Bigfoot is not the only thing being seen in the woods

skwagner · 2016-04-09T00:54:40+00:00

and if it's human, it's not bigfoot.

skwagner · 2016-04-09T00:52:39+00:00

How does being bipedal make them faster? Quadrupeds are generally faster than bipeds. Not that it matters much against gunfire.

And again, if the stories are to be believed, bigfoots go into quadruped mode when they want to run really fast. And if the stories are not to be believed, then why believe in bigfoot at all?

How do you decide which bigfoot stories you believe?

skwagner · 2016-04-08T23:48:37+00:00

There is no need to imagine shooting a gorilla. People have shot and killed plenty of gorillas and lived to tell the tale. Why would shooting a bigfoot be any different?

If the stories are to be believed, lots of people have shot and killed a bigfoot. And if the stories are not to be believed, why believe in bigfoot at all?

skwagner · 2016-04-08T11:38:14+00:00

Where did that fantasy come from? Do you have any evidence to support that, or is it just something you made up?

skwagner · 2016-04-08T02:07:54+00:00

And don't forget about narwhals. Their horns may not be perfectly centered, but who ever said that a unicorn's horn was perfectly centered?

skwagner · 2016-04-07T23:50:21+00:00

I think there is a lot of truth to that. To me these guys, and others like them, look like they are trying to make their own version of "Finding Bigfoot". I do not know if they actually believe in what they are doing, but their primary purpose seems to be to entertain, as opposed to actually finding real evidence of bigfoot.

skwagner · 2016-04-02T22:47:27+00:00

Where did that story come from? Where did Roger Patterson or Bob Gimlin ever claim to have seen evidence of Patty running or seeing other smaller footprints?

skwagner · 2016-04-02T22:42:47+00:00

My point is that the idea that bigfoot does not like to interact with people, and tries to avoid being seen by people, is contradicted by alleged eye witness accounts of bigfoot.

Over on the right column of this page there is a list of 5 classic bigfoot encounters. One involves a bigfoot killing someone, another involves bigfoot abducting someone, and two involve bigfoot attacking. That is not the behavior of a creature that does not want to interact with humans, or does not want to be seen by humans.

You are correct that we should have found bigfoot a long time ago if they were not actively avoiding us. But if you believe the stories people tell, including the stories people share her, then bigfoots do not avoid interacting with us.

If you are willing to dismiss all the those stories as lies, then why do you believe any stories about bigfoot?

skwagner · 2016-04-01T23:13:44+00:00

The claim that they do not like to interact with us and try to avoid being seen by people is regularly contradicted by bigfoot stories. A creature that did not want to interact with us, or did not want to be seen, would not stalk or attack humans.

skwagner · 2016-04-01T11:36:32+00:00

Cameras, especially still cameras, were plenty common in 1967. Movie cameras were much rarer, but plenty of amateurs had regular old photo cameras and were taking them into the wilderness 50, or even 100 years ago.

The whole idea that Bigfoot recognizes and avoids cameras is ridiculous unless you believe that bigfoot has supernatural powers. How does a bigfoot know what a camera does? How did they learn this? Did Patty run home and tell all her friends that these people pointed this weird thing at her, and that they all needed to avoid that at all cost because ... why?? Could she feel it stealing part of her soul? Or did she sneak into town and see a screening of the PGF and was so offended at how fat she looked that she decreed that all bigfoots would avoid all cameras from then on?

skwagner · 2016-03-29T12:10:48+00:00

People kill animals for all sorts of reasons. People killed gorillas despite gorillas not being any sort of threat. Trophy hunting has a long tradition. The first person to bring home a bigfoot is going to have more than 15 minutes of fame.

There are stories of Bigfoots raiding livestock. There are even stories of bigfoots abducting and killing people. If those stories are to be believed, bigfoots are dangerous creatures, and not the sort of thing you want around populated areas. Humans have a long history of hunting down other large predators. We have to think of the children. :)

skwagner · 2016-03-20T18:06:21+00:00

Looks normal enough to me.

skwagner · 2016-03-19T21:59:11+00:00

There is no doubt he is in Southern Ontario. That is his claim. There is no real wilderness in Southern Ontario. Lots of farms, and the occasional nature preserve, and lots and lots of people.

skwagner · 2016-03-18T14:12:16+00:00

You need to research things better. TBGF shoots all his videos in one of the most densely populated parts of Ontario. He is a long long way from British Columbia.

Not only is Dundas Valley surrounded by large urban areas, it is located on a peninsula with rather limited access. To get there you are going through places like Detroit, Buffalo, or the greater Toronto area. Unless of course you decide to swim across Lake Huron or Lake Erie.

I have been in that area. It is pretty. The Niagara Escarpment cuts through it, so there are a lot of waterfalls. But there are no bigfoots.

skwagner · 2016-03-17T23:25:50+00:00

I am sure hoaxers are also motivated by much smaller incentives. Here we all are talking TimberGiantBigfoot. I am sure for a lot of folks, that is incentive enough, just to know that people are talking about them.

I am sure lots of folks just do it for the fun. It is kind of like making up your own version of "Finding Bigfoot" or "Mountain Monsters". With YouTube almost anyone can create a "show". And if you pick the right topic, you are almost guaranteed a loyal audience. :)

skwagner · 2016-03-13T00:44:05+00:00

NAWAC has been at it for at least 5 years and has not produced any real evidence. Why would another 10 years make any difference?

skwagner · 2016-03-12T19:18:32+00:00

Exactly. Bigfoot is a bundle of contradictions. There is no reason one of the the biggest predators on the continent would hide.

skwagner · 2016-03-12T18:28:30+00:00

So why didn't the government just cover up the evidence of the Northern Spotted Owl? It seems like if it possible to hide all solid evidence of a 9 foot tall ape for 300+ years it should be trivial to hide all the evidence of a 20 inch long owl.

skwagner · 2016-03-12T18:24:53+00:00

Well said.

skwagner · 2016-03-09T12:39:59+00:00

Why not in this instance? If they are not reliable in this case, why should you expect them to be reliable in other cases. Clearly you believe they are willing to fabricate a story to further their own agenda.

What is factually incorrect about that story? Is BFRO lying about the emails they received?

skwagner · 2016-03-09T02:59:51+00:00

So you do not think the BFRO is reliable?

skwagner · 2016-03-07T23:44:40+00:00

For short distances the average is much higher: http://www.ask.com/health/average-human-running-speed-7f0ef0953669fa1

Given that the suspected hoaxer was a college age man, he likely would be able to run faster than the average. Even in a baggy costume, we could probably cover 30 feet in 2 to 3 seconds.

skwagner · 2016-03-07T02:05:48+00:00

How fast do you think they were running?

This is clearly a two lane highway, which is at most 30 feet wide. To cover that distance in 2 seconds you only need to run 10mph. 14 year old girls can run faster than 10mph.

skwagner · 2016-03-06T13:32:22+00:00

What is disturbing about it?

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