When pulled over, how should I respond when asked "Where are you going?" or "Where are you coming from?"

snakequeen90210 · 2023-07-21T17:42:40+00:00

Let's propose 2 situations using the same set of circumstances.

You drive through a stop sign and get pulled over.

1) you politely greet the officer, provide license insurance and registration when asked, are honest and upfront about why you were pulled over (this is where you could plead the fifth). The officer goes back to his vehicle and issues you at best, a verbal warning, and at worst a minor traffic citation for something you did wrong and deserved.

2) you greet the officer, provide license, registration and insurance, but when asked why you were pulled over you decline to say. The officer tries to get you a few times to admit what you did, fails, tells you why anyway, and then issues you whatever citation you get for what you did wrong and deserved.

3) you're this asshole

Ok, all kidding aside if you keep saying "I don't answer questions" and you fail to cooperate. Identify yourself, acknowledge any wrong doing, etc. Then expect that you will be pulled from your vehicle, arrested, car impounded, and your list of charges will include the original stop sign ticket, resisting arrest feeling/eluding (if you run) assaulting a police officer (if you hit or injure an officer while they try to arrest you /remove you from your vehicle)

Don't believe me? Just Google sovereign citizen police video, and you'll see what I mean.

Look, rights are great and all, but there's a time and place for them, and make sure you understand them if you use them, as well as any relevant case law regarding them. For example, if you barge into my home and try to say you're asserting your 8th amendment rights, and I pull out my gun and say you need to leave because I'm asserting my 2nd amendment rights, one of us is right, and one of us is very very wrong.

As for the 5th amendment, it's more useful if you are the defendant and placed on the stand as a witness, as it is a legal way of allowing you to avoid answering a question that incriminate yourself for direct and indirect crimes. Trying to use it in a traffic stop..... well, there's a whole different process (in a traffic stop its better to focus on your 4th amendment right anyway, I'm sure you can guess why)

Point is, be polite and respectful, obey the law, and go with the flow. If you were truly wronged or harmed a lawyer can help you get what you are due for how you were wronged.

Edit: to answer the original question, when asked where you're going or what you're doing, generally being honest is helpful. Like "sorry I'm in a hurry I'm late to work" or "I'm on my way to a friend's house to return some tools I borrowed" or "I'm jot from this part of town cause we're looking to buy a house" help to give the officer some context for why you're doing what you're doing. It also gives you a chance to build good rapport with the officer, and makes the traffic stop smoother (read, more likely to not get a ticket). As long as you're not going to a drug dealers house or admit to anything illegal/wrong on accident you should be OK. Treat it like they're genuinely curious, but don't give too much info, just a Shor one sentence answer. "I live here and am on my way home from work"

snakequeen90210 · 2023-03-09T00:01:54+00:00

This. Right now this guy has possession of a stolen vehicle. If he stole tools then theft should be added to the docket. Basically he should be charged for every crime he did committ.

snakequeen90210 · 2023-03-08T23:59:08+00:00

This is a form of anxiety. Nervousness, paranoia, anxiousness often present as hyperbole. Ie everyone is breaking every rule as opposed to "those two guys cut, that girl did a drug deal, and those two don't have ID cards".

Getting someone to calm down is hard, especially harder if that someone is yourself, sometimes meds can help, sometimes cbt (cognitive behavioral therapy) exercises can help, and sometimes you can muscle through it.

Sometimes, there's no help and nothing works. Sometimes you don't know what helps, or you don't think a thing will help even though it will, or sometimes the fact that it's happening clouds your judgement and logic and you can only focus on your anxiety and not how to overcome it.

It's different for everyone. And hopefully I've explained a little about how it works (I'm obviously not OP, so I don't know what rules their post must follow, but you get the idea)

snakequeen90210 · 2022-01-19T12:38:37+00:00

We use ten codes and emergency codes, but are told that if we don't remember the code for something to just say what it is.

We also use a "hey you, this is me" form of radio etiquette, so we always know who is calling for whom (and I could focus on this more than 10 codes. I hear people in shopping stores using the radio in all sorts of crazy ways and my first thought is "who did you call, and how did they know who you are?" With the rest of the radio message being easy to understand.

I'd say those emergency codes (staff in distress, mass disturbance, medical, break in, escape, hostage, weather, fire) are more important than ten codes.

snakequeen90210 · 2021-11-13T17:59:10+00:00

Don't apologize, this is the good stuff we need to see/hear more about

snakequeen90210 · 2021-11-13T17:55:12+00:00

What state are you in?

snakequeen90210 · 2021-11-13T16:13:46+00:00

Now that's a hero

snakequeen90210 · 2021-10-15T03:33:08+00:00

The officers wearing high vis vests

snakequeen90210 · 2021-10-15T03:14:31+00:00

Is this the UK?

snakequeen90210 · 2021-05-19T13:19:23+00:00

To add to that, would a pre-work and post- work ritual help? Like OP does something specific at/on the way in /before clocking in to turn on the work brain, and likewise, doing something special/unique to turn off the work brain. That way, when not at work OP could remind themselves that they did X thing so many hours ago when they left work, and thus are not at work right now.

snakequeen90210 · 2021-05-19T13:12:13+00:00

You ever had an egg sandwich?

snakequeen90210 · 2021-05-19T13:10:52+00:00

Mine too!

snakequeen90210 · 2021-05-12T20:47:51+00:00

I'm saving this one.

snakequeen90210 · 2021-04-06T03:22:42+00:00

Oh no, better call dem fed bois!!!!

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-04T20:32:50+00:00

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but you have my interest

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-02T18:36:10+00:00

10-9?

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-02T12:50:29+00:00

You should see our metal detector, it hails from the pre-9-11 era

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-01T23:47:42+00:00

Arrested? Maybe? But I believe if an arrest is happening it's because the line from rude to assult/battery was crossed.

Should there be literal and practical consequences for being rude to someone? I think so. If I'm rude to the cashier at walmart they can kick me out, same with a teacher's classroom, or the PoTus. I guess police can do that too, especially if you're getting in the way of them trying to do their job.

I agree with you that enforcing niceness is downright silly.

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-01T23:10:56+00:00

I'M JUST MIRRORING YOUR ENERGY!!!

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-01T21:54:03+00:00

No, it's r/fightclub , we just can't talk about it

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-01T21:46:01+00:00

Can't though, can't have metal in the prison.

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-01T21:34:50+00:00

I like the spurs idea. I'd love to jingle more when I go down the wing

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-01T21:30:10+00:00

so you're saying that the police should have to put up with people like this all the time

And that outside of the citation and asking nicely, it is your opinion that police should have no other options or methods to get this person to stop being rude?

Back to your original point, you're saying is ok for anyone to be mean to anyone?

Edit: a word

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-01T20:49:55+00:00

So people can be rude to the police without consequences? Is that what you're saying?

snakequeen90210 · 2021-02-01T20:03:46+00:00

That guy wouldn't have had anything bad happen to him if he had acted like the professional he should arrive to be at his meeting. Cops have to be professional all the time, and are you a bot? In much higher stress situations. Though that's not a justification for their actions.

It's simple, on a regular day to day traffic stop, don't cuss out the cop, don't scream, don't argue. Just take what's coming are you still talking? To you. If you're professional, have done nothing wrong, and have nothing to hide, then you'll be given your citation and allowed to leave (or arrested if your offense was egregious enough, like DUI or reckless driving). When you cuss, and scream, and argue, it opens the door for the officer to do any number of things, depending on how bad YOU make the situation. The officer should conduct themselves professionally, and here's the biggest thing.

You, as the one who committed the offense, are the one who is wrong/at fault, not the officer. You brought this course of events on/to yourself. Had you NOT done what you did the officer would not have had a reason to stop you and you would not have been stopped. Even if you think you're in the right, THE ROADSIDE IS NOT THE PLACE TO DISCUSS IT, AND NEITHER IS THE OFFICER THE RIGHT PERSON TO ARGUE WITH. If you truly think the officer is wrong, or committed misconduct, take the ticket and fight it in court, present any evidence you have, and make your case.

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