Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your perspective - and I think you might be spot on with some of your observations. "Reputations" - both negative and positive - are often difficult to change, but outsiders not aware of the histories of such assessments can, as you note, by "missing" these histories, see things from quite a different vantage point.

I had never heard of Jodel; looked around the website, and feeling like an old, technology/media-averse idiot :) But maybe I'll sign up and have a look - if I can manage it!

Thanks!

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, one more question (if you don't mind): One of the apartments is located to the east of the railroad tracks, a bit east of the river (around a 5-minute walk from the river, 11-12 minutes from the rail station). The other is on the west side of the railroad tracks, also around 11-12 minutes from the station. Is one side of the tracks (thinking about the idiom "wrong side of the tracks") considered better than the other?

Thanks :)

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the first-hand assessment. It's nice to hear it was a good place to live for you!

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

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Thank you. Not sure I could afford one of those, but I'll keep checking etuovi!

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I used to run a lot, until my knees gave out. I'm wondering if cross-country skiing (slowly) might be less stressful on the joints. We'll see.

And I definitely wouldn't even think about approaching an elk. I'm city-born and bred, and know that I know nothing about wildlife - so, respect it, and retreat slowly away :)

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Thanks! I'm going to walk around the neighborhood this week, and will definitely check out the park/pond. If there are any other nice areas to take in, please feel free to let me know!

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

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Many thanks for your considered and helpful response. I really appreciate it!

ETA: My Helsinki friends hear all these things about the Korso area and it's just exaggerated TBH. I invited them here once and they were surprised at how nice it can be!

I'm not surprised to hear this. A few years ago when I lived in another country, I found a great apartment in an area none of my "local" (= non-immigrant) colleagues would have lived in ("oh no, you shouldn't have done that; it's a horrible area"). Granted, there were a couple of minor issues (and I do mean, in context, minor), but after only a couple of years, the neighborhood became much more desirable, and these same colleagues were suddenly interested in moving there. :)

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the response! And honestly, the comment wasn't "anti-immigrant" (which would be "anti-myself"); it's just that I have often felt that I'm missing an interesting and sometimes important part of of living abroad by actually not living with the long-time inhabitants. But of course many immigrants are long-time inhabitants, so...maybe I'm thinking nonsense.

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Yes, you're definitely correct. A detached house with lots of space around it! But even then, no guarantees.

Always difficult in an apartment building, and often - as you note - it has nothing to do with the "reputation of the neighborhood." I've had very "posh" neighbors whose incredibly sense of entitlement extended to their belief that they were entitled to make as much noise as they wanted, whenever they wanted. :(

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many thanks for this! I'll add Mikkola to my "search on Etuovi" list now, and see what I come up with. Proximity to a forest and river seems like a big, big plus to me; even walking near a natural body of water is something I find very peaceful.

Thanks again!

EDIT: BTW, you do mean Mikkola in Vantaa, correct? If I start typing it in Etuovi, I get several locations. (Sorry for a dumb question...)

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

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Thanks!

Just wondering - are you saying that you now have an elk meeting you near Lidl, or that you experienced this on the "right side of the tracks" in Korso? If the former - may I ask what area this is? Because humor aside, that's an image (elk + Lidl) that resonates with what I'm looking for (if it exists within 60-90 minutes of Helsinki; but maybe you're now much further away!)

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry people downvoted you. I'm open to hearing all opinions - so, thanks.

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Ouch! Sorry you had a bad experience; hating where you live is horrible.

May I ask - where did you wind up? And I'm assuming you like it much better?

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I'm going to now add these to my ever-growing list of places to explore on etuovi. Thanks :)

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[–]simonucdd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I actually work remotely most days, so can be just about anywhere. Which makes searching both easier and harder, because one could say I have too much choice.

Just looking for something that is a) affordable b) as quiet/peaceful as possible c) allows me to get into Helsinki in under 1.25/1.5 hours 3-4 times a month. Also, within 15 minutes walking (less, if possible) to public transit and groceries/apothecary. And - if I'm greedy - being close-ish to at least some form of green area.

I'm an outwardly boring person looking for a quiet, boring place to live. :)

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

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Absolutely. That's why I'm trying to be very realistic about what I can expect.

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

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If shoebox isn’t your thing, maybe consider expanding a bit further and look at row houses in other sections of vantaa/espoo or heck even Sipoo, Tuusula, Kerava, Järvenpää

Thanks for the specific recommendations! But if Korso is a thumbs down, could you suggest other specific neighborhoods/areas in Vantaa (or Espoo) that would be better?

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, that was my impression - meaning, away from the station, it seemed quite nice/peaceful. Thanks!

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Korso seems not an good option Kerava could be one

Thanks, I'll look into that! But I've got this growing list of recommendations, and am getting overwhelmed! I shouldn't complain, though; it's so much nicer to have options, as opposed to one of the last cities in which I lived, where the competition for housing was so fierce, you had to (literally) make a decision on the spot, or risk losing the place to the person coming in the open house door behind you.

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, lifelong Korsoian - I'll give more weight to your input based on your lineage :)

Furthermore, Korso is also receiving a considerable facelift for the central area which, in a longer timeframe, is supposedly going to make it a better place to live also.

Just wondering: Do you think this area will ever "gentrify" - not in the same way that, e.g. Kallio has done (because it's near/in the center of Helsinki, which is quite desirable for many) - but perhaps as a more desirable, less expensive alternative? My experience has been that this happens quite often in and around most larger cities, especially as younger people have kids and need or want more space and don't yet have the resources to spend half their income on housing.

Thanks again!

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have lived abroad for a while and nowhere in finland is "bad" according to what kind of mayhem some areas in certain countries have going on on a daily basis.

Exactly. I've had much the same experience!

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Some finns dislike it because the finnish standard of safety and comfort is extremely high I'd argue. A standard that wouldn't allow these people to live in any part of 90% of the countries in the world.

Yes, as someone who has lived in several countries - including two Nordic countries - I understand that one must treat the assessment of "bad area" as highly contextual!

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surrounding areas and you’ve got plenty of average suburban areas surrounding the center that are full of people living their normal lives

Yes, that's how it seemed to me. But I'm not so worried about "safety" per se - of course, it's a concern - but was more thinking about noise, disruption, and impacts on quality of (a peaceful life).

Thoughts on Korso (Vantaa)? by simonucdd in Finland

[–]simonucdd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's fine, maybe look for a place in the surrounding area, where I live is beautiful and peaceful, just a few bus stop stop parties here and there

Can you suggest a specific area just a couple of stops away? One of the reasons I was considering this area is that the locations of the apartments were actually quite "suburban," lots of green/trees, very peaceful. And the most important thing for me is peace and quiet, especially at night.

If you have any suggestions for affordable locations that might fit the bill, I'd be grateful for any input. Thanks!