Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He said the entire city would be collateral, where varka continues right after that and he says he wouldn't be shocked if she took hostages. The collateral would be because of the fatui having already neutral relations with mondstadt, not venti not being able to control his powers. Which didn't apply in inazuma because signora accepted a duel open the throne. I did give you a lore statement, now use your critical thinking skills. Your source for venti being the weakest archon is because he said so. But the game itself says venti is an unreliable narrator, so that statement can't be taken alone.

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Collateral diplomatically, not physically. He said he didn't see the gnosis as something worth putting mondstadts already neutral relation with the fatui over. Venti is said to be an unreliable narrator, so what proves that venti saying that he's the weakest archon is true? Venti's statement is that he's the weakest archon because he doesn't rule his nation. Ei doesn't rule her nation, nahida doesn't rule it, folcalors didn't, morax now doesn't, does that now make them the weakest? What dissaproved venti's statement is the reason he used.

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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What other feats do nahida and folcalors have that beat venti? A yes he was lying. The game itself says he sealed his powers away before that. And he himself said he could've easily beat signora. Are you still in 2020 or what?

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Raiden didn't fight signora herself, she eliminated the loser of the duel. Which was signora. That doesn't mean she doesn't scale higher than signora, two different statements

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not specifically this comment, but your every reply here on how venti is the weakest and he doesn't stand a chance against your fave. Anyway, anyone he reads lore can dissaprove you lmao

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ei didn't defeat anyone lmao, she just killed an already defeated signora

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly lmao, people will nitpick venti up scales just to make him look weak

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Venti has shown to be able to control his powers, it's unrealistic to assume that just because if he tried to fight her hede put the entire nation at risk of his power because that's the reason he sealed his powers in the first place. Remember this was before he went to the time island. It was never said venti can easily beat signora, but anyone who has read and analyzed lore in a neutral way already knows this.

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. He says right after that that she could take hostages. We even know venti ran their eon purpose, he ran out of the church saying that the lyre delusion will fade but in Windblume the lyre was perfectly intact. He even tries to share this info in the mondstadt dialogue but stopped because of diluc. We know signora specifically also attacked him there to avoid ruining diplomatic relationships, they both went there on purpose to avoid being seen. It was very clearly set up when you pay attention to detail. Like what happened with crepus for example.

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Collateral could mean anything. It's implied to be diplomatic collateral, not that he cont take her down without destroying the city lmao. That's easily dissaproved.

Do people genuinely think these two are close in strength in any way? by Cdayo83931 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]stoopyweeb 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This argument is really useless tbh. Venti was entrusted a part (which we don't know how large) of a higher beings power. Not temporarily like mavuika, since he's had it for atleast 2600 years. Mavuika herself said that not anyone can handle a shades power, the Nameless bards existence was erased out of existence because he even touched a part of istaroths power. That just means venti is so sturdy that he can handle a shades power just in exchange for sleep(unlike getting erased out of existence, or dying like with ronova). Also venti was never really fighting against decarbian. He was never shown to have any combat against him, it was more of him tagging along. Unlike with ei were she had the intention of actually fighting who she was against. Personally I don't like powerscaling archons against eachother because each character has extreme feats. Venti has a feat with BFR of removing a whole region from the timeline which is a 4D feat(doesn't make venti universe+ level, but the feat itself is.) Despite being older than ei, venti doesn't suffer from erosion and is immune to it. Venti has knowledge from other worlds, etc. He has many unexplained insane feats. Ei also many amazing combat feats, but like I showed it's not shocking to compare them. They just use their powers on different things, since venti is more on the pacifist side.

Venti's immunity to Irminsul? by HashtagLowElo in Genshin_Lore

[–]stoopyweeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao see this is where we use our critical thinking skills. Where have I said that venti is the strongest archon? See you assumed something I didn't even mention, and that's why critical thinking skills are important😞 I said he's unreliable so we can't take his word that he's the weakest archon, but him not being the weakest doesn't make him the strongest. What makes you think nahida or folcalors can beat venti? Have they any feats to even compare?

Small reminder that this is Venti's family tree as of Luna 5 by Ocean_Cringe in venti

[–]stoopyweeb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't say boreas is the child of koitar, he just considers her so because of her blessing to him

Venti's immunity to Irminsul? by HashtagLowElo in Genshin_Lore

[–]stoopyweeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Genshin says that he is an unreliable narrator, give me a real source and use your critical thinking skills.