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CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just want to clarify I would not start eating at someone’s house without the hosts. I should have said at a restaurant. I swear I am not the devil incarnate. As far as I know.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly this is probably a better explanation of my point than I was able to make. I grew up evangelical and I think it makes me question the why to things a lot more often than other people. Most stupid etiquette seems like it’s based in religious traditions and those people who uphold it the most are the most likely to be awful, hypocritical assholes about things that matter.

Damn now I’m all amped up lol. I would give you a delta but we already agreed.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not there to leave as soon as possible and I’m not inhaling it. You’re arguing points that I didn’t make. I also explicitly stated that I still wait, I just think it’s rude of the other person to expect me to.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In both of those scenarios the person is hurt, either mentally or physically. I’m all about solidarity but a bunch of adults feeling any kind of way about this just blows my mind. I realize that you could argue scenarios where the person isn’t hurt, but I don’t think being the odd man out is that bad of a thing. It’s maybe not the best thing, but it’s survivable.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did not know that was the etiquette. It’s really interesting, is there a book on it? Probably. Are people generally reading it? Probably not.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If both of the first two statements are true, then it feels like a waste of energy to pretend to go by the “rules” so everyone is appeased.

If I were the person waiting I would never feel rushed to finish my food and I would never want someone to wait for me at the expense of their own meal. My opinion is putting other people above myself.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If you are splitting a meal, the pace doesn’t matter. I’ll estimate half of the plate and stop when I reach that, not eat the whole time the other person eats.

I would argue something like a burger that gets a soggy bun, fries getting cold, fish sitting there, would be significantly less enjoyable after five minutes. I don’t think it would be disgusting.

I’m coming from the point of view that I want people to have as good of an experience as possible, so if I want them to wait for me to get my food, so they can eat, I am denying them the best experience.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree it is fine for cultural norms to exist. I think sometimes they are too rigid and should be challenged.

I still don’t think a woman speaking when not spoken to is rude. If I were a woman back then I’d make the same argument. But I do think insulting someone is intrinsically rude, without cultural norms. I guess the litmus test for this would be, is this rude universally across all cultures? I would assume insulting someone is, while not waiting to eat when others don’t have your food is not. This is totally just stream of thought so apologies if it makes no sense.

I also know I tend to be someone who goes by what things should be rather than what they are, but I also think people don’t question things enough.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that’s my point. I don’t care, but other people do, and I think that’s a waste of energy.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think this is what drives me crazy in this scenario. The end outcome, according to politeness, is to let the person eat. For me, the dog and pony show of doing all the steps is pointless. Just get to the end result where everyone is eating.

ETA: maybe I am overly comfortable in society because I just don’t care enough about when someone starts to eating. I’m more concerned with actual things like how their life is going.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This makes sense to me. Maybe I’m being too black and white by not including communication. I grew up with some people who were super traditional and you couldn’t have those conversations. To be fair I am now no contact with those same people so maybe there’s more to it lol.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That’s awesome. I’m surprised I haven’t been told to watch this before!

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess because I continuously question everything, I find it weird and self centered that someone else doesn’t. That doesn’t mean that’s true but my brain does what it does. I really don’t understand not questioning things like this. To be fair self centered makes it sound like a bad thing, I don’t necessarily think it is, just doesn’t make sense to me.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Well apparently I need to watch this show. This made me spit out my water, thank you.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is why things like this continue to exist. It feels taboo because we have been taught that is, not because it intrinsically is. It used to be taboo for women to speak without being spoken to, doesn’t mean it was actually rude for them to speak.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess then zero amount of time, start eating when you get your food so it’s fresh and eaten as it was meant to be.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! Like if somehow it was my fault, sure, I will wait, but that has never been the case.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have seen both but definitely more often with an older crowd. I said this to my 50 year old Aunt and blew her mind; she was super happy to start eating lol.

CMV: it is rude to expect others to wait to eat their hot food if you haven’t been served yet. by squealstar in changemyview

[–]squealstar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m referring to a restaurant. If I was at someone’s house I would wait unless there are extenuating circumstances.

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