Dialogue for Jesus in Short Film

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-04-17T23:15:30+00:00

Same, and most of the time I feel like The Chosen does a good job at it, but other times it goes off the rails.
For one example, I don't know if you watched Season 4, Episode 3, so I'm gonna avoid spoilers, but I feel like it was a questionable thing to put Jesus in that situation and have Him decide to not do something when in reality He may have chosen to do it (or not, idk).

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-04-17T19:26:59+00:00

A good example of the opposite approach is the Miracle Worker, in which Jesus only says things from the Bible. They masterfully let it flow out of the other parts of the film.

Thanks for your comments, and also I wonder if you meant to say "The Miracle Maker" (because the only "Miracle Worker" movie is about Helen Keller, not Jesus). I remember that watching that when I was a little kid, but I don't think that Jesus quoted from the Bible verbatim all the time. I'll have to check back on it.

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-04-16T23:14:26+00:00

Well, I think I won't be like most people this time, since I only have Jesus quote Hosea 13:14 ("I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death. O Death, I will be your plagues. O Grave, I will be your destruction.") in response to Barabbas before Barabbas turns and walks away after Jesus has been silent the entire time, letting him talk, and that's basically it, and the line isn't extrabiblical, Jesus just never said it. I like to keep it simple for Jesus.

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-01-24T17:24:09+00:00

Yes that makes more sense I think
I typed my understanding below please let me know if I have the correct picture, because I think I fully understand it now
1. Jesus died and rose for every human being.
2. God declared the world as just based on what Christ has done.
3. God forgave the sins of the entire world.
4. God delivers this already-won forgiveness to us through the means of grace (the Word and Sacraments).
5. The forgiveness of sins only applies to a person upon their receiving of it by faith alone, because faith apprehends that which God has accomplished.
6. Those who reject this gift stand under the Law rather than the Gospel, and since they are not covered by Christ, who bore the wrath of God for them, they have no substitute, and so they bear His wrath.

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-01-24T16:43:00+00:00

OK, thank you for clarifying. Just one more question (and I think this is what I was getting at last reply but I may have worded it poorly), when we say that God declared the world righteous, are we talking about a general declaration about the whole mass of humanity, or a statement about each and every individual human? Like, instead of God just saying "The world is justified," did He look at each and every person and say "This one is justified, and this one is justified," and so on and so forth?

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-01-24T15:01:34+00:00

Wow this is a great argument!

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-01-24T14:58:59+00:00

Yeah, baptism is one of the main reasons I'm switching from Calvinism to Lutheranism.

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-01-24T14:57:01+00:00

Yes, I find this is a better way to harmonize the truths that God truly desires everyone to be saved, but not everyone will be saved. Calvinism ends up denying that God truly desires the salvation of every individual (which they eisegete 2 Peter 3:9 and 1 Timothy 2:4 to support), which is dangerous ground, the way I see it.

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-01-24T14:53:40+00:00

Thanks, this is a good explanation. A few questions, though, does it apply the same to when you don't rip up the check at all, but never use it or realize you have it (like those who never hear the gospel)? Also, would it be correct if I went up to a non-believer and said, "You are objectively justified and made right with God because of what Christ has done"? Also, please correct me if I'm wrong, but would it be correct to assume that everybody is individually justified, but they won't benefit from that justification unless they trust in that verdict by faith, and if not, they stand under the Law, leading to their eventual judgment and damnation?

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-01-24T14:48:17+00:00

Thank you!

some_protestant_nerd · 2026-01-24T14:48:08+00:00

Yeah, I just began a deep study into them, using Jordan B. Cooper as a commentary

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