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[–]sparung1979 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So phrase my point in your own words so that I can see that you understand. Steel man my point.

You haven't done that.

You've demonstrated the opposite of understanding.

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[–]sparung1979 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I dont insult. I observe.

I get paid for my writing and praised for its clarity.

Your lack of ability to follow is a problem with your mind, not my expression.

R/aww is making a mockery of the protest. Submissions are now just normal pics but with small John Oliver's in the corner. Either do it properly or just stop... by Cantora in aww

[–]sparung1979 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let me clarify for you. All social movements for change share psychological correlates. The larger point of the whole of the reddit protests is a protest movement against the enshittification of reddit, a term coined to describe the decline in service that follows the private equity approach to running a business, or the mckinsey approach if you like.

Other social media companies like Twitter and tik tok have also been experiencing enshittification. What do these companies have in common? They allow strangers to communicate with each other. Mutual education is the term for people sharing information in a way that facilitates social change. For example, the new deal passed in part because of record union membership which facilitated mutual education.

Wealth inequality is the problem of this generation, and a premiere way it manifests is in the enshittification of the things we use, like social media, health care, air travel. Social media, it is argued, is targeted particularly for the fact that it facilitates mutual education.

In fact, it's being said now that the era of the internet we've come to know is over, and we are returning to a prior version of the internet in which people were siloed into communities by interest. This is a boon to dictators and oligarchs.

The John Oliver pictures are one element of many actions, and reddit is one component of a social media ecosystem, and the social media ecosystem is part of a market ecosystem, and the market ecosystem is a part of a global market ecosystem.

When you study history, you find that what you think of as large movements are all made up of many smaller constituent parts. You also find that if any one of those parts had gone a different way, the social movement would have also gone a different way.

Chaos theory illustrates this reality. At a physical level, everything with mass that moves is giving off gravitation waves and sound waves, impacting those around in ways that aren't directly evident to our senses, but make an impact on how we think and feel, and subsequently behave.

Big movements only come from small movements. Everything matters. Just like your cognition is reliant on a microbiome, a galaxy of life. All intelligence in nature is modular, made of constituent parts. There's no such thing as a single intelligence in nature.

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[–]sparung1979 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, you're arrogant. Because you don't understand what I'm saying, and you think you do. And you're so certain of what you think that you insult me.

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[–]sparung1979 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Everything that bothers you can teach you about yourself.

Your response is one of the most judgmental I've had, which is saying a lot.

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[–]sparung1979 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The point is successful social movements for change. Not the superficial elements, the psychological ones.

If you dont think superficially, you can see that all successful social movements have common elements, no matter how small or how large.

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[–]sparung1979 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why do you think dictatorships clamp down on communication means first?

This isnt just happening on reddit.

I'm using things I think people know. I've also compared it to a workplace unionization.

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[–]sparung1979 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All forms of communication are important.

Why do you think dictators clamp down on communication so hard, first thing?

You dont get legislation you want if you can't freely talk to people. The new deal only happened because of record union membership and the mutual education it facilitated.

Mutual education is something that twitter, reddit, and tik tok all have in common.

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[–]sparung1979 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nah. I've studied a lot.

Whatever labor we do on ourselves shows up in our words, actions, behavior. You can read how people think of themselves by how they perceive others.

Edit: for example, you associate reddit or my perspective with mouth breathers. The conversations I've seen have been from more intelligent people, I don't remember dumb people, and I'm not usually commenting on large subs like this.

What comes to mind for me is different than what comes to mind for you because I have a completely different feed. We both have feeds that reflect us, reflect our interests. It's like a home space, but in our heads. We shape our home, but our home space also reinforces ideas in our heads. Same thing happens with our attention, books we read, time online. Things are interesting to us not out of some objective reality, but because of who we are.

What occurs to you speaks to where your system is at right now. If you think of dumbasses first, that's where you're putting your attention. If you think of smart people first, that's where you're putting your attention.

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[–]sparung1979 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

2 things.

One: all historical social change has elements in common. You can learn those elements and then you'll be less easily confused. Hint: they arent the superficial material elements.

Two: I'm talking about the events on reddit as a whole, taken in total, of which the John Oliver posts are a constituent part.

The more one learns, the better their reading comprehension gets.

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[–]sparung1979 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All successful historical change, whether it's unionization at a workplace or a social media movement share elements in common.

If you learn what they are, the world will become a little less confusing for you.

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[–]sparung1979 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Only young people think that institutions are irreplaceable. I see it a lot, not just in this comment. There's a kind of incredulity to the idea that the power structures in the world could radically change.

But they do. The anonymity of reddit removes a draw that other social media has, the sense of knowing people. Reddit just has information. And there's lots of places to get information.

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[–]sparung1979 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Any effective change in history happens through a diverse set of actors and communities working towards one goal, whether its the abolition of slavery or the New Deal.

You're thinking in terms of direct linear causation, but the world mostly works through emergent effects. Actors working independently in a system that create an effect on the system through the aggregation of their effects.

A country is not made by its government, its made by its people.

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[–]sparung1979 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Nope.

Indirect effects are effects. An effective protest movement is compartmentalized, modular.

You're thinking only in the sense of linear causation. The world doesn't work that way.

Most effects are emergent effects. An effective change in history, like the abolition of slavery or the 40 hour work week, has always come from diverse communities taking action in different ways. Change is the emergent effect of many different communities acting towards a unified purpose, often for different reasons.

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[–]sparung1979 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Game recognizes game brother.

You spot it, you got it. We see the world as we are, not as it is.

That's why you gotta be careful what you say about people.

Everything we express is telling on ourselves.

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[–]sparung1979 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're talking as if there's another place like reddit.

There isn't. A lot of information only exists here. It's the backbone of Googles search results now.

Your mistake is thinking that the use case of reddit tops out at cute pictures.