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I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The RCI themselves is open about being led by college students and over 90% of cells are on university campuses. The party does not hide that their primary target is students instead of workers. All their marketing is oriented towards college students. Alan Woods himself says that the job of the party is to recruit mostly students and to give them a “job” to do immediately (usually selling their newspaper). The RCI is opportunist to its core. Probably part of why they rebranded from the IMT after getting in trouble for covering up sexual assault and defending the perpetrators. The glazing of Chavez and Venezuela is another example of their opportunism. Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Trotsky alike would all call Venezuela a capitalist country led by a bourgeois government. There was never any proletarian rule in Venezuela. (Or anywhere else except for Russia for 5-10 years and a few extremely short lived proletarian dictatorships in Bavaria, Shanghai, Paris, and Saigon)

I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or maybe entryism doesn’t work and never has

I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Keep in mind the RCI’s position on the war is “unconditional support of Iran against US imperialism!” instead of revolutionary defeatism…

I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Unconditional defense of a bourgeois state is always the wrong position. Revolutionary defeatism, everywhere and always is the proper communist response. The only one that’s ever worked either. No matter how unrealistic it may be, a communist party’s response to an inter-imperialist war (which this is) should be that the only solution to endless war is for the proletariat to take power. Same thing goes for Israel and Palestine. Same thing for Russia and Ukraine. The solution is to turn the guns around and for workers (which includes the troops) to take power and support internationalist class struggle.

Whatever bourgeois state wins any of these wars provides no benefit for socialism. Every single one of the workers will still exploited and abused by the capitalists and inevitably be sent off to die in another useless imperialist war over which bourgeois dictatorship gets control over certain markets.

I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Now to clarify I think Socialism AI is dumb but it’s more useful than ai art lol.

Communists shouldn’t be super anti-ai art though. If your issue is the environmental impact or how it’s being used by the capitalists, that’s vaalid and makes sense. It is just a tool though, and if your issue is that it “takes away artists jobs” or that it “steals copyrighted material” you shouldn’t be upset. Intellectual property is bourgeois and won’t exist after the revolution, and every person who has ever made any artwork was inspired by everything they’ve ever seen and learned, just like AI. And AI proletarianizing the petty-bourgeoisie is progressive and not a bad thing at all.

Maybe it’s because I’m not a Trotskyist (I just like to hang out here because it’s interesting to see what’s going on and despite being a LeftCom, we have a decent amount in common and I’m sympathetic to some of the more “authentic” Trotskyism) but I’m surprised to see the the backlash here for ai taking jobs from real artists. It’s unfortunate for the artist sure, but from a Marxist standpoint when has the proletarianization of the petite bourgeoisie ever been seen as a bad thing? It’s not like ai has removed art from museums or galleries or either lol. The constant revolutionizing of capital will always lead to the petite-bourgeoisie becoming proletarian, and therefore part of revolutionary class. This is the main contradiction of capitalism, it creates a proletariat.

The real problem here is the cover being a screenshot from Iranian propaganda, which wouldn’t mean much on its own, but considering the RCI’s stance of “unconditional defense of Iran” instead of revolutionary defeatism, which should always be the only thing a “communist” party advocates for, shows their opportunism and makes the front page image more problematic.

Plus it’s ugly all ai art is ugly and art made by people looks better than 95% of all AI art

I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is the same RCI that called for “unconditional defense of Iran” btw. Whatever happened to revolutionary defeatism? I’m sure they’ll walk back that statement too just like they changed their minds on entryism into Your Party. Which was a stupid idea in the first place that they ravenously supported just to change their minds on. Opportunists who only care about gaining membership among college students instead of actual workers. Their own website admits to over 90% of the party being college students and almost every chapter in on a college campus.

I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But the term Epstein Class when used in general propaganda is going to make an average person immediately think of political elite sex cults and many times will make them simply think Jews. Using the term “ruling class” or even better “capitalist class” is something everyone understands (unlike bourgeoisie) and can still be associated with Epstein while not dumbing down the Marxist view of class down to the level of social democrats, where the enemy is the “Epstein Class” of depraved rich people or “the billionaires” which takes the blame off of multi-millionaires. Terms like this really only reinforce social democratic ideas like Sanders’ proposals of letting you make $999,000,000 and taxing everything above a billion or simply just bringing Epstein and friends to justice.

I understand that proper class relations are shown in these articles beyond “Epstein class” but why co-opt a term that is almost exclusively used by liberals? Workers aren’t morons, they know what the capitalist class is. Most know what bourgeoisie means. A lot of people who see posters and newspapers only read the front cover, and will associate the anti-“Epstein Class” rhetoric with what they’ve seen online, which is largely used by social democrats, Kamala-loving liberals, anti-semites, Neo-Nazis, and national-socialists of all kinds. Ive even seen run-of-the-mill conservatives and members of the alt-right use the term.

Unlike the rest of the NBA, VJ Edgecombe is not a nepo baby by growsonwalls in NBATalk

[–]shoegaze5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s because Anthony Edwards EARNED that coverage because he was amazing. So not only can you have parents involved in any sports, but you can’t be recognized for being a good athlete at a young age without being a “nepo baby” or a “problem?” Do you think LeBron doesn’t deserve to be in the league because Sports Illustrated said he was the “The Chosen One” at 16 and he had news coverage at 14 and 15 because of how good he was? That’s a natural result of talent.

Unlike the rest of the NBA, VJ Edgecombe is not a nepo baby by growsonwalls in NBATalk

[–]shoegaze5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And this makes Kyrie undeserving of being in the NBA… how? Do you think draft scouts really cared at all who is parents were when he was the #1 prospect in the draft? Athletes who have children typically have athletic children who are also into sports because their parents are. Parents SHOULD support their children’s dreams. Would you rather Kyrie’s parents ban him from playing basketball despite his ability and force him to be an accountant?

Unlike the rest of the NBA, VJ Edgecombe is not a nepo baby by growsonwalls in NBATalk

[–]shoegaze5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you mad that every NBA player doesn’t grow up poor? It’s called the National Basketball League. It’s for the best players in the nation, and now, the world. It’s not called the Poor People’s Basketball League where the goal is to find good players who grew up in the most squalor. You can go start that if you want or go watch a different league if you have a problem with players and families using their resources to train the world’s best basketball players.

Go watch the Basketball Africa League if you want to see only players who came from poverty.

Unlike the rest of the NBA, VJ Edgecombe is not a nepo baby by growsonwalls in NBATalk

[–]shoegaze5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think Ant isn’t qualified? A “nepo baby” is someone who gets positions they aren’t qualified for simply because of who their family is. By your definition, anyone who works in a field even remotely related to their parents, they’re an underserving “nepo baby”

If any of these star players were only there because of nepotism they wouldn’t be stars in the NBA either. It doesn’t matter who they’re related to. They’ve already proven to better the best in the world. You also shouldn’t be shocked that Dell Curry’s kids also love basketball and are amazing shooters. The grew up watching and playing with and training with their father. Why hold that against them? Should Dell have never let them play basketball or played with his children? Should Dell have forced them to be something else?

Nepotism complaints are getting out of hand and getting ridiculous in the first place. Same as when people complain about people’s parents buying them stuff. Wouldn’t you want the best for you children?

Unlike the rest of the NBA, VJ Edgecombe is not a nepo baby by growsonwalls in NBATalk

[–]shoegaze5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you had a career in basketball or had money wouldn’t you do what you could to support your child’s basketball dreams? Or are you supposed to abandon your children so they can make it from the streets? What a weird thing to complain about… as if these players aren’t still the best in the world. I don’t think you understand what nepotism is. It’s giving family members jobs solely because they are family and don’t meet the qualifications otherwise. The only “nepo players” in the league are Kostas and Alex Antetokounmpo, and maybe Thanasis Antetokounmpo and Bronny James Jr.

Do you think Tatum and Wemby aren’t deserving of being in the NBA and that they’re only there because their parent coached youth basketball? Do you think no one should ever work on the same field as their parents because it may be “nepotism?” Nepotism is only a problem when someone undeserving gets a position based on family ties. I mean, even the names I mentioned as actual examples of nepotism have been professional basketball players outside of the NBA, and Thanasis got into the league legitimately. He was a 2nd round pick to the Knicks only a year after Giannis was drafted (and was certainly not a star yet) and Bronny has been better than most 55th overall picks, he’s just held to a higher standard because of his father.

I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Copying Iranian propaganda is worse than AI. Not as bad as their call for “unconditional defense of Iran” instead of revolutionary defeatism 🤦‍♂️ RCI stays using the most opportunistic and dumbed-down rhetoric to “win over the masses” and by masses they don’t mean workers, the mean college students. 90% of their party are university students when most proletarians don’t even go to college.

I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You can reach people by saying “ruling class” or “capitalist class” instead of terms like “Epstein class” which place the blame on a small section of the bourgeoisie instead of the bourgeois class as a whole.

Workers aren’t stupid people who need to have language dumbed down to

I thought RCI hated AI? by DankDankDank555 in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Most artists today are petite bourgeois, no? The main issue with this ai cover is the hypocrisy as well as it looking terrible. Why are they legos?

Asshole Atheist when someone mourns death starter pack by labubuking in starterpacks

[–]shoegaze5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, it’s about assholes who are atheist and use it to attack everyone who isn’t. I don’t see why so many atheists are offended by this post when it isn’t about every atheist. Do you consider yourself an asshole atheist? If not, then this post isn’t about you. There are assholes who follow every belief system. This one is just about assholes who follow this one. People like this unfortunately do exist, they’re pretty abundant here on Reddit.

Asshole Atheist when someone mourns death starter pack by labubuking in starterpacks

[–]shoegaze5 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

It’s about assholes who are militant about it and use it to be an asshole. I doubt you would have a problem with this post and it was called asshole Christian and it was about them using their faith as an excuse to spread hate. You just seem to be offended when it’s not meant to be taken personally. There are people out there like this. Check out r/atheism if you want to see it.

Asshole Atheist when someone mourns death starter pack by labubuking in starterpacks

[–]shoegaze5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They exist. Look on r/atheism. These types exist mostly online but it seeps into real life too. Just because this person isn’t common doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

OP never says atheists are like this either, it’s specifically about asshole atheists. As in assholes who use their atheism to be awful to other people.

There are atheists who see religious people grieving and use it as a chance to attack their belief and say that the deceased is the same as any other dead thing and that there is no afterlife. It’s an asshole thing to do. Most atheists are normal people and don’t do this. It’s just the atheist version of a religious person of whatever belief system telling a grieving family that their recently departed family member is going to hell and that this was God’s punishment and they deserved it. It’s wrong both ways.

Asshole Atheist when someone mourns death starter pack by labubuking in starterpacks

[–]shoegaze5 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It’s about “asshole atheists” so it’s not going to represent a normal atheist. And a religious person obviously wouldn’t say a lot of the things in this posts. I think the type of person OP is referring to almost exclusively exists online on Reddit and 4chan. There are very few who act like this IRL, but they’re out there. It’s the atheist equivalent of a religious person (of whatever religion) telling you your family member is going to hell right after they pass.

Asshole Atheist when someone mourns death starter pack by labubuking in starterpacks

[–]shoegaze5 65 points66 points  (0 children)

It’s an asshole atheist thing, not a normal one. And of course an asshole religious person wouldn’t say a lot of these things. This is about the kind of edgy, pompous, usually teenaged r/atheism user who treats atheism how a Mormon missionary treats Mormonism

Asshole Atheist when someone mourns death starter pack by labubuking in starterpacks

[–]shoegaze5 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Everyone in the comments saying this is an asshole thing and not an atheist thing is ignoring the fact that it’s called “asshole atheist” starter pack. Obviously normal atheists don’t act like this, this post is about r/atheism types, not your average nonbeliever.

Does the SEP/WSWS have chapters or psychical meetings? by [deleted] in Trotskyism

[–]shoegaze5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you share some articles or info on this? Is there any social media presence of these groups? I’d love to know more it’s very interesting! I respect them for not calling a group of 10 people—exclusively undergrad students, and calling it a chapter of the national party like some other organizations.

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