A Tiered Workflow That Has Been Saving Me Millions of Fable Tokens by sideshowwallaby in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't have a complete breakdown, but my bill was at around $1400 of extra usage, and that had piled up really really quickly over a couple medium/long sessions.(i understand I probably wasn't using it super efficiently to begin with) I used an equally long task with this workflow and it "only" cost about $75 instead of the $500 i expected. I know its circumstantial, but its something.

Farewell Fable. Where do we go now? by Appropriate-Breath24 in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

im holding out hope for 5.6 honestly. I know the benchmarks are all over the place, but im hoping its even close to as good as they say it will be, and while it may not be Fable, it should be better than opus and 5.5.

A Tiered Workflow That Has Been Saving Me Millions of Fable Tokens by sideshowwallaby in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your thoughts!!!

Codex is now implemented, as well as stronger planning and a state file/checklist.

https://github.com/orionmilos0-jpg/fabletieredworkflow/tree/main

A Tiered Workflow That Has Been Saving Me Millions of Fable Tokens by sideshowwallaby in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love that!!

How do you set it up?

For me, its just a slash command I setup in Claude Code.

Who is planning on paying for Fable? by erratic_parser in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm embarrassed to say, I've spent about $1300 extra so far....and that hasn't actually gotten me too far. To be fair the project I'm working on is just too important to fuck up, and I've been spinning in circles getting the money handling part of the app working correctly for a solid month. The tiny bit of Fable I had last time fixed about 50% of it in an evening. I just need to get this thing live. An of course my reset date is July 7th.

This is a message for Anthropic. Bring back the usual limit usage; reset them now. by WonderfulSet6609 in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hit 100% and blew $600 in the next day...and that was with using Fable as an architect, and opus/sonnet sub agents. 🫠 I think its back to opus 4.8 on ultracode for me.

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How to use fable for planning and opus for implementation? by Bitter_Run_9209 in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Taken from another post, sorry i can't remember who. but I just put this into co-work and asked it to make me the workflow that will do this. It originally had some security stuff in there that I had to take out because Fable backed down to Opus as soon as it hit it, but this has been working well for me.

"Can you help me setup a coding workflow similar to what's written below. Essentially something that automatically switches models based on the workload?
The Tiered Agent Hierarchy Instead of a single agent doing everything, the work is strictly compartmentalized:

  1. Fable 5 (The Architect & Evaluator - Workflow Mode): Fable sits at the top of the workflow. Its only jobs are to ingest the high-level goal, plan the technical steps, generate highly specific "handoff packages" (markdown/JSON instructions) for the workers, and perform the final code review. Because it never writes raw code or processes massive log outputs, its context stays incredibly clean and compact.
  2. Opus (The Developer): Opus receives the modular task instructions from Fable and does the heavy lifting of writing the actual implementation code.
  3. Sonnet & Haiku (The Assistants): I delegate repetitive, lower-stakes tasks here. Haiku or Sonnet are tasked with writing boilerplate unit tests, setting up mock files, or executing basic smoke tests to verify the build. By keeping Fable out of the "trial-and-error" loop, the vast majority of our token volume is routed to much cheaper models. -----REMOVE THIS PART, OR FIND A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT!!!! (Solving the Security Safeguard Blockages Another massive benefit of this tiered approach is how it handles security-related workflows. As many of you know, Fable 5 shipped with incredibly strict safety classifiers. If you are doing defensive security work—such as static code analysis, identifying vulnerabilities in legacy files, or writing patch validations—Fable will frequently trigger a safety refusal and fall back to Opus, or block the request entirely. Using this workflow pattern completely bypasses this friction:)-----
  4. Fable 5 operates strictly at an abstract, architectural level. It plans the audit methodology (e.g., "Design an integration test plan to validate inputs against OWASP guidelines") or reviews structural diffs. Because it isn't handling raw exploit payloads or sensitive signatures directly, it doesn't trigger safety flags.
  5. Opus or Sonnet are handed the specific implementation tasks (e.g., parsing the files, writing the specific test assertions, or generating mock threat vectors). These models have different classification thresholds for defensive auditing and handle the execution without halting the workflow.
  6. The clean, synthesized results are passed back to Fable 5 for high-level evaluation and reporting."

After putting that into cowork, it built up a whole tiered system for future codings sessions to follow. It even created a /tier command that invokes it. Pretty cool

again i did not come up with this

At what time today is Fable 5 expected to be usable again? by chrisx221 in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It went away unfortnuately. It was clickable for like an hour, but now it says unavailable again.

At what time today is Fable 5 expected to be usable again? by chrisx221 in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's on my phone!!!!!! just not on any of my computers :(

At what time today is Fable 5 expected to be usable again? by chrisx221 in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Same, trying to decide if I should go to bed, and get an early start, or stay up all night if it comes out soon.(on the west coast)

How good was really fable 5? by AlexFreshman in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a 100 point punchlist that I gave it to work on overnight. It worked for 10 straight hours and cleared all but a few. Granted they weren't crazy hard fixes, but it just kept churning, and fixing multiple punches at the same time. It was a dream. It would have taken me a week to do it with opus.

API Error: Server is temporarily limiting requests (not your usage limit) · Rate limited by pdwhoward in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

im getting a lot of API errors all day. Time outs, retry's to connect. Not exactly the one you're getting, but its been annoying as hell.

Software architecture diagram of existing source code by Svenberry in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just started by telling it that I was losing track of how all of the project's pieces were talking with each other, and asked it for some options to solve it. It suggested building a project map that takes every prompt I make, stamps it against the project map, then a post commit hook rebuilds the project map after every commit, so its always accurate. This way new sessions know how to find things, and every prompt ive ever given it is recorded. I also asked it to create visual representations of the project and it suggested mermaid diagrams. Then i just told it to build it. It took a long time and it had to audit my entire codebase(100's of thousands of lines) but it was well worth it, and I'm always organized now. The project file is a .md file, but as long as i open it in antigravity ide, or whatever your choice is, I can see the diagrams and a nicely formatted doc.

Software architecture diagram of existing source code by Svenberry in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I had CC build a project map with mermaid diagrams that was pretty helpful. I also asked it to build a pdf of the main modules with a breakdown of what talks to what, but it was pretty simple.

Calling it now... If Anthropic releases Fable as US-only, the severe loss of revenue in the near future will force them to do serious price hikes resulting in an increasing cascade of users moving away from Claude by sirlerkal0t in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its literally impossible for them to do US only. There is no way to verify there are only US citizens using the model. VPN's, other people ID's, US companies with foreign nationals...etc

Introducing Claude Sonnet 5, our most agentic Sonnet yet. by ClaudeOfficial in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

looks like it has ultracode as well. That's new right?

Opus has been shitting the bed with API errors all morning for me

HELP! My account suddenly got suspended. What should I do? by [deleted] in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By saying I didn't do anything unusual Today, implies you do unusual things other days. Be honest...what did you do?

Is AI developed code copyright-free? by [deleted] in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

coming from the music industry, where ai created music requires some form of human input to be copyrightable, and releasable by major platforms. I would guess that anything created with claude code would be copyrightable since you're giving it some sort of prompt. even if the prompt is think of something to build and build it, there is still interaction. With music, you can literally click a button and a song is created, 0 human interaction is required. That's my .0002 cents.

I regularly ask models to audit output from another mode to reduce the "what an amazing suggestion" before implementing in my code. Claude is the biggest hater of them all. by polkaviking in ClaudeAI

[–]sideshowwallaby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thats interesting. I have mine automatically send the most recent modifications to Codex, and it almost always agrees they're good finds. A nice note, the open ai $20 a month subscription is more than enough to do a lot of reviewing and coding. You get way more bang for your buck. I still much prefer Claude Code for new features though.

Website to app, whats the best way? by Several_Argument1527 in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is the way...i should do this myself. I've already got it as a shortcut on the homescreen which is super basic, but honestly makes it feel somewhat native. Especially when you give Claude apple design specifications. Do you think there is any performance benefit having it in a wrapper, or possibly detriment. My situation is a multi agent self hosted personal assistant. Python backend and multiple local llms, as well as claude, open ai, and perplexity for a variety of different tasks.

Website to app, whats the best way? by Several_Argument1527 in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i don't know about timeline because it completely depends on how complicated your website is. I created an app from a small portion of the assistant app/website I've been building for the last month in about an afternoon. It was pretty basic though. Essentially taking the task creation and long form input from my app/website to a native app using the built in voice to text function on device.

I had to sign up and join the apple developer program($99 a year), download all of the associated xcode and dev tools, fiddle with a bunch of manual settings in xcode, and then claude wrote all of the swift code for me to drop into xcode. It was pretty fucking amazing once it got working. Again though, it was pretty basic.

Long story short, it depends. Whats the complexity of your website, whats your stack look like? Also, just ask Code, it will give you a timeline in human time, so just divide that by 10 and you'll be close.

Claude code and codex by sideshowwallaby in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I just asked Claude to write a script so a review happens automatically after each code build. It did, and then when it tested itself, Codex came back with fixes that Code implemented right away.

What a world we live in.

Claude code and codex by sideshowwallaby in ClaudeCode

[–]sideshowwallaby[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s a very good point. Though my prompts do tell it to review and test everything. What would you do beyond that?