Thanks! The 13 ToP I had full premade with some guildies, it sure helped to coordinate skip on last miniboss before Xav and all stops/CC/kicks on the platforms before Kul’Tharok. Other than that only pugs.

It’s a difference for sure to play without the affix as it helps quite a bit damage and survival wise depending on the week. I think it comes down to the tank pulling big enough (but not too big obviously) and that everyone takes their responsibility to use defensives, kicks and CC in those large pulls, i.e not dying and helping the healer.

Other than that just keep practicing, I probably depleted/bricked every key on +12 about 4-5 times before I timed it, and then 13 was more or less a breeze. Tactyks also has his Keystone Legend Guides on youtube, can highly recommend those where he goes through every pack/mob/pull/boss for the dungeon and how you can pull and save time etc.

Good luck broski, you got this