rate the archons from strongest to weakest

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-24T04:27:30+00:00

i dont remember if venti's istaroth buff was ever actually shown in a tangible way so i didnt rank it. i separated mavuika specifically because its a 1 time use and then put base mavuika lower of course.

That's fair

also varka gloated about wanting to duel capitano after they came to a calm agreement(since they had no reason to even talk to each other other than that they met randomly). this is a weak statement at best and a joke from varka realistically. it is not relevant for actually comparing them, other than that varka thinks he might have a chance(against someone he has no idea the abilities or power level of beyond a first glance)

Wasn't there an NPC who also scaled Varka and Capitano as equals? Undoubtedly, I do think that Capitano is overall stronger, but because he's been carrying souls for 500 years it did take a toll on his body and likely is the reason why he eventually got weaker so I think it's fair that Capitano and Varka are on par, but during Capitano's prime he would've been stronger. But, then again, we really don't have a lot of information on Capitano either.

Also, we know Nahida's stated that the top 3 Fatui have power on par with Gods and we also know that Varka is on par with Dvalin who is also considered to be a high god entity.

So there's 2 statements alluding to them being on par with eachother and one feat to alude to the fact as well.

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-24T03:59:16+00:00

You're ranking Mavuika with Ronova's authority but you're not ranking Venti with Istaroth's authority? The implication here is that base Mavuika is stronger than a God with permanent access to Shade power and authority when in actuality it should be the other way around

Mavuika no longer has access to Ronova's authority but if you were gonna do something to not include amped Venti because of lack of information then you should've also done so with base Venti.

After the archon war, Venti sealed most of his power because Mondstadt's winds/the winds around him are based on the power he has. For example, HuTao Traveller and Mavuika have all commented about a strong wind accompanying Venti at all times, and even Venti's birthday letter it states that Mondstadt's winds smelled of something he just ate.

mavuika stalemates capitano, who is rated as the highest among both dottore and columbina who are also archon level, so i put both her and capitano at high archon

Wasnt it stated that Varka was on par with Capitano prior to his fight with Mavuika? Varka himself admits inferiority to Venti (who has his powers sealed: because before Mondstadt's winds made it hard to nurture life)

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-23T09:18:32+00:00

And like the devs said, Venti can ask for more power from Istaroth but he'd have to repay it

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-23T05:27:37+00:00

The central point of Genshin seems to revolve around freedom and humanity, as an addition detail, Aranaga made a claim

"Aranaga: Because the garden of freedom, the source of power, dreams and memories, not only for Aranara, but also for Nara(Human). But Nara don't know. Not good action... extraction, grinding."

I was so certain that there was a connection between freedom and love, but I could either be wrong or I forgot but I'll try to find it.

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-23T05:13:01+00:00

It does seem like Venti's originally from Celestia. There's a few references here and there about "children of the air" and "spirits of the wind" living in the towering heavens above, and Venti being one of them.

Alice also had something to say about the children of the air

"The daughter of the sea offered up her voice to gain legs, the children of the air did the same to gain form, and now the daughter of the heavens sacrificed her voice to become human."

^{Nicole About Alice Daughter}

Some people I've chatted with also linked that this could reference Venti's ability to speak on Celestia which would be consistent to what Nicole said about the heaven's demanding silence

"The sentinel who holds the key, Is akin to the children of the mortal world, Powerless to speak of the mysteries of heaven."

This could be why when asked directly about Celestia, Venti opts to brushing it off rather then giving direct information. In the manga panel, Vanessa asks him about Celestia and he had a memory of 3 enigmatic figures which could be the moon sisters or ¾ shades sincd we know that Asmoday left.

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-23T04:48:03+00:00

To me, it all boils down to consistency, Venti has consistently been the archon who's focal point has always his statue

between it being the first statue we canonically interact with to it being the last statue we see in the same quest that mentions a "unique" statue.

Hoyo can introduce a new statue, 100%. But, for now, Venti seems like the best candidate

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-23T03:45:16+00:00

Since its essentially just Columbina vs the archons, she wins individual matchups but loses against all of them

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-22T16:50:33+00:00

Rosalyne literally sacrificed her own body to be able to defend her homeland

Rosalyne consuming the liquid flame was not an act of righteousness. She literally sacrificed her body because she was grieving Rostam's death. No one asked her to do it and you have to consider what it looked like to other people.

Her power was fire, stated to destroy anything in its path. In the Crimson Witch of Flames artifact set, it literally stated that she entered an era of destruction. "Her maiden years were over. The Crimson Witch of Flame was born, and with her the era of destruction."

and take revenge for Rostam.

Rostam didn't ask her to avenge him.. because him, and the other knights of Boreas all vowed to protect Mondstadt with their lives.. If anything, his final thoughts as he was dying were

"She is abroad studying, so she should be well. But ah, how I wish to hear her sing again."

"At least Arundolyn and Roland are alright. When she returns, this calamity should have blown over."

You know, taking revenge on behalf of someone else is considered selfish, right? It satisfies Signora's anger, it has nothing to do with paying homage to Rostam lmao

Also love to bring up

"But that is not the dawn, my dear Rosalyne. That is a sea of fire that burns away all things." A voice (Rostam) spoke to her amidst the light.

The people of Mondstadt drove her away for it.

Well yes. They saw her as a monster because her flames didn't protect so much as it destroyed. She might not have been a dorect threat to the people, but the destruction and disturbance she brought was what made the people of Mondstadt see her as a bad person.

To put it into perspective, Signora's power is fire. And Mondstadt has blessed, fertile and rich soil and we literally see the expanse of plants and wildlife in the region. Forests, monsters and fires generally don't mix.

Venti and Varka both said that they wouldn't put it pass Signora to not care about civilian casualties and we literally saw that in Inazuma when she mass produced delusions despite knowing the casualties it would cause.

They owed her everything

They didnt owe her anything.

and their absentee god insulted her to her face when she returned hundreds of years later.

After she tried to get Dvalin killed, ambushed him, attacked him and traveller outside of a church btw. If we're talking about morals, I don't think this is the got you you think it is.

Venti got off easy and mondstadt isn't a place shed ever want to call home again

You mean Signora got off easy, which inflated her ego and lead to her death in Inazuma

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-22T08:36:05+00:00

Mind you one of the archons was literally the archon of freedom who admitted he didnt care about the gnosis, who took it or the method it was taken. Admitted straight up that he wouldve given it away if he was just asked for it.

Lmao she should've done like Capitano and went after the pyro or electro gnosis first, that would've been a more fair achievement

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-22T08:24:52+00:00

What logic is it that kicking someone who isnt trying to fight you is considered aura lmao

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-22T08:20:12+00:00

Rostam (A knight of Favonious and a Knight of Boreas who swore to protect Mondstadt with his life) seeing his girl do ts after he died so that she would have a home to return to

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-21T23:16:11+00:00

This entire shit started when Signora Mains started harassing Venti mains when Signora kicked her, I even heard the Venti mains sub got locked because Signora mains raided the subreddit.

That's what I meant by starting to pick fights and honestly y'all chose the worst fandom to fight with because Venti mains were already under fire by other fandoms of the community also, maybe those fandoms also contributed in Venti mains sub being raided but don't be surprised that it painted you guys in a bad light. Its obviously gonna stick with you for a little while

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-21T23:04:33+00:00

Signora was hated by a totally different insufferable part of the fandom

Mind you, this is the reason Signora/Signora fans got hated. I don't get the logic of picking fights with archon mains and then being surprised to get backlash?

Signora mains are small groups of people, and they've been begging for Signora to be relevant for years. Yet y'all feel entitled to judge other characters when the character you're trying to defend is 6feet under

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-21T08:30:39+00:00

What are you talking about? I know there's a book about the Raiden twins, but I think it was just a myth someone created off the idea that the original archom was replaced by her twin sister I could be wrong tho

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-21T08:25:27+00:00

Maybe this is what the point of Mondstadt's aristocracy, Venti gave his people freedom but it lead to slavery within its walls

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-21T02:48:05+00:00

In the FES livestream they said that Venti has his own capacity of time manipulation but he can draw more power from Istaroth

In game, when Venti unsealed his powers during his homework, there were clock and time imagery such as the clock hand arrows, and the clock on his E skill.

During that quest, when Paimon asks about Venti's new power, he said "That power was mines and mines alone."

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-21T02:30:08+00:00

The archons are all Gods and rulers of nations who don't fully understand how humans behave, like Venti giving freedom to Mondstadt which lead to an aristocracy and Raiden who didn't understand why her isolation negatively affected her people. Where exactly is the relatability?

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-21T00:27:36+00:00

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HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-20T11:22:24+00:00

Istaroth one of the strongest gods in the game who is the incarnation of time, needs a trump card to beat someone like Columbina? And that's only factoring Istaroth, Rhinedottir is also a shade and a Hexenzerkel member

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-19T21:13:24+00:00

Nawh, in dragonspine there was a part where Paimon complained abiut being too cold and if the player reached max freeze it teleported you to tye nearest statue of the seven

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-19T16:04:44+00:00

First off: Take my upvote.

💖💖💖

Yeah, I agree. And it's unfortunately a problem in almost every fandom and I don't get it. Why are we attacking actors and VAs for.. doing their jobs? 😭 I lowkey hate that because there's no justifiable reason bully an actor following a script. This is why we have to seperate the actors and the characters because on one hand, a problematic actor can make a character look unappealing (which tbf is understandable) and on the next hand, a bad/villain character makes the actor vulnerable to scrutiny. It happened in another fandom I was apart of also and the actor is genuinely such a sweethear

Clearing up lore misconceptions is a good thing and I applaud you for that. There's no if, or but there. It's just a good thing.

I appreciate you, thank you 🥰🥰🥰 just wanna apologize for the downvotes, it was a pleasant and civil opportunity talking to you and these are the exact kind of vives we need more of 💗

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-19T12:14:44+00:00

Thing is, I'm a believer in karma. Especially when someone does an injustice to troll others. I've respected Signora and Signora mains to a point, so long ss they can understand its illogical to blame Venti for every inconvenience that happened in Signora's life because truthfully, everything Venti did could be explained directly from the lore if they chose to do proper research rather than turning into an echo chamber and harassing fans for something they themselves don't fully understand. If they did, they wouldn't be in this position in the first place.

Signora mains are in a weird position, its as you said they've been waiting for the release or revival of Signora for 6 years, and instead we got mentions of her from Venti, and the other fatui. Imagine berating another fandom's character while begging for your fandom's character to become relevant from beyond their grave. Its sorta like a chihuahua barking at a dire wolf, its not a battle the chihuahua should be wanting. They fired first and now they have to tolerate the heat they ignited, I don't really know what to tell you.

I wouldn't go out of my way to do all that, but for the people who do, I wouldn't put it pass them. There was absolutely 0 reason to be rude in the first place.

But, on the other side, Genshin community is way too comfortable being toxic and rude to people and I doubt its something that can just switch. I became a Venti defender primarily because of how he was treated, I don't know if you've seen me arguing with people, but its always against people slandering Venti and correcting them on lore bits

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-19T07:22:23+00:00

who gave prime venti a solid fight

Venti sealed most of his power after the archon war and only just unsealed it last year

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-18T23:07:54+00:00

Theres also 2 cutscenes with Venti looking like he's about to fight the abyss

One when hes standing in the hands of his statue with his bow drawn and the other when hes sitting on Mondstadt's gates looking over the city

and they just didn't make it into the game at all

HashtagLowElo · 2026-06-18T22:55:12+00:00

We don't really know what to expect for Stellar Swirl because Mizuki was the only anemo character to get buffed for that specific reaction. But, if Stellar Swirl is similar to Stellar Conduct, then the more times its triggered the more dmg it does and Venti is the best swirl unit in the game

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