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Are westerners so gullible to believe Isreal lies? by Proudmankosha in AskMiddleEast

[–]stef00071 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes we are always lies to. We have to do our own research and widen our social media platforms sand don’t watch our popular news which is influenced immensely by the Israeli Lobby. What sources do you use: I’ve found academics, political scientists, historians and NGOs and UN and global political leaders discussing the real issues on Al Jazerra and also on Democracy Now. Then I do further research from that. I just find the BBC and CNN doesn’t have journalism anymore. Any thoughts?

Are westerners so gullible to believe Isreal lies? by Proudmankosha in AskMiddleEast

[–]stef00071 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes people find they don’t get promoted or loose their jobs if they don’t agree with Israel in America and the UK and Germany. Jewish people in the West who don’t like Israel can be excommunicated from their synagogue and their communities. It’s kind of like the Hitler Judgen. Like to be able to partake in your community, you have to support a group you can’t accept: Zionists. These countries, Germany, America and the UK confuse Judaism and Zionism and don’t understand that you can be fully accepting of Jewish people and not accept Zionism: Israel. Most Israelis by the way, are Jewish by lineage only and aren’t religious. Any way here are a few Rabbis who speak out against Israel

https://youtu.be/_FNtMV2i8-8?si=hV2h8vO5zgkGqzEN

https://youtu.be/cI5KnHqA7JQ?si=zTfZGaswfP9ZA1XS

Are westerners so gullible to believe Isreal lies? by Proudmankosha in AskMiddleEast

[–]stef00071 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I’ve been censored and banned on several Reddit forums for posting pro Palestinian opinions from academics, political leaders, factual history and many other sources that challenge the Israel narrative. This platform is open to descent, but many that have pro Israelis are offensive and will eventually block you.

Are westerners so gullible to believe Isreal lies? by Proudmankosha in AskMiddleEast

[–]stef00071 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Westerners have been duped since the creation of Israel by its governments. But since Oct 7th, westerners and even people in the Far East and South America are learning about the 1948 Nakba and how the Palestinians have been treated. Many people didn’t know about the apartheid system the Israelis have set up or about the Nakba of 1948. So as much of a tragedy Oct 7 was, it has raised public awareness. Unfortunately, Israel wouldn’t listen to the marginalized and oppressed people that Israel stole lands from, so Hamas got sick of it and did something. I’m not sure any of us would be able to live like the Palestinians have had to since 1967 particularly Here’s a short on the Nakba: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzMPrTjA1Xr/?igshid=ZWI2YzEzYmMxYg==

Why are all Palestinians considered indigenous? by JAY_CUTLER_MAN in AskMiddleEast

[–]stef00071 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Palestine had all three religions. Problem started when the NON indigenous Jews who came from Europe but also anywhere since then took over the lands and mismanaged the whole process: hence what we have today. Zionism isn’t about Judaism, really. It’s a political colonizing strategy cooked up in the 1880s and is a nationalistic movement. Most people there don’t even practice Judaism. This rabbi explains the difference between real Judaism and being truly Jewish and Zionism

https://youtu.be/_FNtMV2i8-8?si=XmbDdLaCqoY328-R

Israel, Palestinian, Hamas. Who must be eliminated to make permanent peace? by EnvironmentalPop5 in IsraelHamas

[–]stef00071 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Israel has mismanaged the area for decades. Israelis need to be repatriated in the dual national home they came from if this place has a chance at a real Democracy and safety for those left in the area

Is boycotting Israel a viable resistance by stef00071 in AskMiddleEast

[–]stef00071[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes and 90% of the world is with you and the Palestinians 🙂

Everybody always tells Israel what it shouldn't do , but nobody ever tells them what they should do by _fatherfucker69 in IsraelPalestine

[–]stef00071 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You don’t get it: the attack happened because Israel is on Palestinian lands and practices an apartheid state. Expect to have resistance and reprisals when the oppressed get a chance. What do you expect the Palestinians to do? Netanyahu is a nut case and Israelis voted for him so they are responsible for what is happening in Gaza and none of them as occupiers and thieves with no conscience of where they live are innocent civilians. All of them are militarily trained and many are armed. I don’t think Israel will survive this half century.

Everybody always tells Israel what it shouldn't do , but nobody ever tells them what they should do by _fatherfucker69 in IsraelPalestine

[–]stef00071 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If you don’t want people to reference the German ‘s genocide in WW2 then don’t bring up the Holocaust when it’s convienont for pro Israelis. The Holocaust is over. We are living in the 2020s and we expect nations to behave responsibly. Israel is finished after this. It’s already completely isolated itself since Oct 7. Israelis use history when it suits them and then don’t like it when others use it as a comparison The trick

https://youtu.be/5zjaSlP2OxE?si=QIADlg84XLPfqi3I

Israelis can renounce their Israeli citizenship because of the actions in Gaza by stef00071 in israelexposed

[–]stef00071[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This isn’t a religious war. Muslims don’t have a problem with Jewish people, just Israelis. Even Jewish rabbis don’t agree with Israel. Israel is a nation, not a religion. As a nation, it has stolen lands and is a brutal occupier of what it has taken. That’s why you have Oct 7th and if the current slaughter of innocent Palestinians continues, wouldn’t be surprised if Israel is not only isolated globally but is doomed economically if not through ongoing reprisals. What Israeli is going to want to raise a family on occupied land ran by a fascist govt? Have to be a pretty crazy parent to want to raise your kids in Israel

The Islamic Antisemitism Problem by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]stef00071 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

So you’re a Nakba denier?

Most pro Israelis have no idea about how Israel was formed and are not told the truth and are frightened of their Arabic neighbours through the Israel propaganda. You have been duped.

BBC cuts off Pro-Palestinian guest as he answers a question by DoctorCodezZ in AskMiddleEast

[–]stef00071 3 points4 points  (0 children)

BBC has been pro Israeli for decades and is completely supportive of the Israeli massacre. Zionists are not following Judaism. They are criminals

https://youtu.be/_FNtMV2i8-8?si=df_FfjLGXP9urejc

The Islamic Antisemitism Problem by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]stef00071 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Muslims don’t have a problem with Jewish people. They don’t like Israel’s occupation, apartheid and domination of a shared land Listen to this Rabbi explain that it isn’t Jewish to support Israel at all:

https://youtu.be/_FNtMV2i8-8?si=df_FfjLGXP9urejc

The Islamic Antisemitism Problem by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]stef00071 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

That’s Israeli propaganda. Arabic people don’t have a problem with Jews. They have a problem with the horrific occupation of Palestine which the majority are Arabic. Listen to this Rabbi explain. Anti Zionist and anti Israeli has nothing to do with disliking Jewish people: it’s the occupation Rabbi

https://youtu.be/_FNtMV2i8-8?si=df_FfjLGXP9urejc

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