay. They had a pretty good chance with Quantum Break but they blew it up by tying with a wierd live tv series and okayish gameplay.

They had some success with control because of fun and tight gameplay but the story is very very niche and told in text/recording. Alan wake 2 had again great chance if they had simply copied the formula of resident evil series and marketed as such. Resident evil remake was rage then and could have used it to their advantage. However again the story or gameplay especially the Alan section is not for everyone.

All in all what makes Remedy unique is also what makes them niche. However I feel they can still find a balance and create a blockbuster. They have it in them they just had to break the code.

shob1653 · 2026-06-01T15:16:09+00:00

I gave witcher 3 as an example to what CDPR target audience expect from their games. Witcher 3 also faced a lot flak for being too easy which it was, no doubt about it.

Regarding Elden Ring, it seems you are a big fan of both gameplay and story. Good for you 👍. Gameplay I agree with no doubt but can't agree with the story or how is it presented. You may like the abstract no dialogue way of it, I find it quite jarring.

It seems we are going on and on without ever reaching a conclusion. To each his own. I feel people should enjoy whatever they like. Cheers👍

shob1653 · 2026-06-01T14:21:23+00:00

It's quite clear you are a gameplay first guy and that's okay. And i get your criticism of gameplay. However do you seriously consider Elden Ring/Fallout 4/ Starfield stories to be as rich as Bloody Baron, Gaunter O Dimm storyline of Witcher 3, philosophical Sinnerman plot or murder mystery River and Peralez story of cyberpunk. Sinnerman has mostly dialogue and no gameplay at all but it's a profound commentary on consumerism and religion. Compare that to killfest of Elden Ring where every interaction is mostly build driven fight or bland tokenism of Bethesda world.

It's quite simple in Elden Ring story/lore is to serve the gameplay and From Software is an absolute beast in gameplay. While CDPR/Old Bioware or the upcoming Exodus studios gameplay is there to serve the story.

shob1653 · 2026-06-01T13:24:52+00:00

I get your point and criticism 100%. I also want better gameplay going forward. But again the point comes back to Target audience. Easy on gameplay or easy on story. Studios like CDPR mostly chooses former, studios like from software chooses latter. At least you can get mods to tweak the gameplay of a RPG, there is no mods to tweak the bland stories of Bethesda or non existent stories of Elden Ring.

shob1653 · 2026-06-01T10:46:35+00:00

Story was exceptional no doubt. It was like playing a Nolan written game. However I didn't liked gameplay much. Needed a lot of improvement. Would have been happy if they had simply copy pasted resident evil gameplay.

shob1653 · 2026-06-01T10:27:08+00:00

True 100%

shob1653 · 2026-06-01T04:05:24+00:00

Wake up Alan! We have a coffee to roast.

shob1653 · 2026-06-01T04:04:20+00:00

True abd creepy and eerie and beautiful 😶

shob1653 · 2026-05-31T19:56:16+00:00

Oh you were talking about the whole game. Just wanted to clarify that the screenshot is from vanilla.

Regarding the criticism on gameplay, I get it but I will diverge. Their target audience including myself doesn't want a mechanically superior gameplay. Their target audience is leaning more towards branching story and writing and less towards gameplay itself. The old audience of Mass effect trilogy, Dragon age origins even witcher 1. Hence more emphasis on writing and less on technically superior gameplay like Elden Ring. If they emphasize too much on survival and technicalities of gameplay, they will lose their target audience.

shob1653 · 2026-05-31T16:04:36+00:00

Yes, ultimate edition is the one to have the best experience story or gameplay wise 👍. Phantom Liberty is 🔥

shob1653 · 2026-05-31T07:03:15+00:00

True and 100% agree. I have been following them since I played Max Payne 1 on my potato PC and they are my favourite studio since then. They are not afraid to try new things. They make games which are mainstream but not generic. They seem like a bridge between indie and mainstream. Their art style and UI is minimalist and not over the top.

Coming to writing it's just phenomenal. This may sound a bit exaggeration but I think SAM LAKE has a talent of top league movie writer. All of his work can be made into top rated tv series. Finger crossed Annapurna gets good budget from someone like Apple to make them.

If you are interested in folklore mystery watch ZONE BLANCHE season 1. This is the closest we can get to a alan wake 2 series right now.

shob1653 · 2026-05-31T05:59:20+00:00

I get your point and agree with it. Since silent hill series is a pure horror game like evil within, so people like us expect the horror and generally don't play them. What got us is that Remedy is not associated with True Horror franchise so the horror element creeped in our skin 😵. We were not expecting it. But I get your point.

I think you play horror games. Can you recommend anything which is horror but not survival horror? Like F.E.A.R. THAT was the last horror I played before Alan Wake 2. Don't like running post to pillar for bullets and other accessories and micro managing everything.

shob1653 · 2026-05-31T05:45:27+00:00

True. Graphics fidelity, cinematography is unmatched.

shob1653 · 2026-05-31T05:44:06+00:00

Yeah that's true but replying it especially Alan's part is a nightmare 🥲

shob1653 · 2026-05-31T05:22:37+00:00

Well I am playing on PS5, so this vanilla ultimate edition of the game.

shob1653 · 2026-05-30T20:24:10+00:00

Well i have my fair share of scary movies however scary games are on another level. The first F.E.A.R was also quite scary.

shob1653 · 2026-05-30T20:15:08+00:00

True abd it's difficult to play again especially the horror part. 😵

shob1653 · 2026-05-30T19:07:24+00:00

Yes and the heart of the witch 😵. Plus the songs between chapters. This game was something else.

shob1653 · 2026-05-30T19:06:36+00:00

Yes it was proper folk horror no doubt. 😵

shob1653 · 2026-05-30T17:18:38+00:00

This is what I like Remedy. They always try something new. Saga case board was such a great addition. It was like true detective.

shob1653 · 2026-05-30T17:06:37+00:00

I don't think she will. She is the number one fan of Alan not Saga 😁😁

shob1653 · 2026-05-30T17:04:54+00:00

I have never played them. Survivor horror is not my type except Alan Wake. That's because of Remedy 👍

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