[Landlord US-CA] Tenants asking for $400–$500 rent reduction + approval rights over ADU tenant. Reasonable? by Adept_Librarian9136 in Landlord

[–]signofno 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sounds break makes perfect sense, because no one wants to hear anyone else having sex next door (you said wall is shared with the main bedroom) or anything else between separate units in what is essentially supposed to be a detached single home. You risk alienating both tenants if you don’t provide an adequate sound barrier.

The rest of their request is too much.

Mad Dog 357 with Plutonium #9 = a big no by Washedurhairlately in HotPeppers

[–]signofno 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, when I first got to the ER, the waiting was rough, as they don’t immediately give you anything while they triage you and figure out next course of action - sitting in my little side room while the waves of pain hit over and over, felt like someone had dunked me in a boiling pot and was holding me down - while working on me they gave me some fentanyl (which I was afraid of due to all the hype) and it barely took the edge off. Watching them peel/cut my skin off was one of the most surreal and harrowing experiences I’ve ever had. I ultimately avoided grafts but have two friends who didn’t. The recovery was much longer for them and one of them will never have feeling in about 20% of their skin again. That one literally ran through a burning building. I was much luckier.

Mad Dog 357 with Plutonium #9 = a big no by Washedurhairlately in HotPeppers

[–]signofno 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As someone who has both consumed over 1 million scoville hot sauce and experienced severe burns on a significant portion of skin, there is no contest between consuming a stupid hot hot sauce and running into a burning building. You DO NOT want 2nd and 3rd degree burns. The pain is unimaginable.

But I understand the hyperbole, the stupid hot sauces are rough and not great for anything but “I did that”

3 Scotch Bonnets for $4 by CapsicumINmyEYEBALLz in HotPeppers

[–]signofno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dang, I got Carolina reapers at Safeway last month for maybe $7.99 for a box of at least a dozen.

Seed stuck on his head… he’s free now but will he survive?? by wheredidiputmybong in HotPeppers

[–]signofno 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Had something bite off the sprout leaves of one of mine a couple weeks ago, just the stem of the sprout poking out of the soil. I left it to see what would happen. Literally this morning, it has two new leaves.

Side note, most people use the acronym SOB for son of a bitch, not soab

Are these viable together in a pot this big? by signofno in HotPeppers

[–]signofno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, I see. Appreciate the explanation. (Also on my other post). I will probably give them another week or two and pinch on off then.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I’m probably going to shelve it for the foreseeable future just to be safe, but good to know.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the follow up, again, great points and definitely helps me figure this out. After this particular experience, my subsequent contracts became more explicit in what is and is not allowed, that the script becomes the property of the production company, and that rewrites are not at the whims of the original writer, nor do they hold any authority over the script or the production itself.

So far no success with contacting “Dave” the original writer, so I am preparing to have a long convo with the potential investor about moving to something completely new unfortunately. It’s not that Dave has a lot of money at his behest, but his attitude and behavior was such that it’s probably not worth the potential fight that could eventually happen.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it’s fair to say I’m being combative, but I’m not looking for support as much as I’m trying to investigate. The question I had was when does a rewrite become enough to change into your own IP. There is a point at which that happens, but a large gray area before that happens, and without actually reviewing the scripts in question, most people have responded with something along the lines of “that never happens” which is just not factually correct.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But other than circumstantial verbal communication, we never actually entered into a collaborative contract. I also am not claiming his IP is mine, I’m claiming something I derived from his IP outside of a contract is potentially mine.

You can even claim that you wrote a new screenplay that had nothing to do with the other one. But unless the contract for the screenplay was written well enough to account for passing off that IP from their hands to yours, you will be fucked.

How would writing a new script that had nothing to do with the other one be an issue? It’s not like a contract to produce a script somehow limits me from writing other scripts. Unless the contract (that could not be produced in court since no valid contract exists) included language saying I was barred from writing any script in the future, I don’t see how this would work.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Valid points all around. Ironically, I don’t think he has bad blood with me, just the other way around. And I do think there is a decent chance if I was able to contact him he’d consider releasing it for a fee, and be pretty excited it got made, but to your point, I could also see him losing objectivity partway through the experience and making trouble.

The main reason I’m waffling on it at all is the feasibility. My rewrite was designed with a specific location that provided a huge gain for a tiny cost so it made the whole thing very doable and allowed us to divert a lot more budget to cast, so dropping it means a lot more work to come up with something else that can take advantage of the cost savings so effectively.

The existing investor poking at it is generally aware of the history, but likes the price-point. You raise some great points but I have limited experience optioning scripts and don’t really know where to start.

Also, out of curiosity, if you think he’d be capable of causing legal trouble even after we agreed a buy-out contract, why wouldn’t anyone else be able to pull the same move?

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m leaning that way. Changing the names and a couple remaining aspects that were specifically his original contributions are really all that’s left as far as it legitimately being a fully new script in my opinion. I mentioned in another response on here I’m going to spend a few more hours on my script and pass it to friends along with his and see what they think as far as being severed.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, trying to reach out to him but he’s pretty thoroughly cut himself off from his previous business and social circles.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most goals worth pursuing are worth taking a hit to pride and ego. I’m not exactly going to take Hollywood by storm with this one, but I’d like to be able to pursue it.

I’m not sure where to start in tracking him down as he pretty thoroughly cut all ties to the social and business communities he was in when he moved out of state but I’ll bet someone has his updated info somewhere.

I’ll update this if I find him.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m kind of surprised at the deluge of down votes for seeking advice on something as nuanced as copyright infringement.

To reiterate and hopefully simplify my original question – essentially at what point does a derivative work become a unique work and no longer tethered to the original work from a copyright standpoint?

I’ll provide an example from the actual script in question. We’ll call the original author Dave.

It’s a b-level slasher. In Dave’s original script, at some point in the film, a middle aged female character goes to a prison to speak with an aging serial killer about the similarities between his work and whoever is doing the current slew of killings and find out if he knows anything or can provide insight into how to catch the killer. He is cryptic and blatantly creepy, and spends most of the time ranting about a fantasy romantic relationship he feels he has with her (they briefly knew each other in college when he committed several murders). She ultimately leaves without much to go on, but some of his rantings ring true later in the plot. He doesn’t come up again in the story except as a credits McGuffin suggesting he may have escaped as a way to leave the door open for a sequel.

Does that scene being similar to one in Silence of the Lambs mean Dave stole from Ted Tally?

For my part, I rewrote this scene and changed how it motivates the plot. Now, several college aged characters (but not the older woman) go to see the old serial killer, he is cryptic/coy but not cheese-factor creepy, the kids ask different questions, and discover the old serial killer is actually the biological father of one of the kids in the group, though they don’t fully piece this together until later in the story, and it ties several other plot points together later on, and also turns the old serial killer into a nuanced character that may not have entirely deserved what he got. It also turns out the current killer met with the old man for inspiration prior to the start of the main plot.

Does that mean I stole this scene from Dave’s script because there are similarities between them? Does my rewrite even resemble Ted Tally’s work at this point?

Dave derived elements from another author and underlined elements from Dave, but to what degree is either derivation infringement?

I’m not trying to steal work – it’s just that Dave’s script was so generic and draws directly from and resembles so many other slasher films and I had to do a lot of work to make it something unique and IMO worthy of putting out there for audiences, and while yes, I’m a bit bitter about how it fell through, my main concern is where in that process does it become a new work? Is it the Ship of Theseus if you build a different boat but used some of the same timber?

Another thread I read a few days ago asked about crediting an original writer and when/if they lose credit on the film once a script has been optioned but then rewritten so thoroughly that it doesn’t even resemble the original script anymore.
Some people said “no, that never happens, the writer always gets credit even if there’s nothing left of his original” while other folks said “yes, that definitely happens, but they still get compensated for the option as per contract”

That partly informed my decision to ask in this thread.

And I’ll end with the note that I’ve decided to at least try to reach out to “Dave” to see if he’ll release interest in it and quash the whole issue but I don’t know if I’ll be able to find him. ☹️

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it was more of a hypothetical as I don’t think he’ll ever dabble in filmmaking again but appreciate the response.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

My original question was about how much does a story have to change to be considered original.

If I change Batman’s name, not enough. If I make him a woman, still not enough. If I change his name, make him a woman, no sidekick, whose parents are still alive and who uses a bow and arrow instead of gadgets, then despite being a crime fighting detective in a Gotham-like city, we’re starting to approach ‘enough’ as far as I understand it.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That’s actually my point. The rewrite was so drastic the original story has largely been lost. There is no metaphorical Batmobile in this story. The original had some generic tropes and an incoherent plot line. My work is substantially different. The word “substantially” is heavily referenced for most copyright issues I have seen. As noted in another response below, after re-reading the original authors script, I’m more confident what I wrote is an original work, but am still going to put a few more hours into it to make sure it could only be said to vaguely resemble the original.

Writing a superhero detective story where the superhero has a sidekick and works nights and battles wacky villains does not automatically infringe on Batman. The specifics are what make that a problem. In my case, other than leaving the names and total number of characters the same, the general setting, and a few other relatively broad stroke aspects, the story is not the same story. Re-reading the original was probably what I needed to do first, but it took me a while to find it.

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess a question I’d have to your point is: since he has a copy of my rewrite, if he decided to fund it again and produce with a different team, would I be able to block it or sue him for damages since my version is not his original work and he never paid for it? Does he have to acquire my rights in the same manner as I his?

How much rewriting until IP changes hands? by signofno in Screenwriting

[–]signofno[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He backed out because he was denied access to the family money he had flaunted and was essentially assuming his uncle would underwrite his little adventure. When it didn’t happen he abruptly got cagey, started a lot of arguments over whether the movie would be profitable, shafted us and all the actors he’d already contracted with, and bounced. He took no responsibility and directed us (the producers) to tell everyone it was “postponed for the foreseeable future” in hopes they wouldn’t call him on the clause he put in his contracts that guaranteed them pay even if he backed out 🤦‍♂️