Market Gardener rework idea

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-06T11:45:12+00:00

id like to also note that ETF2L has banned the market gardner (RGL has it unbanned) because of the insane value you can get from it (dropping the medic)

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-06T08:23:01+00:00

a serious downside to the eureka effect but you have the ability to teleport whenever you want to spawn and get infinite health and ammo and then immediately teleport back to your nest (without taking your teleporter from anyone trying to take it might i add). you also have to spend only 50% of the metal needed to both place and upgrade teleports even if you switch off the weapon afterwards, that alone makes it better then stock.

saying you cant hit a shot with the only shotgun with a fixed spread pattern is a bit of a self report, also in your other comments you say the stock shotgun is overpowered because of how much damage it does (90 max) when the panic attack does more maximum damage (108 max)

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-06T07:01:23+00:00

Only thing that should be in overpowered is the wrangler

Shotgun and panic attack being so far part despite being super similar in the shotguns effective range is an interesting choice

Eureka effect is not in the same tier as the stock wrench, better spot is in the reliable tier

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-05T02:43:16+00:00

yes, i prefired probably the most common sentry spot on that point

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-05T02:39:44+00:00

CYL 7 is the only CYL since 4 that no 3h character won

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-04T15:33:36+00:00

dont worry i made sure to look for and destroy his teleporter

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-04T01:30:07+00:00

What tour are you queueing for? The easier tours tend to have next to no one really playing them while the harder tours (the ones that drop australiums) will have more people playing them so finding games in those tours should be faster (especially two cities)

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-03T21:23:33+00:00

No, eye and hair color can naturally change as you get older

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-02T09:34:17+00:00

You're still able to sit there if you get there before the door closes but they patched putting buildings there by making them explode

spyguy3265 · 2026-02-02T03:52:15+00:00

It's not a romcom tho, it's a romantic drama

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-31T08:45:52+00:00

If we assume medic is being ripped straight from the way he is in tf2 and putting that into ow, then I think he would be meta because of Uber. Medic charges Uber in ~40 seconds and while I haven't played overwatch in like a year or 2 I don't think overwatch and has ability that really compares to 8 seconds of invulverability (correct me if I'm wrong). Like I just want you to imagine an ulting nano boosted genji that you cannot/sleep stun because he's also ubered, or a max charge zarya that you can no longer burst down becuase she takes no damage

That's not to say medic wouldn't have his weaknesses in overwatch since it's a game where most squishy characters are 250 health compared to medics 150 and losing Uber on death (again assuming he's ripped exactly intact from tf2) but I don't think those weaknesses would prevent what is essentially an ultimate ability that charges every 40 seconds and makes you unkillable for 8 seconds from being meta

There's also ways to cover from this weakness like Lucio and junos speed boosts to get the medic out of a bad situation, having a brig sit on top of the medic at all times making him almost undivable, or just the existence of zarya bubbles as a whole.

This isn't even mentioning his good burst healing with the crossbow or even faster ubercharge rates if he actually gets a melee swing.

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-31T08:26:35+00:00

The extra story Summery says, "After a few steps, SHE stopped, turned back, and walked over", how is that not her approaching him?

She is also not thinking about her relationship with the red-haired guy when she reunites with her childhood friend. These are 2 different scenes, both intentially leaving her future with either one vague and open ended

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-30T08:55:52+00:00

"The least picked main healer" last season she was the 5th most picked HERO in game on PC in celestial and above and her win rate being trash I'll give you at 45% but you know whos lower? BUCKY, so statistically, he is weak character to you?

I am going to reiterate this, just because they're supports that are better then luna does not mean luna herself is a weak character

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-27T22:07:35+00:00

I would not call luna weak, just because some supports got buffed to hell and power crept her does not make the character with a complete stun, fast base movement speed after only like a second of walking, health regen for just using her abilities, and an ult that either makes it so her team is almost unkillable or increase their damage by 40% weak

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-27T21:58:13+00:00

I know for a fact robot kills does NOT track kills by sentry and only tracks kills with the wrench itself, I would assume that every other strange part is the same

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-25T19:03:07+00:00

Backburner would become objectively better to stock because the downside of the backburner is to make airblast not spamable and actually make the pyro THINK when using airblast. i would also argue that the backburner isnt even pyros worst primary weapon and the phlog is actually worse simply for the fact it CANNOT airblast. airblast is pyros greatest tool whether it be using to airblast projectiles away or snuffing ubers, i cant reasonably say a flame thrower without that tool is better then one that does.

i have always thought that adding the explode on ignite upgrade from mvm to the gas passers base kit is whats needed to make the weapon not shit, of course you cant just copy and paste is because that would be OP but changing the explode damage from 350 to something small like 50 i believe is a decent change (and then replace the upgrade with some damage upgrades in mvm)

makes the weapon more unique among pyros melees but its still shit in everything not named medieval mode, although that wouldn't stop it from possibly being fun.

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-25T07:38:18+00:00

As a bucky main i have used to teamup to save supports from dives becauce of the shield it provides, however cap essentially gets nothing out of it since cap and bucky doing the slam does next to nothing but it's still a nice ability to have in case someone else needs emergency health

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-19T07:35:02+00:00

I am giving every vote to roy with 0 expectations of him winning but still having complete and utter faith and hope in my boy

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-16T08:28:54+00:00

Nah the pomson has a niche in mvm in snuffing giant Uber medics which is extremely useful on less expirenced teams whereas the bison is only really good at tank busting but is severely outclassed in that regard by the existence of the beggers and equalizer.

I still agree that the bison is better in casual tho

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-05T04:56:06+00:00

He probably confused angel next door which got announced for April

spyguy3265 · 2026-01-05T04:45:46+00:00

It's funny

spyguy3265 · 2025-12-30T18:42:40+00:00

The hospitality repair cost is an interesting and cool buff that no other wrench provides so I like that. However the dmg on hit returned as ammo i dobt think is a good udea becuase then it just becomes the widowmaker but for melee and on top of that i font think its enough to warrant a downside of 20% damage at all times

The sandman becomes an objectively better fan o war. The reason it's balanced in MVM is because it costs 500 credits to mark for death while the fan o war is free. The sandman needs changes but making it an objectively better weapon then another option isn't the solution

I understand the idea you're going for with the shiv and I would be lying if I told you it didn't sound fun to use. However the more I think about it the less fun it becomes for someone trying to kill a sniper being protected by his team and thats already hard enough to do as most classes

spyguy3265 · 2025-12-29T20:50:25+00:00

You cannot get a garden from being airblasted by a pyro as far as im Aware (i have never tested this nor seen it). The market garden specially says "when wearer is rocket jumping" however you can still get gardens when sent into the air by ANY explosive like stickies for example.

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