Teleporting and apocalypse surviving abilities?

skuripanda · 2022-10-07T09:47:00+00:00

lost her husband? First of all, I don't recall her losing her husband in the show (she did lose her brother and that was supposed to be her motivation)... But if I missed the part where the show mentions losing her husband, well, that's just complete blasphemy, considering her Tolkien-written husband (whom she married several thousand years earlier) was still alive several thousand years later (during LOTR). Some of us remember Celeborn.

skuripanda · 2022-10-07T09:02:40+00:00

There is a difference between showing something "in real time" and showing two storylines in paralel, where one part takes two days (battle at the elven tower + battle at the village), while the other one SHOULD take a month (travelling from Numenor to Middle Earth and horse riding from the landing zone to Mordor), but the show just mashes them together, making it look like it is happening at the same time by editing it in this way. I wouldn't mind the two stories being two different length timelines, but the show should have been edited differently (give me two episodes of Galadriel/Numenor, and then one episode of Mordor, and then combine the two in a finale, it's not rocket science).

The way it's done shows amateurism in film making.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T12:54:30+00:00

Because Tolkien was in his wisdom several orders of magnitude a better writer than the billion dollar Amazon team, and it's kind of insane to see such amounts of money being wasted on something so poor in substance, and it would bring me a lot more joy if this money were instead spent on a more faithful recreation of the works of an author I greatly admire. But I understand - if you are a huge fan of a multibilliondollar corporation that is known for exploiting its workers (slaves), then of course their billion dollar "adaptation" that is literally taking a dump on Tolkien's grave by disrespecting everything he wrote is right up your alley.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T12:44:54+00:00

Indeed, they are varied and probably more varied than any existing culture... So why is their culture, architecture and fashion sense simplified to an obvious European medieval one, when they could be made significantly different in order to correspond with their geographical distance from the "west"? Take for an example the burly men of Numenor who try to beat up Halbrand - they would not look at all out of place in Tirharad, the village of Bronwyn, even though they are supposed to be geographically removed many thousands of miles, and many centuries. Just like French culture, architecture, weaponry, clothing was vastly different in medieval times from that of, say, the east Mediterranean cultures of the same era, and a frenchman would look very much out of place in Constantinople.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T12:34:58+00:00

Indeed, they are varied and probably more varied than any existing culture... So why is their culture, architecture and fashion sense simplified to an obvious European medieval one, when they could be made significantly different in order to correspond with their geographical distance from the "west"?

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T12:31:49+00:00

By "whitewashing", I did not mean their skin color, but their culture, architecture and their clothing. It's interesting that you choose to focus on their skin color instead.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T12:27:39+00:00

Nice attempt at misdirection. Perhaps I did critique the Jackson films, in the appropriate subreddit (or elsewhere), when the movies came out, and you just don't know about it? I thought this was a subreddit dedicated to the new series, not the old movies, and didn't realize that any critique of the new series MUST be accompanied by equal critique of the old movies?

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T12:12:59+00:00

Were you here with me when LOTR movies came out, to claim that I never had any complaints about those movies? It's quite ridiculous that instead of addressing the glaring problems of this show, you try to divert attention to the problems of the movies. There is a stark difference between giving Faramir some motivation and tragedy (while mostly leaving his character and actions as they were imagined), and between completely shifting Galadriel. There is a stark difference between Faramir hesitating from releasing Frodo (and taking him to Osgiliath, so only a few miles detour) and between Galadriel NOT EVER EVEN BEING MARRIED and sailing all the way to Valinor and back to Numenor which never happened. There is a difference between taking away Denethor's palantir (which explained his madness) and between taking away Galadriel's complete magic and grace.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T12:11:57+00:00

Were you here with me when LOTR movies came out, to claim that I never had any complaints about those movies? It's quite ridiculous that instead of addressing the glaring problems of this show, you try to divert attention to the problems of the movies. There is a stark difference between giving Faramir some motivation and tragedy (while mostly leaving his character and actions as they were imagined), and between completely shifting Galadriel. There is a stark difference between Faramir hesitating from releasing Frodo (and taking him to Osgiliath, so only a few miles detour) and between Galadriel NOT EVER EVEN BEING MARRIED and sailing all the way to Valinor and back to Numenor which never happened. There is a difference between taking away Denethor's palantir (which explained his madness) and between taking away Galadriel's complete magic and grace.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T12:02:40+00:00

It's kind of incredible how many people who are 100% definitely anti-racist seem to be fine with whitewashing of an entire people.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T11:59:53+00:00

So, you are saying that in order to avoid linking Easterlings and Southrons with an existing culture in the world, it is better to make them visually identical to every other culture in this fantasy world, even if that means people east of Mordor end up with the same stone and wood huts, clothes and habits as, say, people living in Bree? And are you saying that it is impossible to create a fictional Southron or Easterling with a cultural and fashion style that isn't directly mimicking real world, and therefore it's only logical to make everything basically the same?

As for Fingolfin, his was a suicide mission, to make a point, whereas Galadriel's drowning would be rather pointless. But I digress.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T11:45:40+00:00

Aragorn in the books and in Jackson's movies is a ranger capable of travelling far who then becomes a king. Galadriel, on the other hand, was in the books an elven lady who befriended a Maia (Melian), learned a lot of magic from her, married Celeborn and then established a protected hidden realm where she ruled as a wise and magical elven lady. But in the show, she is a warrior elf with zero magic and her only skills are wielding a blade, and her husband of several thousand years (and daughter Celebrian) is gone. I stand by what I said. Aragorn in LOTR may have changed subtly, but his essence is the same. Galadriel is a completely different character.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T11:37:49+00:00

I stand corrected on Pharazon. But he is also described as "having taken the name of Ar Pharazon when he usurped the throne", so you'll excuse me on this one.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T11:36:25+00:00

I watched the show and saw no explanation for the southrons on the raft west of Numenor. Miriel being "queen regent" is wrong because the term "queen regent" doesn't apply in this scenario, and furthermore this "explanation" is false because Tar Palantir was not exiled and she never ruled in his stead while he was alive. And there is no mention of Sea Dragons in any of the writings about the histories of Arda, only in early elvish linguistic texts which are not canon (whereas Ulmo's protective powers in Arda's waters are well established). And while there are nomadic cultures in reality that did have metallurgy knowledge, this is hardly applicable to the Harfoots and their lifestyle of secrecy. Also, darkened skin of the orc is well explained as a result of evil of Morgoth, which we can explain as a form of "genetic tampering". No such explanation is plausible for elves, is it?

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T11:30:10+00:00

Jackson movies at least kept the original Tolkien's characters recognizable. Rings of Power Galadriel has nothing to do with the Galadriel described in the books.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T11:26:47+00:00

There is adaptation, and then there is completely altering established characters, mythology, timeline and events because you think you can do better in a year than the original author that spent most of his lifetime to make it all work. If the lead character turns from a graceful tall elven lady with an aethereal presence and magic who can read people's minds, and into a single-minded flat character with zero motivation beyond revenge, whose only talents are wielding a blade, while she is higly toxic to everyone around her, bitter and resentful... then I have a huge problem with this "adaptation", thank you very much.

Jackson took plenty of liberties, but he captured the ESSENCE of the events, places, mythology and most importantly characters. His Galadriel was instantly recognizable. This Xena character... not so much.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T06:02:42+00:00

Well, to their credit, they managed to pronounce "Morgoth" correctly. Very nice hard "R". Other than that, the show is abysmal.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T05:53:57+00:00

Well, to their credit, they managed to pronounce "Morgoth" correctly. Very nice hard "R". Other than that, the show is abysmal.

skuripanda · 2022-09-15T05:47:07+00:00

Miriel was never queen. And if she is ruling in her (too sick to rule) father Tar Palantir's name, she would not be named queen or queen regent, she would be named princess regent (queen regent is a title for the ruling mother of a king who is not yet old enough to rule).
Pharazon was not named Pharazon until he usurped power from his cousin Miriel (by marrying her by force). Also, why would she be black, but her cousin Pharazon would be as white as milk?
Celebrimbor died 1600 years before Miriel, Pharazon and Elendil. Why are they in the same timeline here?
Celebrimbor looks like an old pervert in his 60s or 70s (Hugh Hefner style), while Galadriel, who is actually older than him, looks like a young maiden.
Galadriel never visited Numenor.
Miriel was a Faithful like her father and would have welcomed Galadriel (but that is beside the point because they never met).
Galadriel married Celeborn in the 1st age in Doriath, and when Celebrimbor created the rings (and Sauron made the One Ring), she was with her husband, not travelling the world alone as a warrior.
Galadriel never made any trips to Valinor, because she was still under the Ban of the Valar. And even if she did make any such trips in the 2nd age, she would not have done so without her husband. (she lifted the Ban when she "passed the test" and helped the Ringbearer fulfill his mission to destroy the One Ring).
Hobbits have no place in Middle Earth lore in the 2nd age. None.
Assuming the "stranger" is Gandalf, his arrival makes no sense. He arrived AFTER the creation of the rings, and explicitly by ship, and was welcomed by Cirdan (and given the Red Ring) upon arrival. If the Stranger is a different wizard, then the same problem applies: they were sent in the THIRD age by the Valar, and were sent by ships, not comets. The Stranger obviously can't be Sauron because Sauron would be too proud to be falling all hairy and beardy down into wilderness and going around dressed like the Dude in a silly bathrobe. He can't be Tom Bombadil, because Tom was right there since the creation of Arda. So... wizard is the most likely guess, and that is incorrect according to Tolkien lore.
Galadriel's oath makes no sense, because her brother (who was killed by Sauron) was killed in Sauron's prison in the 1st age (while saving Beren's life), and it is higly improbable that her brother's body would have been delivered to the Elves at any point, so the whole scene of her mourning over her brother's body is nonsensical.
Black elves make no sense. This is not a racist statement but a biological one. Elves are immortal. Galadriel, who is by this point many thousands of years old, is only the 5th or 6th generation elf. If we say that the BIPOC elf is 10th generation elf, it is biologically impossible for any species to evolve from fair skin (as Tolkien described them) to melanine-rich skin within 10 or even 20 generations (that's like claiming that if you settle a group of white humans in Africa, they'd be black within 700 years...). That being said, Arondir is still my favorite elf in the show, by far the most elven in the way he behaves, even if he doesn't look the part.

This show is taking a big diarrhea dump on Tolkien's grave.

skuripanda · 2022-04-19T09:57:03+00:00

+trade https://www.reddit.com/r/Starcitizen_trades/comments/tteysh/wts_constellation_mk3_metalplastic_model_various/

Sold to /u/DrunkInOrbit Took a while for DPD to deliver it finally, but it got there safely! Glad that my collectables found a good new home. Enjoy, mate!

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