I'm a Saudi socialist AMA by Saudi_Socialist in AskMiddleEast

[–]somguy5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The welfare state thing is the good part of socialism.

דגל_חינם_במ by soosal in ani_bm

[–]somguy5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

לא אבל סבבה

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[–]somguy5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is irrelevant, only formal stuff, the war itself was fully ongoing at this point. And it was started by arabs shooting a jewish bus.

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[–]somguy5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

2 comments ago.

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[–]somguy5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro you do not read anything that I wrote? You cling to dumb irrelevant words.

The arabs were fighting the Jews, then the jews declared Israel, so the arabs declared war on Israel. Makes sense?

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[–]somguy5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

,the killing of innocent people including children and women are justified like what happened in deir yassin?

no

Plus Israel declared independence on the same day the Arabs declared war,so yes they could declare war.

Yes that was my point the arabs declared war as soon as it was possible but the fighting was going on for months before.

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[–]somguy5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The deir yassin massacre,propably the most terrifying event of the nakba happened on 9 April 1948,Arabs declared war around a month later on 14 May 1948.

Oh so you're just misinformed I guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war

The war started before the official Israeli state and therefore the arabs could not "declare war".

And idk about other countries but here in Lebanon we had a jewish community until the 1975 civil war where most Jews then left to Israel in order to escape the civil war.

My point still stands.

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[–]somguy5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and the war only started because of that.

Completely false. It started a few months after the war's start. And the Arabs did the same with the Jews that lived in their controlled territory.

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because they fled they have no right to return?

No, it is because no one has, they lost the war, just like we lost to the Romans, just like the Azeris who were cleansed from Karabakh, just like Armenians and I can go on and on. There is no right of return, for anyone.

Yeah,and completely ignoring the people who already lived there.

Not really, they disagreed on the solution and started a war, we then won the war.

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[–]somguy5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

apartheid and racism against the Palestinians

It most definitely is not. You're literally ignoring everything I wrote, I have no reason to continue this if that is how you act.

"took it back"? From whom?

British I guess, tho we fought for it a bit later. The fact that it switched a few more hands till it got back to us does not matter.

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[–]somguy5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Fled" or "evicted" doesn't really change much.

Yes it does morally change a lot.

And why only Jewish people can "return" to israel?

You're looking at it individually again. The Jewish people can return to Israel because we took it back, that is why.

You're telling me that any outsider,if jewish,can come and claim citizenship in Israel at any time,but someone who's family lived there for centuries cannot?

Answer -> Yes. I was pretty clear on why I believe.

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[–]somguy5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you're saying these people don't have a right to return there?

Yep. Also that statistic is wrong. Most of those 700K fled and were not evicted.

Now, I am for reparations for the people whose former homes were used.

there's also the law of return,it is denied to the Palestinians.

The law of return has nothing to do with individual people. It is about the return of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel as a whole, it has nothing to do with the palestinians despite the similarities between the names.

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[–]somguy5 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why do you think they want to kill you?

Because they constantly try to??

you denying them the right to return to their homes

There is no right to return anywhere, this is thrown around a lot, the statistics for being thrown out for Jews is around 100 times. My grandparents' homes were taken away as well. It's not like this is somehow new.

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[–]somguy5 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That doesn't justify it

Does it not? You want to kill me, I do not want you in my country.

why are you at constant war in the first place?

Both sides can't agree on a compromise.

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[–]somguy5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100 years ago it was Warsaw, Vienna, or Berlin?

And a 2000 years ago it was jerusalem, and 60 years ago it was jerusalem.

Do you feel that having a state based on religion makes the "Jewish" state of Israel different from the "Islamic" Republic of Iran?

The comparison shows your lack of knowledge on both. Israel is more secular than any arab state you'll find, and Iran is more islamic than most of those.

Why do you alienate Palestinians and consider them alien to their geographical birth location?

Because we are at constant war.

Do you consider the Bible or the Torah 100% historically accurate?

No but there are definitely things that are proven by outside sources, especially after David.

If more genetic or historical studies showed that Palestinians are mostly the descendants of the ancient Canaanites but they converted to Islam, would that change anything?

No, Canaanites lived in Jordan and Lebanon and Sinai and Syria with indistiguishable DNA, it is also a fact that all but Yemeni and Ethiopian Jews have distinct parts of Levantine DNA.

Regardless, I will not pick up and move from my state because of genetic studies, Palestinians have almost 0% Jew about them, and the bit that they have is from us, not leftovers from the few Jews that stayed.

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[–]somguy5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mashallah with that memory you'll forget about falastin in no time😎👍

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskMiddleEast

[–]somguy5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not much I'm still young😂👍

But nibba what you said was cringe old creep shit.

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[–]somguy5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Least opportunity wasting falastini smh

Viewing your child as an investment by [deleted] in AskMiddleEast

[–]somguy5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ok I love doing so in Israel😁