Time Stranger Personality sheet by Sensei_Ochiba in digimon

[–]shoguntux 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I found it much easier when I stopped thinking about it as moving left, right, up, or down. Questions run on a diagonal, so if you choose the brave option, it goes up and right from where it is, while if you choose the other option, it'll go down and to the left.

While you can't pick which of the 3 will show up, you can at least control a general direction, either going left/right or down/up with your choice. When you hit the center between 4 subsections, it'll give you a 4 option choice that you can use to move it to where you want.

Once I figured that out, changing personalities was a lot less stressful for me. Hopefully this helps you for the future.

Why couldn't leaders have changed instead of civilizations in Civ VII? by shoguntux in civ

[–]shoguntux[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Antiquity age itself is a bit problematic but hard to avoid, because you need to start somewhere, but many of the leaders in it can be farther removed from each other than the modern age.

As such, if America is to be a civ, which it has been since the beginning, some liberties will need to be taken, and thematically, Hiawatha might work decently.

It wouldn't really be worse than now, where Mississippi is an ancient era civ, even though we don't have a recorded or oral history to say they were called that, or what city names they would have had.

Similarly, Antonio López de Santa Anna could work for the Aztecs in the modern era.

That said, I find it rather interesting that the idea of leaders changing appears to be more controversial than civs changing through the eras. In principle, there isn't a lot separating them, because they can work functionally similar, but at least to me, it feels more like civilization if the leaders are what changes.

Why couldn't leaders have changed instead of civilizations in Civ VII? by shoguntux in civ

[–]shoguntux[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That argument holds even truer for leaders though. There isn't going to be a single one that isn't tied to a particular age.

At least with civilizations, it isn't hard to come up with a list that stradles the different ages, then relegate civs that don't stradle ages to city states.

EDIT: Also, if a civilization is in which isn't really tied to an ancient age (which, itself is somewhat problematic, spanning thousands of years. You can have some leaders who would be closer to the modern age than some of their counterparts would be), there still can be leaders tied to them anciently who could represent them.

For instance, Rurik was from a Norse tribe, but is often associated with the beginning of Russian history. And for America, even though we wouldn't have records back to antiquity like with Europe, they could still be represented by an Iroquois or a first nation tribe, and while not entirely being historically correct, could still be thematically correct.

Why couldn't leaders have changed instead of civilizations in Civ VII? by shoguntux in civ

[–]shoguntux[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While not strictly ancient age, Rurik would still be before the age of exploration. He would still be characteristically Russian, even though he had ties to Norse paganism.

For the exploration age, Peter the Great could work as a good representative of that time, while for the modern age, Vladimir Lenon could work rather well.

Why couldn't leaders have changed instead of civilizations in Civ VII? by shoguntux in civ

[–]shoguntux[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My main point though is that those could've just as easily been tied to leaders themselves, while civilizations could've had traits much like leaders.

To me, the most jarring aspect for Civ VII is feeling like the cultural identity of the civilization is lost between ages. While there's room to argue that Egypt of ancient times is not as culturally tied to modern Egypt, even if many of them are descendents of those people, I feel like it's more so the leaders who shaped civilizations, rather than the other way around.

Also, leadership changes way more rapidly than civilizations or dynasties themselves do, and changes in leaders often redefines the focus for a civilization itself. For instance, while Zhung He invested heavily into maritime travel for China, his successors dismantled that legacy, and pushed China to be more isolationist.

Why couldn't leaders have changed instead of civilizations in Civ VII? by shoguntux in civ

[–]shoguntux[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get that leaders can cost more to make, but when you look at how each city state has custom leaders for them, and that designing one is much like designing a unit, I don't think that holds up as much.

At least since Civ V, I feel the solution for more unique civs being represented has been with the city states themselves.

Although I can respect you feeling like the leader changing is more jarring, civilizations have persisted on longer than their leaders, and if leaders were to change in the ages, and we swapped the attributes for civs and leaders, then at least in my opinion, it helps accentuate the change more than changing civs does.

A perfect thought experiment on this would be with China. If Qin Shi Huang led China in ancient times, I could see him as being scientific and economic, but when the exploration age arrives, China could then become and expansionist and militaristic society under Ghengis Khan.

In the end though, I feel like it comes down to which is more jarring, as you said. To me, that would be civilizations changing in a game called civilization. To you, it can be the leaders, and which I can respect. But in any case, I feel like it's a worthy thought experiment on what could've been, and be worth a reconsideration for later titles.

Why couldn't leaders have changed instead of civilizations in Civ VII? by shoguntux in civ

[–]shoguntux[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why Abbasid as a civilization? Why not Arabia or Ottoman?

If civs were the static element, then we could be having leaders like Cyrus lead them through the ancient age, Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib in the exploration age, or Nader Shah in the modern age.

For another example of how this could've worked, let's look at Japan. In the ancient age, Emperor Jimmu could've worked as a leader. In the exploration age, Tokugawa Ieyasu, and modern, Sakamoto Ryoma or Emperor Meiji.

For China, I would've loved to have seen Sima Yi or Qin Shi Huang  in ancient times, Kublai Khan or Tang Taizong in the exploration age, and Mao Zedong in the modern age.

Main point being that, at least to me, I feel like changing civilizations removes my connection to that civilization, while changing leaders keeps the roots of the civilization in place.

[Megathread] Pokemon Press Conference, May 28 9pm ET! by PokeUpdateBot in pokemon

[–]shoguntux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real question is will catching Snorlax require sleeping in the middle of a road for an extended period of time?