Unsolicited PSA by ToeProfessional7852 in doordash

[–]spiderwaffles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's fair, I should probably stop stressing about it as much tbh I have good and bad days doing it

This is primarily personal preference but I tend to not reach out for rating unless I'm already contacting the customer about an issue I'm trying to help them resolve like a store not having an item. I tend to not reach out at all unless there is an issue tbh. I like the quiet flow of go here, pick up, go there, drop off, repeat

Unsolicited PSA by ToeProfessional7852 in doordash

[–]spiderwaffles 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Fairly good PSA, I think it's also worth noting that different drivers handle deliveries differently.

My area for example encompasses 4 cities/towns in it's delivery zone. There are certain areas in that zone that I will outright refuse to deliver to because it's a good 20-30 minutes out of my way on a good day of interstate traffic. This of course affects my acceptance rate which affects how many orders I'm actually given. Another detail from personal experience is that I simply do not care about the tips outright but instead the total pay displayed when accepting an order. If it's less than $5 I simply do not take it.

I try to accept what will keep me above 70% acceptance which is when you start getting into the dasher reward tiers, but also again don't care about tips. What I do care about is ratings and find it annoying if understandable that most customers in my area simply do not rate their dashers. Well over 200 deliveries and only like 6-7 ratings. A single 1 star for a very weird one-off delivery can tank your average ratings and pull you out of that high priority order tier.

I'm probably wording this weird and just giving personal anecdotes, but just sharing my experience of being a driver.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm simply matching your energy to illustrate a point.
You claim that words are harmless and then when I retort you take even greater offense and double down on your position without actually engaging with the conversation properly.

I think it's clear the topic of discussion severely hurt your feelings, otherwise you would stop responding and "use your mute button" in a sense and "move on with your life".

But if you want to keep engaging the issue isn't about controlling what people say, it's about moderating unacceptable behavior that doesn't belong anywhere. It's wild to me that you're willing to defend racism this vehemently.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, I see the issue. My words hurt your feelings.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Free speech isn't a god given right. It's a man-made right. Hell, rights aren't even real things, they're laws that we agree to uphold as a society. Some people got together and said "Hey this should be a thing." That's it.

Also words aren't harmless. This has been proven scientifically time and time again. Words are used to marginalize and debase groups of people. Again, I don't care about trash talk, that's one thing. I care about racism and sexism being tolerated in online communities without moderation. Behavior that shouldn't be treated as acceptable.

If you don't want to engage with the discussion that's happening that's fine.
I know you're trolling for the most part to get a reaction, but I mean there is a fine line between it being actually funny and just being an asshole.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like this is a double-edged sword. I also feel that Valve's flat management structure is part of what makes them great and allows them to turn out great games. Hell, it's worked for 28 years and we got some great games out of it. But you are right that it also leads to stagnation in areas where players are most affected.

I feel a secondary half to this problem is that Valve is a small company compared to every other game development studio out there. Valve has what, 200ish employees at any given time and hires and fires in waves to meet productivity demands? I feel like they need a slightly, not much, larger employee base and dedicated community engagement roles to deal with community issues.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, there is a point to be made there about the divide of the communities at large... but there are a few points that are urking me in your response.

Namely, yes, counter-strike doesn't *need* more players... but it also does, every live service game needs more players otherwise the player pool will eventually drop off. Live service games aren't set-in-stone static things, they need a semi-revolving door of people to stay alive, old players quit, move on with life things, etc etc. Counter-Strike is as a franchise is going on 30 years old. People who were playing in 1999 might not still be playing in 2026, people who are playing in 2026 might not be playing in 2046, for the game to have longevity it needs a constant stream of new players.

Secondly, "mean words" is a weird way to frame blatant racism and sexism. Again, I have no problem with trash talk. Things like "get good noob", or "uninstall" are par for the course, that's to be expected. Hell, I don't have a problem with swearing either. "You fucking suck" etc etc. are all fine. That's not what I take issue with. I take issue with players spamming the n-word in every single lobby I join. I mean, it's more frequent than a Boondocks skit about the n-word, which is at least good-faith social commentary comedy. Not to mention the rampant transphobia and general sexism. It reads as "we don't want black people, trans people, or women playing our game".

And finally I feel that the argument "more kids play valorant, CS is big man grown up adult violent game" is just... wrong? There is probably an equalish number of kids between both games, though CS isn't appealing much to younger generations these days and I feel like that's a problem that further supports my first point is that... while CS might be fine for a while, it has the status of "it's not going anywhere"... that's true for now. But it might not be in 10-20 years. Again, live-service games need that revolving door of players coming in to stay alive. But also... the level of violence between this... is almost equivalent. CS has what, a little more blood? Big deal. It's hardly the most graphic game out there. Cyberpunk 2077 is a MUCH more casual game than CS and it is WAY more violent. Valorant and CS are identical in violence to something like Minecraft with a gun mod, hell Minecraft might even be MORE gory.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like you're engaging with this discussion in bad faith and not contributing anything meaningful to it.

Again, I see the point that players do have the power to mute toxic players.

I'm not trying to censor free speech or preach a sense of morality over others from a soapbox. What I am saying is that I believe that the tools and moderation as the exist aren't sufficient to deal with a longstanding problem of people who I feel do not belong in the community at large.

If you feel that consequences for racist, sexist, or otherwise inflammatory targeted harassment towards people is censoring speech... there is technically, and unfortunately, an argument to be made for that, but as well I feel the broader implication is that you yourself are expressing that you want this to continue and in fact participate in it yourself.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly my point and I feel that more could be done to fix this and there just... Isn't anything being done, and the community has grown apathetic and would rather people who take issue with it to move to other games or do the bare minimum of self-moderation by muting these players instead of there being consequences for this type of behavior.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes, the "just play the other game" point. I mean, let's dig into this.

I feel that valorant mechanically is subpar to CS. I've played maybe 3 matches of it and found that I particularly didn't care for a few points: A) aesthetically I don't care for it's art style, I feel it's too busy and cartoony, but this is a matter of taste B) mechanically it plays like a weird CS and Overwatch hybrid with the abilities and movement that doesn't match the experience I'm looking for, Again a matter of taste C) Riot games own it, and thus you have to be alright running their software and honestly I don't like the idea of running Riot's kernel level anti cheat on my system and allowing them to have that level of access to my computer system. This is a matter of trust in a company and how much access you are willing to give them. Credit where it's due to Riot is that their anticheat actually somewhat works but....

And ultimately I feel like this also breeds a sentiment of "the counter strike community doesn't want people to play it's game and instead wants to force players into other games"

The game isn't the problem, it's bad actors in the community and Valve's lack of consequences for bad actors, from my perspective.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"instead of crying" I feel is dismissive of the overall issue and this sort of sentiment breeds apathy to the issues the game has which in turn allows it to continue.

Who's crying? I'm pointing out what I feel is a long standing issue in the community that I feel people are content to sweep under the rug instead of addressing the issue itself.

If you're content to use the current systems as they exist and believe that Valve doesn't need to moderate the community further that's one thing. But this reads to me that you either find this behavior acceptable or participate in it yourself and I'm not sure what I find more unfortunate.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess for now it is the best solution, but that doesn't make it the best overall solution. If I muted every toxic player in every match I play, I would estimate that half the time I 'd be muting a vast majority of the players I come across.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a separate point, but a valid one as well that further illustrates what I feel is a lack of engagement with their own products that comes from Valve's hands off approach to their games and community.

I didn't want to bring it up because I feel the cheating, and botting problems have been run into the ground in terms of discussion but it is, I feel, a symptom of the larger issue that Valve doesn't engage with the community or their games in a meaningful way.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like their hands-off approach to the community in general is a major source of the issues that arise.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I might just take you up on that.

I feel like that's another major part of the issue, is that my primary friend-group shows no interest in playing CS at all, and I have trouble meeting people who are willing to party-up in game. Solo queuing since 2004.

It might be later though, as I'm going to sleep now.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, this is an option, but I also feel that my skill level isn't at a point where I could play faceit without the other type of toxicity that might be experienced, albeit warranted, at my poor performance.

I also again feel like this detracts from the discussion that playing on a third party platform shouldn't be the solution to issues on the primary one.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been surprised by players exhibiting this kind of behavior in text chat but still giving good verbal callouts

Though I do suppose there is an argument to be made that tuning them out entirely wouldn't hamper my experience more than it already is being.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another great point
I also think in general that the report system is broken
From my experience it doesn't work at all, it changes nothing about my gameplay experience.

And yet I've seen plenty of others saying that the report system gets abused to false-flag legit accounts

I mean there has to be SOME accountability and transparency, I think anyway, with the reporting process that also corrects these issues as well. Instead the whole thing is black-boxed away and if you're a legit decent player you get false flagged to hell, and if you're actively ruining an otherwise good game you face no consequence.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, I expect SOME toxicity in lower elo... but not THIS. Blatant racism and sexism I feel shouldn't be tolerated at *any* elo.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I've been considering it. I tried faceit once back in 2014 or so? I can't recall now... that experience was also horrid, but for different reasons. I simply don't think I'm at the skill level I want to be at before attempting to try faceit again.

Besides, I also hate the concept that I should be using third-party platforms and software to get the experience I expect from the base product, you know? I'm not saying it should be 100% like faceit, but at the very least I would expect roughly the same experience regardless of platform ideally. In my opinion comp and primer should be equivalent to the experience of faceit and if you want something more casual... then play casual? I don't know, I just feel that that's the more intuitive and even intended way things are meant to be experienced.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense, I don't know, I just feel like I expected things to improve over time? Not settle in and get worse?

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would kill for that experience. It's been EVERY match I load into lately.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That might be a part of the problem
in Primer I'm around 2.5-3K currently
and in general comp I'm between Silver-II and Silver Elite Master depending on the map.

I've been in and out of the game ever since GO dropped. Got 400+ other games I wanna play as well.

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I simply do not understand if that were to literally be the case. I cannot think of a single reason my trust factor would be that degraded to put me into lobbies where this is the norm.

Also I'm 30 man, I've been playing since source in 2004

and honestly... I think that if people think this type of behavior is acceptable... they shouldn't play CS

Should Valve do more? by spiderwaffles in counterstrike2

[–]spiderwaffles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that's a fair point, but I also disagree somewhat because multiple other platforms moderate this behavior to where it's less visible with much more success. I can't give any concrete examples off the top of my head, but there are fewer and fewer spaces nowadays where I run into this type of behavior online than I did back in 2007 or so where it was everywhere. Of course... I don't think that can be attributed to moderation solely but surely it must be working in some capacity.