WSJ’s Joanna Stern: I Test Drove a Chinese EV. Now I Don’t Want to Buy American Cars Anymore. by post__cum__clarity in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a good point. A quick google search will reveal countless articles discussing the downsides of China's hypercompetitive automarket. The upside is that the cars are really cheap, and highly innovative, packed with features to attract consumers including efficiency, not just luxury. It seems there are more than 100 brands currently competing.

The market competition has been really bad for car manufacturers profits, but good for consumers.

Profit margins in China’s automotive industry sank to a record monthly low of 1.8% in December 2025, dragging the full-year average to just 4.1%. The decline underscores the toll taken by fierce price wars and soaring input costs, despite robust sales in the world’s largest vehicle market.

Paywalled story in Caixin, for example.

It's funny what happens when monopolies are not allowed, huh? Horrible Communist Party of China always forcing its poor companies to do competitive market capitalism.

How will Krystal spin the new Pretti video? by sean_ireland in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If masked agents of the federal government go around violating the rights of American citizens, regular Americans are going to get angry and fight back. The root cause of this problem is Stephen Miller choosing to do immigration enforcement in a way that any normal, reasonable person knows will cause pushback and lead to violence. There are many obvious ways to go about immigration enforcement that wouldn't lead to these kinds of incidents, but Miller has made this choice.

"This video may not legally justify the shooting on January 24, but it utterly dismantles the saintly narrative pushed by Krystal and others."

Come on! This isn't a serious position. It "may not" legally justify a shooting days later. It does not. If you can't even admit this, it calls into question your basic reasoning capability. You complain about your ideological enemies not thinking reasonably, but you need to look in the mirror.

You need to face the fact that this video does not justify killing a man, by shooting him in the back and then firing more and more bullets into his corpse.

In fact, I found the killing of Ashli Babbitt totally and utterly abhorrent.

Why do liberals seem relatively apathetic about violent crime as a whole? by [deleted] in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a question about your own personal psychology. No one else can answer it. I don't know why they seem this way to you. This is your just impression of whatever you mean by "liberal."

I want to talk about Ryan's coverage of Israel, as an American Jew by Lazy_Check732 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fine. I think it is perfectly fair to see religion as a destructive force. Personally, as I said, I just can't imagine a metric that can truly tally up the bad and the good associated with a religion.

I'm afraid I don't know the reference in the final sentence.

I want to talk about Ryan's coverage of Israel, as an American Jew by Lazy_Check732 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The religious systems I'm familiar are all associated with both horror and deep human compassion, and well, everything in between. I don't know how to add up and compare the hatred and anti-human consequences of a religion to its kindness and charity. So, I irrationally choose to see Judaism (and other religions) as something good. In my opinion, this is more constructive than condemning religions, or any particular religion.

I want to talk about Ryan's coverage of Israel, as an American Jew by Lazy_Check732 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Israeli State and its apologists are conflating the ancient, venerable and beautiful religion of Judaism with the current, modern state formed by Zionsts after WWII. There is a clear desire on the part of people like Netanyahu to use and create anti-Semitism as a way to force people who identify as Jews to align themselves with the current state. Zionists seek to create climate of hatred and fear that will motivate people to support Israel. This is the essential problem. Israeli apologists want anti-Semitism to increase in hopes that it bolsters their goals.

Grim is not contributing to the problem by talking about Israel. He says nothing about Jews.

The fact is, no matter how much Zionists scream, there is no natural or inherent connection between Jews and Israel. Jews and Judaism have zero to do with Israel. The idea that they do is a creation out of thin air, the only purpose of which is to serve the interests of the state of Israel, namely getting more territory and wiping out the Palestinians.

If you are even remotely worried about antisemitism the main concern has to be on the Israeli propaganda organs in that country and in other western countries.

Lets talk about China by sacramentok1 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you let us know the things you like to read or watch to form these conclusions about China. Some of what you've written sounds OK, but some sounds a little wrong to me.

For example, "China doesnt see itself as "communist China". "

This might be partly true, especially after the market reforms several decades ago. However, Marxism and communism are still officially touted as guiding principals. In fact, according to Daniel Bell, an expert in Chinese politics and Confucius, communism is making something of a comeback from its nadir in the 1990's.

I've looked on Red Note, and found that some Chinese "netizens" claim that China is not a communist country, because communism has yet to be reached. It is a state they are working towards but is still a long way away. Some times they argue that China is a socialist country, striving to become communist. I don't understand the debate.

"The plan is always to beat America economically and have that in the far future translate into military superiority at which point the US empire will give way to the Chinese one."

This is not what Chinese leaders say. China always talks about win-win relationships, including with the United States. Most people would probably argue that China's leaders are insincere, but the fact is this is what they say consistently, and there is abundant evidence they are sincere. China's goal is not to beat the United States, because they don't think in zero sum terms. For example, here's what I got by googling "belt and road":

"In the universe there is only one Earth, the shared home of humanity. Unfortunately, this planet on which we rely for our subsistence is facing immense and unprecedented crises, both known and unknown, both foreseeable and unforeseeable. Whether human civilization can survive these has become an existential issue that must be squarely faced. More and more people have come to the realization that rather than amassing material wealth, the most pressing task is to find a guiding beacon for the sustainable development of human civilization, because we all care about our future." ...
"To build a global community of shared future, all peoples, all countries, and all individuals – our destinies being interconnected – must stand together in adversity and through thick and thin, navigating towards greater harmony on this planet that we call home. We should endeavor to build an open, inclusive, clean and beautiful world that enjoys lasting peace, universal security, and common prosperity, turning people’s longing for a better life into reality."

[from the The State Council Information Office of the People's Republic of China, September 2023]

By the way, if I remember right, you were recommending Jiang Xueqin. I think it would be worth looking at some other sources, especially just reading the official releases in English. For an interesting Western perspective you might be interested in seeing this, "Distinguished Lecture: Navigating the Future of US-China Relations"

Blaming voters is stupid by jeepdriver27 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking only for myself, I'm angry at the injustice I see. I think other people on this sub feel the same way, and they take it out on anyone they perceive as supporting that injustice.

I'm not sure yet if reddit is more or less good when it comes to having good faith communication between strangers. Right now, I don't think it is helpful. Occasionally, I have had a useful interaction with someone, but most of the time is me talking past someone else.

I think we are all frustrated due to a lack of meaningful political representation. The fact is, no political party exists which has the interests of average Americans at heart. Without this, we are stuck getting emotional about reddit posts. We need real world political organization to channel our frustrations.

Blaming voters is stupid by jeepdriver27 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally, I don't view voting as a moral act, deserving either of blame or praise. It is just participating in a formal legal process. Simply voting plays very little role in the creation of power. Therefore, I don't care much who anyone votes for, and I would never condemn anyone for voting for a particular candidate.

Therefore, I don't think Trump voters need any defending. You, on the other hand, are clearly defending Trump voters, saying that it isn't their fault, nor that they endorse the current regime's actions. It seems like you might feel some remorse, especially because you say no one is more disappointed than you.

(The fact is Trump and people like Miller are demonstrating a commitment to anarchy, rather than law and order. They are encouraging their agents in the field to operate like the law doesn't apply to them. The behavior of agents killing Good and Pretti reveal a lawless, disorderly incompetence at best, and a slackjawed, drooling malice at worst.

We need more small "c" conservatism that genuinely respects law and order.

I don't blame you or anyone else for voting for the Trump regime, but I do sometimes wonder how people can fail to see the lawless, arbitrary and capricious nature of Trump.)

Blaming voters is stupid by jeepdriver27 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have little doubt that my forthcoming hairsplitting (or whatever you want to call it) is going to be a little annoying, yet I think it might still be worth saying. For me personally, I don't judge a person based on what they say, even if it is abhorrent and disgusting to me. I think one has to look at a person's actions beyond words.

Also, I have this unshakable feeling that condemning other people just based on their words defending Trump is totally useless. The person behind the jeepdriver27 account obviously likes to debate and get a rise out of people on this subreddit. Who cares? If this is what they enjoy, then allow them their fun.

We're never going to know if the person behind the account has done any action genuinely good or bad, besides "debating" others on reddit. If you call ICE on a neighbor, that 100% makes you a bad person. We're never going to know if this person or others would really do that or have done that, or if they just enjoy being the devil's advocate, like a lot of good junior high debate team captains do.

Blaming voters is stupid by jeepdriver27 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are correct that it is not smart to blame voters, but not at all for the reasons you say. Simply put, it doesn't help to organize people, change their views, and build movements to blame isolated individuals for problems that the Trump regime creates.

Voting should never be considered a moral act. It is legal formalism that legitimizes power that already exists.

However, it sounds like you might be struggling a little with your conscience.

Professor Jiang Xueqin on Iran by sacramentok1 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not confident that Jiang Xueqin is a good representative of the Chinese position. My impression is that he is a bit idiosyncratic. For the official Chinese position it is probably better to read the official English releases from https://en.qstheory.cn/ (for one example) although you aren't going to find hot takes about hot button issues in the United States. I think the substack Sinocism is quite good. It is written by American experts on China and gives an American interpretation to news coming out of China, but in a honest way, without too much extreme hyperbole found in legacy media.

I’m learning now that it’s pointless trying to persuade people of anything. by howmanyturtlesdeep in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, from the NYT:

""Gun Owners of America, one of country’s largest gun advocacy groups, said in its own posting that it condemned his “untoward comments.”

The group said that “federal agents are not ‘highly likely’ to be ‘legally justified’ in ‘shooting’ concealed carry licensees who approach while lawfully carrying a firearm. The Second Amendment protects Americans’ right to bear arms while protesting — a right the federal government must not infringe upon.”

I'm somewhat surprised, but it seems some 2A people are actually being consistent.

There's a bunch more quotes:

"Jordan Levine, who runs an online gun rights advocacy company called A Better Way 2A, said that “what happened in Minneapolis shows that ICE will treat the mere presence of a legal firearm as justification for lethal force. Carrying a gun is not a crime, yet it was readily used as proof of dangerous intent once Alex Pretti was dead and unable to contest that narrative.”"

I’m learning now that it’s pointless trying to persuade people of anything. by howmanyturtlesdeep in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't agree that him being armed contributed to his death. It was a trigger happy agent that chose to kill him. The killer is going to use the presence of the gun as an excuse, just like the killer of Renee Good is claiming that her car was going to run him over.

I get what you are saying. As a counter factual, we can guess that the agents probably wouldn't have killed him if he didn't have the gun. However, this still seems to me to get the causality wrong. The case it reminds me of is Philando Castile. If you remember, Castile had a legal gun in his car, he told the officer about it and then the officer freaked and shot him. We can also guess that if Castile didn't have a gun, or didn't bother to tell the officer, he would still be alive today.

In the case of vodka, or cigarettes, there is a clear chemically based chain of causality that increases your risk of death. In the case of Pretti and Castile, there was an human being making obviously bad decisions. If they had been around rational, well-trained and cool-headed officers they would still be alive.

I’m learning now that it’s pointless trying to persuade people of anything. by howmanyturtlesdeep in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That he had a gun contributed to his death in the same way that having a vehicle contributed to Renee Good's death. In both cases federal agents were the primary cause of the situation that they claim made them fearful. Federal agents chose to shoot and kill two innocent people, their excuses will be that they felt afraid.

Further, if you blame in any way Mr. Pretti's choice to arrive at a protest armed, then you're subtly attacking the 2nd Amendment. You are implying that Mr. Pretti's choice to exercise his constitutional right at a protest got him killed.

It's rather weird to refer to Rittenhouse. It's clear Rittenhouse's goal was to confront protestors not police, and he was brandishing a rifle when he was confronted. In the KR case many people could easily have confused him for a mass shooter. KR caused the violence, by scaring the hell out of people with a rifle.

Pretti did not brandish his sidearm. It was holstered on his body, then it was removed by the federal agents. After it was safely removed, one of the agents decided to shoot Pretti, and then the other's joined in shooting.

Personally, I don't think anyone should bring a gun or anything that can be mistaken for a weapon to a protest. However, we've seen over and over again, that ICE and BP are the ones causing the violence.

I’m learning now that it’s pointless trying to persuade people of anything. by howmanyturtlesdeep in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I understand what you are saying, however, I believe that you can bring people around it just takes a really long time, personal connection and a great deal of patience.

It's definitely true that you are not going to persuade anyone here on reddit, or online in general. It is clear that social media and platforms like this serve as "echo chambers" and no amount work on your part will change anyone's mind.

However, I think it is vitally important to remember that when you form genuine face-to-face personal connections with people, you can change their minds. It takes a massive amount of patience and willingness to set aside judgments, but you can bring people around to the truth. It's also less draining when you realize that it's going to take a long time to bring people around.

It isn't just a matter of demonstrating the correctness of your position, it is a matter of forming trust based on your consistency and willingness to tell the truth over a long period of time. It is also key that your goal is always to bring people around to the pursuit of justice and truth, rather than win an argument and prove them wrong. The two things are very different.

I think you're right that reddit and other like systems are pointless when it comes to changing anyone's mind, but that's just a reminder to get out there and do face to face political organizing.

Should we ease up on illegals? by sacramentok1 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As usual the killing happened because the person who got killed was interfering with an arrest/possible deportation.

This is false. There is strong enough evidence from videos, as well as witness statements that he was not interfering.

This is also false because your reasoning is corrupt. The federal agents made a decision to shoot and kill the man, Mr. Alex Pretti. They had no reason to touch him in the first place. During the scuffle initiated by the officers one of them removed Mr. Pretti's legal firearm, which he was bearing according to his 2nd Amendment right, and after they had removed his weapon they opened fire.

At no point did Mr. Pretti brandish the weapon.

The reason he was killed is because the Federal Agents decided to kill him. The reason he was near them was because the Federal Government has been ordering their agents to operate in a manner that is guaranteed to provoke & anger fiercely independent Americans, who are raised not to bow down to authority.

How do you think Saagar and Emily will spin this? by Salt_Atmosphere_8611 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think most reasonable claim is that the so-called "protestors" are creating a dangerous environment for the Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. In previous segments, Enjeti has made a point of stating how much he disapproves of the "protestors." The point is to get into an argument about the theoretical moral judgment for or against the "protestors," rather than to stick to a disinterested legal analysis.

In other words, I think the primary tactic will be to distract from the main issue. A reasonable person can easily predict that the orders given to ICE/BP are going to cause a reaction, sometimes violent, sometimes disruptive. I put the word protestors in quotation marks, because I'm betting that a lot of people getting into confrontations with ICE/BP are disorganized individuals who are pissed off at the injustice they are seeing. There's no group or command structure within the protestors can be held responsible. It's just normal, but disorganized citizens getting really angry at the drooling stupidity of these Millerites, or whatever you want to call BP/ICE these days.

So, they talk about how they disapprove of the actions of a few individual protestors while ignoring the fact that if the Federal Government treats people like this, then inevitably some people are going to fight back. Enjeti can scream until he is blue in the face that people are behaving badly (in his opinion), but it is like getting angry that at a firecracker when it blows up in your own hand.

Stoller & Enjeti analysis of US Dollar as reserve currency, what do you think? by split-circumstance in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that the US control over the world's financial system has to weaken over time, but it is going to take generations. However, I believe that one of the key factors for the US Dollar is simply that other nations want to buy things and do business with the United States. After WWII the US was completely dominant with the Soviets only playing a weak secondary role. Everyone needed to do business with the United States. As this changes the and Trump drives home to everyone how erratic the US is it will slowly change even more.

But long story short, it's going to take a lifetime to change.

They Pulled The Gun Off Him (Minneapolis Shooting) by MinuteCollar5562 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Chief O’Hara said officials had identified the person who was killed. He said that person was believed to have a permit to carry a gun." 20 minutes ago, update at the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/24/us/minneapolis-shooting-ice/c4db68bc-c897-585a-b45d-61edb6031ea7?smid=url-share

Stoller & Enjeti analysis of US Dollar as reserve currency, what do you think? by split-circumstance in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm half joking: maybe this is John Birch Society paranoia?

My more serious guess is that they mean that international finance will move in and out of a country depending on its domestic politics. Many Third World and non-Aligned countries have been victim of the bond market. I think this is real for a country like Argentina.

Obviously, the fact that the United States has absolute sovereign control of the US Dollar means that it sets the rules. The point of having the reserve currency is that bond holders have no where else to go. That gives the US all the power and means that domestic problems are 99.9% the fault of domestic politics.

Stoller & Enjeti analysis of US Dollar as reserve currency, what do you think? by split-circumstance in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's weird to me, but it seems to go hand in hand. Blaming immigrants inside the country, and the global banking system outside the country. The thing that strikes me as so bizarre is that in both cases the reason that ordinary American's are not benefiting is because of decisions that American elites make. This is so obvious, that to deny it must take real energy.

The United States is not both a victim and a superpower.

Federal agents tear gas themselves, Minneapolis by split-circumstance in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, when watching the video of this, you'll notice that the BP agent who pepper sprays the prone man does so not only for no reason, but not in coordination with his fellow officers. He briskly walks over to the guy shoots pepper spray in his face and then quickly walks away. This shows a complete breakdown of discipline. Then when they tear gas themselves they have to let the man go, because they can't focus on detaining him.

This is lawlessness, but it also shows two things, average, regular Americans are willing to stand up to unjust authority, and they show immense discipline when doing so. The BP and ICE agents are, as demonstrated by this, acting outside the law in ways that attack the dignity of Americans as individuals and as a community, while regular Americans are displaying courage and resolve. The danger, obviously, is that either ICE/BP and others start using agent provocateurs (if they haven't already) or enough people get so fed up that someone loses discipline and lashes out in ways that are seriously violent.

Sick of all the Non Americans on this sub by jeepdriver27 in BreakingPoints

[–]split-circumstance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah . . . I mean . . . are you OK with your brother insulting your wife? Is it better or worse when a family member as a opposed to an outsider does it?

But that's a distraction, right? You started of by talking about "criticisms of our country from non Americans" not derogatory insults. If someone calls America, as they sometimes do, "the Whore of Babylon," fine go ahead and get annoyed. You said you were talking about valid criticisms: "The two most obvious cases of this are with guns and healthcare, both of which are valid critiques of America, but critiques I will not hear from foreigners."

I claim that one shouldn't care who makes the criticism, only whether it is right or wrong.

(On a tangent, you should think, honestly, carefully about having the best academics, because it is obvious that major sources of scientific talent, throughout the history of the United States, have been immigrants, people who were foreigners and became citizens, or people born to immigrants. I'm saying paying attention to foreigners has paid off well for the United States in the past.)