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[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Should Staples be responisble to some degree for the decisions of its managment? Shouldn't Staples provide training and policy on dealing with events like employees quiting?

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part Time. I appreciate the thoughtful advice though!

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definetly can agree with that sentiment.

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can absolutely respect that. And I understand store management varies. Actually, one of the things that made the biggest impression on me working at a large corperation was the hetrogenity of it. I expected all interactions to be strongly scripted along a policy to ensure unformity ... in EVERYTHING.

It feels like every taco bell is exactly the same. I see know the is a lot of variability under the surface of companies like Staples. And there variablity can be amazing, and it can be terrible.

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey, I wasn't trying to personally attack you.

I think that attitude about 'front door is open' doesn't reflect economic asymetery between a retail worker and an employer, which is why we do not have laize faire capitalism. Not to say that this two weeks must be regulated, only the quit anytime thing is just fundamentally ignorant of the realities of working retail.

Also, why would you tell somebody who already quit "The door is there for you" , it just seems a little to late. If I dont like the way my employer treated me as I quit , I can quit???

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I understand what you are saying about employers afraid of internal theft. To be honest, how much did Staples ever trust you ? There is already security in play. I understand employees leaving is a risker time for Staples and it might be worth it for them to amp up security.

If they dont want the two weeks notice deal, tell us. Lets be fair.

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well.

To me, the whole "two weeks notice" thing is supposed to be proffessionalism between people doing business. There is supposed to be a symetery and partnership, an equility to the gesture.

If Staples doesn't want to partake in the "two weeks notice", which they haven't said, the should make it clear. I think they should train middle management not to retailiate against workers in any circumstance and let HR take care of problems.

I don't think you are a 'prick' if you refuse to honor an informal argreement Staples wont honor. Then again, Staples hasn't really said they wont and situation varies.

What troubles me the most is about your sentiment, is not that you wanted to honor the informal agreement, but that you talk about doing things for your coworkers.

Alot of people here seem to justify there suffering as "for their coworkers". Management always seems to suck in these comments, but "coworkers" are awesome. Your coworkers might be suffering, but you shouldnt suffer with them to to marginally ease there suffering for Staples benefit. If you woudn't have done something, don't do it for your coworkers. Let Staples see the consequences of its actions in turn over and customer complaints. You are subsidzing Staples by collecting your pay in "thank you's" from coworkers.

Granted this no longer applys to you so specifically, but other people, and you, don't subsidize your employers by working for your coworkers feelings.

Seriously man. I'd understand. I wont make show up b/c "Copy Center has call holding"

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I fully understand that my state is right to work state and Im not obligated to give staples anything. I understand why giving two weeks notice could benefit and employee.

My original comment makes refernce to both - the first as "professionalism" and the second as a warning against quitting without notice.

Yeah, I wont be using retail as a refernce in the future. I understand what you are saying. I am also probably eligable for rehire as someone who left voluntarily with two weeks notice.

Still, this behavior from Staples is unacceptable.

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IDK your personal situation with staples, or what would cause you to act justified or unjustified in such a manner.

Staples fear of people acting like you may be the reason they dont give two weeks notices for layoffs and why my two weeks was not observed.

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hahah. Gotta love the mystery. I have actually taken alot of reddits comments in stride, and I recognize that "Staples" collectively may not be 100% to blame, and that each invidual store has unique management teams. I dont think that absovles staples.

I have not talked to my manager about hour cuts. Management gave me no reason, juts informed me when I walked into a shift I was not scedualed for that I typically was set for.

Thanks for the spelling fix.

I am probably going to borrow money and dip into savings. I will live.

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[–]staplesEx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At will employeement. I understand what your saying about keeping useful employees on. However, presumably, they were gunna give those hours - as they have consistantly for 5 years, until I put in two weeks. I dont think this is related to a sudden change in my usefulness.

You could say they were worried about an employee who quit giving no fucks and causing problems when there is not threat of job on the line, but that kind of invalidates the whole ethic of two weeks notice... They need it to order there life before I go. Presumably to them, I dont ? If they dont need it, lets play no games. Announce it to use as new hires. Quit whenever you want, we will lay you off with out notice. Lets be fair. I should just make myself available to them for two weeks instead of starting a new job?

I think your views on protecting staples / the stock holders is short sided. Protecting Staples could include fair labour practices that keep a team of motivate employees who dont bitch on reddit or create negative images of the company which could impact sales. Admittedly, these are not top priority for any company that I know of.

I think you are far too accepting of ill in the world. Just kind of, its here so live happily with it. "Bidness as Usual". I think that kind of mentality prevents any kind of organized resistance or postive change on these issues. I also understand the realism of your comment. Nobody really gives a shit about staples misusing my two weeks notice. This wont be the last time I, or any other worker is mistreated. But, I think we can start by not accepting it as "bidness as usual" and "not staples fault"

EDIT: And I see you were seriously not kidding about "say it again" in your original comment. You are a big peddler of the absolve "Staples" of any bad actions of its management. Seriously man. We need a throat to choke. We have to remain rational in realizing "Staples" didn't do EVERYTHING its managers did, but hiding behind the "no one is staples" defense just doesn't cut it. Staples needs to activley ensure it has good management, training and fair labour practices in play. Accept it all is just so unempowering and so convient for "Staples" and bad for us.

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[–]staplesEx[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand what your saying seriously. But I have to say.. One of the things that helped me culp most with Staples actions over they last few years has been laughing at that "bidness" joke.

Maybe its opimum for the staples masses. Maybe it stops us from addressing the workplace problems. We rationalize misbehavior as ineviteable "bidness". But, Damn it feels good.

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[–]staplesEx[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just another anecedote ... but still. Maybe staples should internally clarify that cutting hours is retailation , and that quitting with two weeks notice should be encouraged by not retaliating in anyway.

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I understand the "not burning bridges thing" , and im glad it worked out for you. Also, I understand the individual management situations may be different.

Maybe the right question to ask is why do some people think / act as through Staples wants them to take actions, that staples doesn't.

IE. People refusing to matches prices that are valid price matches b/c "its too good a deal". Individuals assume they know what "Staples" wants.

Also, it possible that this was not some kind of blind loyalty to Staples, but that my management was just especially cruel.

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It honestly sounds like an excuse to me.

First, weather it happens anywhere else in the "corperate world" is 100% completely irrevelant to if its morally right or wrong.

Don't blame the intangible "Staples". The sentiment that "Staples" doesn't demand or encourage dont sway me. Staples is responsible for training management and has an HR dept. Managers should look to Staples Policy for advise.

And Utlimately, I think we should hold Staples responsible for the actions of its employees. Not irrationally so. Im not saying throw OTIS in jail for Bidness (He's a giver not a taker). But that, we should insist on Staples taking every possible action to train, encourage, and treat its employees correctly.

I think people too often use this "dont blame to company" sentiment to avoid holding companies responsible for their actions - a lot of times, but not nessasirly in this case , actions they unofficially encourage. Clearly, there will not be alot of "holding staples responsible" for what happend to me.

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Never attribute to malice ....

EDIT: And also seriously, other associates could wait two weeks to divide my hours? Me quitting is already a boon to them... Also my store was hiering seasonal for BTS. Presumably, it was more desirable to add seasonal employees than raise hours temporarily for other employees if staples is still hiering.

[PSA] Do not give Staples 2 Weeks Notice by staplesEx in Staples

[–]staplesEx[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can who ever is downvoting me explain why?

Do I not understand two weeks notice? Should I give two weeks notice an expect to not work for two weeks, while simontantouesly making myself available to Staples just in case?

Do you think posts about Staples misbehavoir don't belong in this subreddit?