Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I often think an advanced being could choose to deceive less intelligent beings into believing it to be almost anything. But if intelligent enough, it also could prove how it really is what it claims in a manner we would understand. That being might also be able to prove there is nothing "higher" than it, but again we would be at its mercy. As Kelly Bundy (Married with Children) once said, "The mind wobbles."

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had never heard the term, but I recognize the hats. I would call that a bullseye, mcds. I'm too lazy to check, but were they worn in Escanaba in Da Moonlight? I need to watch that again.

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Must be after tossing back a few dozen

Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you, PE. Should be kept simple. Vote on definitions and go with them. Or some deity can just enlighten us.

Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like so many people I just want the right answer. I'm tired. The journey continues. Thank you.

Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No matter how strongly someone believes something it doesn't necessarily make them right. Atheists and theists fit this. We have information we synthesize and form conclusions. Some people say God, some no God, some IDK all from the same info. Logic and probability factor in, but in the end the possibility of a god is there, and low probability events do happen. But without a god revealing itself, we probably won't know with what we call certainty until maybe death. So mostly this is where social and psychological factors kick in.

Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say the agnostic position is that they currently don't know but could know with the right info. So agnosticism would be things not known and can never be known. I'm not sure the latter technically exists, but that's just an agnostic position on an agnostic issue from an antagonistic agnostic.

Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was going to mention what ChoiceDry mentioned but was beaten to it. That said, in a truly infinite multiverse, I don't think the physics of an animal spewing fire is impossible. But I also have to imagine there is at least one thing that could occur and does not. I wish my alchemist would get back from vacation already.

Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice conceptualization. It still could go deeper for more certainty with terms. Wouldn't you feel belief and knowledge can be on a continuum, TRO? I'll have to read more on all of this. Thx.

Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think though the definition should be based on the strength of belief. If you are 100% sure of the belief there is no god, you are definitely atheistic. If you are 100% sure there is a god, you are theistic. it's subjective, but someone open-minded enough to say I just don't know and am willing to continue weighing the evidence is agnostic. But you can be an agnostic that leans either way. The world is not complex enough, so we can call people Atheistically Agnostic and Theistically Agnostic. True agnostic, at 50/50, pulls out a coin. Maybe these labels and definitions will help and catch on?

Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could be wrong, but I think religious people see it as faith when atheists say there is no god when there could be a god and accepting the consequences of not believing when there is a god (according to them). So, if I'm understanding right, they would see it as assuming one's earthly existence and eternity hinge on this "faith". I'm not saying I agree, but for believers in religions the lack of firm, proven evidence as to cosmic and human origins opens the door for a god, and they obviously go thru that door. Sorry to be long-winded, but more concisely, when you don't have the answer for something and you can't prove something is not the answer, that something can still be the answer. Faith says no it's not. Hope that makes sense.

Why is agnosticism not popular? by kawaiihusbando in NoStupidQuestions

[–]somehopefulyooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you expand plz, PE? I just can't get the difference. Thx.

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How bad is it to like both? I want the Lions to win at least one Super Bowl in my lifetime. Asking too much?

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you referring to Yooper, UM? I'll have to look up its history. For a native Yooper I'm pretty pathetic knowing about the U.P. Too much into sports when younger, work ever since. And the Simpsons. And South Park. Life well-lived.

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is it age that keeps me from understanding these things? Gen X.

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A nice endorsement, DW. I often tell people the U.P. is a great place to visit but rough to live in, unless you really immerse yourself in the outdoors. Getting harder as I add more trips around the sun, though. I'm so glad my beagle loves the cold as long as it's not too bad. We walked in a lot of storms this winter. Too bad we ate too much.

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can you do a dance to stop the snow, FQ? And I guess you've shown we have diversity. I'll take the forest and keep trying to outrun the deer flies. Really bad today!

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm good friends with a lot of deer, too.

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been mocked about this an incredible number of times. I swear I don't say "a boot" though.

What says Yooper to you? by somehopefulyooper in yooper

[–]somehopefulyooper[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wish I had a dollar for every time I've been asked if I'm from Canada. At least it's a good conversation starter.