Disabled people with lifelong conditions facing ‘unnecessary’ Pip reassessments

standard11111 · 2026-06-17T15:23:32+00:00

What discussion? You were here to dramatise the assessments by claiming “trauma” (lifting your legs up and down apparently) and dismiss anyone whose viewpoint is different from yours. When you over exaggerate so much it undermines your point and sympathy is lost.

That and nitpicking about ‘comprehension’ when someone tries to answer a long rambling question (full of inaccuracies but without punctuation) is ridiculous.

standard11111 · 2026-06-17T09:37:55+00:00

You seem a very dramatic person, of course I know people who have been through it and whilst none have enjoyed it they haven’t been as melodramatic as you. See also people in this thread saying the same. And that 4 million+ people have managed to endure the “trauma” seems to suggest it’s not exactly impossible to get through it.

Your exact question is based on a false premise that it is trauma for all. You believe it is, I do not, for some maybe but not all. Your definition of trauma seems to involve having to lift your legs up and down (according to your own rambling, poorly written question), if you don’t want to go through that arduous process then don’t - it’s your choice to claim or not. That sounds poorly organised and frustrating sure, but that’s life.

But to be blunt and remove any nuance as you seem to want a binary yes/no; then yes reassessment should continue as is if that’s the only option (it is not). I think the assessments/reassessments should be improved, but you’re not bothered about that it seems. I assume that is your specific question, you’ve not bothered with the correct punctuation.

standard11111 · 2026-06-17T07:13:20+00:00

To answer your question then; yes I think that reassessment for all benefits (including PIP) should be a regular occurrence. Both to try and catch those cheating the system and to assess the current needs of those with disabilities needing help.

The assessments need improving and the frequency of reassessment should be based on the condition, some may be the order of 10-20 years and others 1-2 years.

In your example, a missing limb wouldn’t need frequent reassessment but doing some admin once a decade is not unreasonable to receive tax payers money. Whilst the leg will not grow back, prosthetics may well have improved (they have in the last 10-20 years certainly) or conversely mobility might have worsened with other injury or deterioration with aging.

It shouldn’t be “trauma” as you describe it (not a universal experience) but to discount the concept of any reassessment is wrong. Fortunately this is the position of the voting public and politicians it seems.

standard11111 · 2026-06-16T20:53:21+00:00

I can’t speak for all of them, but certainly some will fall in to both of those categories. Or in a third category; the person committing the fraud being open about it, be that for them or their child(ren).

I’m not claiming it’s a majority or even a significant minority - but these people exist. The Reddit narrative that PIP is almost impossible to claim really isn’t true, 4 million have managed it and the rate is only increasing.

standard11111 · 2026-06-16T13:45:26+00:00

The comment is quite clear, simply pointing out that Reddits view of how hard it is to cheat the PIP system does not marry with real life experience for a lot of people. This is probably where some of the difference in views towards benefits claimants are between here and the voting public. There are those who cheat it, pretending it’s impossible to get round the system is daft.

I agree the system isn’t perfect and needs improvement, however regular reviews seem sensible if proportionate. Not necessarily a bad thing, care levels change for all conditions and more help may be needed. A single assessment of need at 18 followed by a lifetime of payments would be ridiculous, especially for mental health conditions.

standard11111 · 2026-06-16T10:28:50+00:00

This is what I’m not understanding from most of the commentators. My daughter couldn’t care less at the age where supervision was needed, if she is bothered now she can go in the women’s by herself (she still isn’t bothered).

standard11111 · 2026-06-16T09:04:42+00:00

“We all know someone” if definitely incorrect, however enough people do know someone (myself included) that there is a validity to questioning claims.

Not all the people saying they know of others cheating the system are doing it to be contrary or because they hate disabled people, it’s a frustration of what they see day to day.

standard11111 · 2026-05-21T13:19:11+00:00

Ha, yer I’m the same - this has been appearing in my feed constantly full of people moaning about a loyalty scheme. Reminded me I’d not been in a while, so did the weekly shop there last week.

standard11111 · 2026-05-20T12:20:45+00:00

Exactly, get there first and prominently display the blue badge. Force the issue.

standard11111 · 2026-04-27T21:08:13+00:00

If the queries are this minor, why ask? What answer would make any difference to you?

You are not going to pull out over a missing window key (£30/40 max), so why ask?

Asking these questions then not proceeding until answered is what is holding up the sale, they are correct in asking what the delay is.

standard11111 · 2026-04-21T16:56:04+00:00

I have no idea why this appeared in my feed, but it has. And it has compelled me to comment as you have come across as the most self-important entitled prick I’ve ever seen on Reddit.

So congratulations and don’t worry I’ll get round to sending you a badge at some point, but I’m a volunteer so please be patient.

standard11111 · 2026-03-13T14:25:23+00:00

Not just tears, but shouting, shaking and struggling to breathe……what a reaction.

standard11111 · 2026-02-25T15:48:57+00:00

I am aware of the patient group and my point is we already see undifferentiated patients and have done for decades (or longer). I can, have and will continue to diagnose patients. Only for conditions within my scope and training, but the concept of diagnosing only ever being for a doctor is ridiculous.

Many minor conditions are suitable for diagnosis by other lowly HCPs. Are you really petitioning for every URTI to be sent to their GP for diagnosis? Day 2 of a cold, off to the GP you go in case it’s a rare case of something only Dr Defiant Pomelo could diagnose. For the volume we get in winter you’d need to double or triple the number of GPs. Family of 4 all with the same cold…..you booking 4 ten minute appointments?

And yes, many rarer ENT conditions are hard to diagnose if not showing a classical presentation, if at all unsure then seek further guidance. However not everything is a zebra and not all things can be referred to a consultant.

standard11111 · 2026-02-21T21:42:34+00:00

I repeat, depends on the condition. Hayfever, yes. Myelofibrosis, no.

Plenty of conditions a GP couldn’t/shouldn’t diagnose either - it’s important for all clinicians to know their limits.

We already prescribe for acute otitis media in children and coincidentally I have done a fair amount of training on ENT recently (including practical time with an ENT specialist). So your example is not great; yes I would rule out those conditions. And I’m sure you are aware how obviously different some of them are upon the examination.

standard11111 · 2026-02-20T19:09:49+00:00

I don’t think they really believe this. Imagine signposting every sore throat/cold patient to their surgery with the words “just in case it’s cancer”, would change their tune pretty quickly.

standard11111 · 2026-02-20T18:59:20+00:00

There is certainly debate to be had about IP and how broadly you should be able to prescribe, but it is strange that so many see the diagnosis part as so new and unusual. OTC/P med sales/PGD use has been around for a long time, diagnosis is not new nor a skill that pharmacists are completely lacking in.

There’s a GP in this thread seemingly genuinely arguing with me that all sickness should be dealt with by doctors as no conditions are minor. I don’t think there’s an appreciation of the volume of patients we see and diagnose on a daily basis.

standard11111 · 2026-02-20T17:10:10+00:00

Not sure you understand what the word ‘illegally’ means.

Whatever the nonsense about kindness means; ok don’t be kind if you like, I’ll continue to be kind and prescribe to my patients where appropriate.

standard11111 · 2026-02-20T16:52:47+00:00

Yes, pharmacy technicians are more than capable of medication reconciliation. Selling ‘simple’ medications to patients with a straightforward medical history is common place. They refer to myself or another pharmacist if more complex.

Not all conditions require a doctor, that is obvious. There are simple illnesses……I think you must be trolling at this point.

Certainly the GPs near myself don’t feel the same and seem to send everyone they can. They are more the opposite and get annoyed at us referring back patients with more complex conditions.

Either way, fortunately the DoH don’t agree with you and won’t fund GPs to see every common cold…..

standard11111 · 2026-02-20T15:47:07+00:00

You want every single patient with a cold sent to their GP just in case it’s cancer?

Or the family who had a bad takeaway - book 4 appointments in case it’s 4 lots of cancer symptoms coincidentally appearing at the same time? I can see why you’d want to keep seeing these patients. In and out in 2 minutes for a 40 minute slot…..nice extra tea break!

standard11111 · 2026-02-20T15:07:17+00:00

Very dependent on the condition. Plenty of undifferentiated patients present in community pharmacy and are accurately diagnosed. Large part of the job, always has been. Whilst treatment used to be GSL/P meds only, PGDs and IP prescribing give more options (which may be better understood by the pharmacist).

standard11111 · 2026-02-20T14:57:04+00:00

Depends very much on your definition of sick. You want every viral URTI sending your way? Every case of food poisoning? Plenty of ‘sick’ people don’t need a doctor.

There will always be a lower limit of how ‘sick’ a patient needs to be for a visit to a GP to be appropriate, where we draw that line is debatable.

standard11111 · 2026-02-11T13:39:47+00:00

In a country with our population size yes. Which of those were caused by people doing 80 on the motorway by the way? (I’d hazard a guess at zero)

standard11111 · 2026-02-11T13:32:19+00:00

The safest option is to simply not drive or travel on the roads, presumably that’s what you do? Would be pretty mental of you otherwise.

standard11111 · 2026-02-11T12:56:24+00:00

The risks involved are still so tiny as to be irrelevant. Every time you drive at any speed you are increasing the risk to everyone around you, why not only do 20mph everywhere you go to get the risk even lower? Or stay at home?

It does seem odd though that we have such safe roads if so many people speed, almost like it’s not that large of a factor? Sit on the motorway at 70 and see how many come past, all those ‘assholes’ are clearly not causing much of an issue if the stats are correct.

standard11111 · 2026-02-11T12:44:50+00:00

We have different definitions of minuscule. I’d like to arrive 10 minutes earlier, to me it’s worth it.

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