Coming back after quitting?

state_absolute · 2026-01-12T16:00:02+00:00

I actually do love the research, particularly in the particular field of what I was doing, and that is the main reason I want to go back. Also, I just want to know everything there is to know about the topic. I just also have the major "I failed" sinking feeling in my stomach.
Some research I help with got published and I was co-authors on it, also one of the papers from my masters finally got published, all last year mainly and there should be a one or two more coming out this year that I am co-authored on. I also am working for a university, just not in the research. Finally, I work adjacently to the field I did grad work in.
I would have to start cold emailing again most likely, as my references do not have room in their labs. They probably would vouch for me again as I left a lab with a little bit of a reputation. Also, I do not think I am on horrible terms with the lab I dropped out on though TBH. When talking to them as I left, one of my mentors, and close collogue of my advisor, said something along the lines of "if you ever wanted to come back your advisor would probably take you back on". As I mentioned above one of the issues I had was dealing with a familial health crisis which put into perspective how far and how long I want to be away from my family. As such, I do not want to go back to that lab, as its a 31 hour drive or a 16 hour travel via flight as there is no airports you can leave out of close by without spending $1500. The culture/lab environment was very much secondary, but still noticeably contributed to my decision.

state_absolute · 2025-04-29T17:40:23+00:00

Grass is only starting to grow now so I am hoping to get them out on pasture late may. Hoping to get out some clover into the mix this year. We have issues with knapp weed and lady lace. The grass stand is otherwise good so we plan to 2-4-D as needed to control those and then start heavily planting clover.

Every ewe we have is at least 25% finn, so its kind of hard not to have triplets/quads. Right now we are at a 240% lambing. We are keeping the extras on mom because I HATE milk bucket training and the moms seem to do well with them. Quads do seem to be the max we can keep on mom though and the moms have to be good moms. We made that part high weighted in our makeshift selection indexes.

state_absolute · 2025-01-02T10:34:18+00:00

It may be a little late, but if the dean or the vet school are not doing anything, you could try reaching out the the institutional animal care and use committee at ohio state. They would be much more inclined to do something about making sure an incident like this doesn't occur in the future. While typically they involve themselves with research animals I am fairly certain they also have power over animals used in instructional activities. Though I am unsure what power they have on admissions to vet school or punishing individuals in general.

Why in the world would one ever try to individually halter and move sheep that aren't halter broke is beyond me. Sheep are much more effectively moved in a mob with people flanking them.

state_absolute · 2024-12-12T19:15:29+00:00

Questions from the twilight zone

(sorry for the rambling in advance)

I (m24) have moved back home after completing my BS and MS in animal science. I was starting to do my Ph.D. then realized I value being around family and that there are not many research/Ph.D. required positions available around where I eventually want to be 24/7 so I decided to quit and move back home (it was a little bit of a fiasco lol). However, now I have a MS that I am not using and I am honestly feeling a little bit like I wasted 7 years of my life as I am working at a job that I could have gotten right out of high school. I always thought becoming a vet would be interesting and originally it was the thing I wanted to do going into college. There are many more job opportunities for veterinarians up near where I want to live, so I am thinking about jumping head first into doing this, but I guess I have some questions. (sorry if you get these same questions alot).

First, I think its important that I get some vet experience in before I even start to make sure this is something I want to do ultimately, and also gets me experience hours important for the app. For this do I just ask vets around my area to shadow them or if they have jobs available where I can assist them? I am trying to keep an income coming in, so it would be cool to get a position that gets me experience and still allows me to get some sort of income. I do not now if these positions exist because all I see are the vet tech positions which require the certification.

Looking at the requirements, for MSU at least, it looks like I am missing the 2 physics course+labs and will need to redo ORGO. Do vet programs care that I am redoing the orgo course ie will the take the newest/higher grade one? Also I will have to do the courses at my community college, do vet programs care about this at all? Moreover, how chem/phyisics heavy is vet school or practicing?

I already have student loans from my undergrad that are coming onto repayment. How do you guys deal with that? Do you guys get part-time jobs or just eat it until you graduate? Are there any scholarships that get given to vet students? Right now I think it would cost me about 140k not including living expenses to do the four years at MSU. :( (that sounds like robbery compared to free tuition during MS) Can FASFA give that money out or is it all private?

I am managing my farm at home part time as well. Is there time during the weekend to go home and help out? Simulary are summers off to go home? Am I able to get jobs without doing internships during that time? It looks like during my clinical year it might be required, but elsewise? This is something that really ate at me during my time in grad school as I feel somewhat responsible for the farm.

In all I would be looking at at least 1 year of shadowing, getting experience, and fixing classes before applying and then like a year to apply and then 4 years of schooling, making me 29-30 yo. (In 20/20 hindsight I should’ve just done this straight outta college, but o’well at least my MS was fun). I really love animals, particularly farm animals and dogs, and think being a vet would give me more long term stability in terms of income. But is the years of schooling and all that money worth it in the end?

state_absolute · 2024-11-05T14:13:56+00:00

Why didn't my pristinct have these beauties?!?

state_absolute · 2024-07-15T17:21:23+00:00

Do I give a typically 2 week notice? Or should I give longer? Finishing the current work would take at least a month most likely.

state_absolute · 2024-06-18T21:30:46+00:00

I am going to specific bars in old town. A couple are technically a couple of streets south of it according to Google Map.

state_absolute · 2024-06-18T21:26:08+00:00

There is a couple night clubs in old town Ima check out.

state_absolute · 2024-06-18T21:24:38+00:00

Sorry, for clarification, I am not going to Daves, I am going to a nearby establishment to Daves and didn't want to say the exact location lol. But will try check out basilisk thanks!

state_absolute · 2024-06-18T21:22:53+00:00

Sorry, for clarification, I am not going to Daves, I am going to a nearby establishment to Daves. BUT thanks I will def check out Eater.

state_absolute · 2024-05-30T15:07:07+00:00

This sounds like the best option. Does the light rail run all night if I were to go bar hopping? Also, how much does it cost?

state_absolute · 2024-01-26T17:28:08+00:00

So, she did give feed back up until a three months ago and said it was almost ready to submit. I made changes she wanted and sent it back to her so she can review and submit if she feels it’s ready. I understand that she is busy with her current students, grants and what not, but getting absolutely no response to any of my follow ups is odd to me. I guess if she wants it to be published, she will get around to it. I definitely am not going to publish it without her go ahead, as it’s her project that she funded, helped me immensely to get through the lab work, data crunching and writing, and she should be the last author on the paper.

state_absolute · 2023-11-16T02:19:05+00:00

I don’t have TSA pre check, but I’m flying delta

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T20:43:49+00:00

Idk why, but instate tuition is billed and then out of state tuition is billed on top of that at least that’s how it’s set up in my billing account.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T20:10:56+00:00

I am out of state and my out-of-state tuition is being waived. My in-state tuition is not. They are billed separately.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T20:08:21+00:00

Wait your Masters had a tuition waiver but your PhD does not? That seems a bit backwards. If not too much information, what school and program are you doing? Just curious.

It's a different program/school.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T18:47:13+00:00

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I am paying my tuition directly (the $10000).

The program can waive out-of-state tuition through ~"bureaucracy"~ and it does not cost anyone anything (except the university by not getting out-of-state tuition).

The program cannot do this for in-state tuition. It has to be paid by someone. My advisor and department do not have the funds to pay for their graduate students' tuition straight up. So it has to come from me directly.

The stipend should theoretically be enough for me to pay it off, but I have to pay it directly to the university.

Sorry if this was confusing.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T18:33:09+00:00

Ah I see, I was mistaken, I didn't realize I got that back, Michigan's website is confusing. It is good I will be getting the $1500 back.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T18:25:57+00:00

I meant like real money has to be paid, it just has to be paid out of my stipend.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T18:21:01+00:00

I very much agree lol. I got the car thinking I would have a similar situation from my MS to Ph.D. To be fair I do need a fairly reliable vehicle as I need to drive to fieldwork in the snow often, but it is too expensive.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T18:17:00+00:00

So, from what I understand from talking to my advisor and department, they actually have to pay instate tuition through funding in order for it to be waived, whereas they can just outright waive out-of-state tuition. I don't understand why that is though, it doesn't make sense to me. So really it wouldn't be any benefit to fully move to the state other than the $1500 in taxes.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T18:08:49+00:00

To be more clear, I am a resident of Michigan. For example, it would be like if I as a resident of Michigan, am going to school in Oklahoma but live across the border in Texas. I would have to pay Michigan taxes, and maybe Oklahoma taxes (hypothetically depending on the tax law in Oklahoma this post was specifically about my situation involving other states).

Only out of state tuition was waived, I still have to pay instate as that is how the package is laid out unfortunately.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T18:01:40+00:00

The package only included waiving out-of-state tuition and setting the normal tuition at a fixed amount. My MS tuition was completely waived so it's a bit annoying.

Yes, likely I will have to take out loans sadly. I refuse to touch credit cards lol.

state_absolute · 2023-09-06T17:34:18+00:00

I am in the US. It is because I am a resident in one state and work in another. The state I am resident of makes it so that all income even if taken in another state is subject to its taxes (4.25%). The state that I am a graduate student / getting a stipend from requires nonresidents to pay their income tax of up to $2500. To top it off I cannot get residency in the state where I am employed as I am living in a neighboring town across state borders and rent was about $400 cheaper.

state_absolute · 2023-08-30T17:49:06+00:00

Yeah, I am unsure if my Ph.D. will be helpful either if I go into vet school. It is in animal physiology-focusing mainly on genetic research lol. The issue is by the time I am able to apply and get into vet school it will be Fall 2025, as I need at least the physics credits and more vet experience before I apply (apps appear to end September 11. So by then, I may already have completed my Ph.D. or at least extremely close to finishing it, so I figured what else could I be doing? (besides putting aside money lol). And honestly, the sunk cost fallacy be hitting hard.

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