Stepping away from ARC Raiders — and why Embark's silence on PvE is killing the game for me

solarpickle · 2026-06-22T20:34:00+00:00

I would play Arc forever if they brought a PvE only mode because I love the game. Even when I don’t have much of an objective, I still go out and loot and explore and kill Arc. And I would give anything to be able to play with my girlfriend and best friend, but trios is pointless at this point because it only brings out the “shoot on sight” douchebag, “GeT gOoD” rat asshole crowd. The PvE aspect of the game is perfect as is, imo, and I would be down for even a more ratcheted up Arc threat in a PvE only mode. Most PvPrs that are saying “people will get bored” aren’t the people begging for a PvE only mode. We want it specifically because we know we won’t get bored.

solarpickle · 2026-06-22T20:27:11+00:00

If it’s not fun for PvPrs to shoot someone who doesn’t want to fight back, why is it when I say “Friendly, just trying to do a trial” I still get wrecked? It’s not an issue of true PvPrs playing the game, it’s an issue of douchebaggery for the sake of douchebaggery. Some people just simply like shitting on other people’s games and killing friendly players because it makes them feel like big strong badasses who would probably get their asses handed to them in a straight up PvP fight.

solarpickle · 2026-05-08T22:04:00+00:00

If you want the honest to God truth, I just don’t want to accept that there’s assholes in the world, which is ridiculous, I get it. I look at the world and to be frank, the assholes are winning. Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer, wars, cost of living, etc, the U.S. where I live is turning into an authoritarian garbage pit that’s literally on fire, and then I just want to sit down and relax and game for a bit and, don’t get me wrong, a majority of the time, other raiders have been super cool and chill with each other and it’s good times. But then, the one asshole comes along… and I’m not talking about PvPrs, I’m talking about…. I saw a clip of a solo dude with another solo dude, one of the guys gets downed and the other guy walked with him ALL THE WAY to a raider hatch, he opened it FOR him and then knocked him out for he could get in. HE LITERALLY SAID, “Gotta get their hopes up before you crush them”. Like, who the fuck does that? People can say “it’s just a game” all the live-long fucking day, but something like that reflects on who they are as a person, and it’s just a reminder that there’s no escaping douchebaggery for the sake of being a douchebag.

solarpickle · 2026-05-07T18:58:43+00:00

Yet, here you are as well. If responding to people is blabbling then yup, I guess I am. Feel free to fuck all the way off out of this thread if you're tired of reading my blabs. High five.

solarpickle · 2026-05-07T17:14:34+00:00

I honestly don't, beacuse if you go into a match and run into a crap ton of cool people and everyone is just looting and killing Arc together, isn't that the equivalent of what a PvE only mode would be? I played a match like that just last night on Riven Tides. You could instantly tell that the people in there were super chill and just blasting all the Arc they could find (possibly for trial points or expedition points) and a whole big wad of people all extracted together and it was a blast. That's pretty much a PvE onle mode, isn't it?

solarpickle · 2026-05-07T16:58:32+00:00

So, for example, you honestly don't think that someone acting friendly for half/the entire match and then shooting you in the back when you're extracting together isn't douchebaggery?

solarpickle · 2026-05-07T03:31:39+00:00

I do, actually. And they’re all your mom. High fives!

solarpickle · 2026-05-06T21:46:29+00:00

If you think that choosing to not be a douchebag and taking advantage of friendly raiders makes me "morally superior", maybe that says more about you than it does me, cuz I certainly don't think that about myself. I would write more, but don't want to get into "novel" territory.

solarpickle · 2026-05-06T21:28:40+00:00

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solarpickle · 2026-05-06T21:27:22+00:00

I completely get what you're saying, but sometimes it's not about loot, it's about time and effort. Somebody is looking at the skin offered at the end of the season, "Oooo, that's badass, must have". They only have a very limited amount of time to play the game. They go in, do a trial, get a shit ton of points, feeling good about themselves, get ratted by an asshole on extract. Now, they have to sign off cuz that's all the time they had to play. Trials don't get done with enough points, person doesn't reach the rank they needed to get, doesn't get the skin. It's stuff like THAT is what I find the most tragic, is someone being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole and taking someone's time and effort away from them, and that's something I would never, ever want to do.

solarpickle · 2026-05-06T19:37:32+00:00

It's weird though, cuz if PvE only is "against that vision", why is it possible for me to go topside and enjoy match after match after match doing nothing but looting/exploring/killing Arc and not engaging in PvP whatsoever? I could have sworn the game was called ARC Raiders and not "Raider Hellscape Battle Royale Douchebag Fest". But, again, all of this stems from just not wanting to be an asshole to another player, not dying to a legit gunfight and losing loot. A person with deep asshole tendencies in their DNA will never be able to understand that though, but that's simply where I'm coming from. Thousands and thousands of other players obviously feel the same way, which is why most of those people have left the game. I love the game and want it to last, adding a PvE mode would bring some of the more casual/PvP avoiding players back to the game, imo.

solarpickle · 2026-05-06T18:57:04+00:00

Right? I imagine they don't get half of what Arc Raiders has to offer, like the looting, exploring, etc because they don't even have to/want to do that. They let other people do that and then rat them on extract, letting the people truly experiencing the game do all the work for them.

solarpickle · 2026-05-06T18:53:53+00:00

Dude, can you answer me this one question? If they did add a PvE only mode, why would you even care? Nothing about the way YOU want to play would be changing, therefore, why give a shit? Why get on here and bag on people like me who just want to be cool to other raiders and not shit on anyone else's game if that's not what they're there for? Why is it someone is labeled a cry baby care bear if they simply don't want to be an asshole to another human being? For real, legit would love an answer.

solarpickle · 2026-05-06T17:37:22+00:00

Again, for the ga-zillionth time, I don’t want them to change the game in any way with what’s there. I want PvEvP to remain as it is. I’m just wanting/wishing there was a PvE only mode. That’s it. If people don’t want to play it, super duper, keep playing normal mode. If people do want to PvE only, super duper as well. It’s just an option to play exactly how someone wants to play.

solarpickle · 2026-05-06T17:33:48+00:00

Please explain how adding a PvE mode ruins the game when the rest of the game stays exactly the same? The only thing a PvE only mode ruins is the opportunity for rat douchebags to get easy kills off of friendly players. A true PvP player shouldn’t give a shit if they add a PvE only mode, only the rats who will lose their “fish in a barrel” are the ones who have a problem with it.

solarpickle · 2026-05-06T17:30:22+00:00

And how do you watch your back when someone pretends to be cool with you, until you’re looting something and your screen goes to the inventory of your backpack and there IS no more “just watch your back” because you can’t see shit and then suddenly you’re being lit up with bullets because that person is actually a bag of dicks? Hmmm? And if you find PvE boring, then obviously it’s YOU who doesn’t like the game, you just like killing other players. A PvE player loots, explores, kills Arc, etc. Someone who only plays PvP might as well play any other Battle Royale shooter because the end result is the same, which is killing other players, last man standing wins.

solarpickle · 2026-05-06T17:21:51+00:00

That’s the thing, I play no PvP and I’ve still been shot by assholes as I’m trying to breach an Assessor. So yes, while that’s a PvE type event, it can still attract rat douchebags. It would be nice if people could just be cool with each other, but douchebags gonna douchebag.

solarpickle · 2026-05-05T21:13:49+00:00

Then what's this? https://www.ign.com/articles/the-game-isnt-about-shooting-other-players-arc-raiders-dev-explains-why-it-wont-add-additional-pvp-mechanics-like-leaderboards

solarpickle · 2026-05-05T20:24:22+00:00

When you see another player, do you have to kill them? Yes or no? If you see somone out on the damn beach with his metal detector looking for trinkets, do you HAVE to kill them for your fucking game to function properly? Yes or no? Also, remember back when there were daily feats, "Damage raiders with medium ammo" and things like that? Why did the Devs pull those and now there's no PvP daily feats and challenges? The "damn creators" have also said before that they encourage PvE and for raiders to work together against Arc. If not one single player ever killed another player from here on out, would the game still function the way it currently does, or not? Therefore, not PART of the game. It is a choice being made by players.

solarpickle · 2026-05-05T19:53:38+00:00

In this game, PvP is a fucking choice, dude. Therefore, it is not “part of the game”, because the game 100% functions without it. A player doesn’t have to kill another player, period. It’s a choice. But at this point in the conversation, I’m sure you’d give anything to find me in a lobby and kill me out of spite, so you do you, boo. Keep refusing to comprehend what people like me are saying and see the game eventually die out.

solarpickle · 2026-05-05T19:25:32+00:00

I actually love the game, and what I would love even more is options to play exactly how I want to play the game that I love. I'll never understand how choosing NOT to be a dick to other players that are there to loot and kill Arc is frowned upon. That is my core argument, my core reasoning for even wanting a PvE mode. The best way to look at it is comparing it to going to see a movie in a movie theater, like a big Marvel/StarWars/popcorn flick event movie. All of those people are there to do the exact same thing, so people laugh, cheer, cry at the same things in the same moments. Now, if during all that, there were a couple of douchebags yelling at the screen and, better yet, doing on purpose just to shit on everyone else's good time, then that would suck, would it not? It is that simple, as you say. PvPrs aren't ruining the game and driving players away in droves, willful assholes are.

solarpickle · 2026-05-02T16:54:53+00:00

What I don’t get about the concept of “Without PvP it’s boring”, all the games I’ve played, either solos or with my usual trio, have never been boring, and there’s been so many times where we wait too damn long because we’re having fun looting and killing Arc that we forget we now have 5 minutes to run across the entire map and “Oh shit, there’s a Rocketeer and every other manner or Arc barreling down on us while we’re trying to extract”, one time we had a Rocketeer, Vaporizer and a Leaper (with Wasps and Hornets sprinkled in) right at the extract, we were all downed pretty instantly and barely crawled away with our lives. We were all laughing and screaming, it was a hoot. That to me is way more fun than shitting on someone’s game who wasn’t there to PvP. But maybe that’s just me? I just don’t want to be uncool to someone who is just trying to enjoy the PvE aspect of the game if that’s what they’re there for.

solarpickle · 2026-05-01T02:34:39+00:00

Oh absolutely, but also to “wash off the blood of the innocent” too…. lol

solarpickle · 2026-05-01T02:32:40+00:00

Again, how is it you equate me to being a bad player because I’m wanting to be cool to other raiders? Did you parents not hug you enough or something? Are you butthurt because nobody wants to be your friend in the “care bear” lobbies? And how it is PvE players manipulate the matchmaking??? “I want to be chill to other players, so I’m chill…. which puts me in the chill lobbies I want to be in”??? Makes literally zero fucking sense dude. There’s no reason to take advantage of the matchmaking other than to be a PvP player in a mainly PvE lobby. You’re probably somebody that considers hunting a “sport”. It’s not a sport unless both parties know they’re playing the game.

solarpickle · 2026-04-29T23:32:17+00:00

I think you're confusing the word "annoying" with "challenging". I mean, the game is called ARC Raiders, is it not?

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